Sci-Fi Fringe Thread - Part 2

[Clu]

due to episode 19 then olivia is dead. because she was not seen at all even in the amber. the way its talking is that bell had other plans to make his dream come true, so much that he was with them when they ambered themselves.

 

[Asgard]

So, when Bell rung his bell, he teleported to the other universe right?

Looks like Bell was working with the Observers to annihilate the human race so they could take over.

 

[wiegeabo]

So, when Bell rung his bell, he teleported to the other universe right?

Looks like Bell was working with the Observers to annihilate the human race so they could take over.

No, Bell would have wiped the Observers out with the new universe.

 

[The Apocalypse]

Come on! It was obvious she wasn't going to die, Astrid could, but not Olivia. Season 4 wasn't the best, but it seems Season 5 will be more consistent since it will have no fillers.

I know, I know I get really into finales and tend not to think rationally until it's over.

 

[wiegeabo]

I didn't think it was obvious. Not until Walter said they could save her, then I remembered the cortexiphan.

But for a short time, since this was originally planned as a possible series finale, and we never saw her ambered in the future.

So I thought maybe they had killed her. And then we'd get Pholivia next season when they reopened the Bridge, at least until they figured out some clever way to bring Olivia back.

 

[Clu]

one thing i liked also was how walter had to slap peter back into reality because at that moment peter hated walter for what he did.

 

[Mikelus]

None of the main cast was going to die due to Episode 19

Yes, unless they change that future, you never know with Fringe. t:

 

[KALEL114]

true, when I first saw Etta with the bullet around her neck, I automatically went back to season 3 which had that animated episode where Peter questions Olivia abot that guy in the blimp and she said thats the guy who is going to kill her, perhaps the bullet is from there?

Mr. X from that episode, is William Bell.

Especially because the "X Man" who was supposed to kill her — as we saw in last season's trippy animation episode — wasn't very obvious.
Wyman: Basically, when Walter was going through the Nanites.From that episode when she was in William's head, she said, "I know that's the man who's going to kill me." She had a feeling that when she was in William Bell's head, that there was a man and it manifested itself as a character in William Bell's head in the comic that they're experiencing and it had that emblem on it.
Then, ultimately, in this episode, you saw in the in the Nanites they had the emblem on it. When Walter recognized that that was William Bell's creation by that mark, because that was the mark that William used to mark things with. So really, in a sense, it was William Bell who killed Olivia. You could argue, saying when she came out of William Bell's head, she said, "That's the man who's going to kill me," it was actually William Bell.

http://www.tvguide.com/News/Fringe-Postmortem-Season5-Spoilers-1047429.aspx

 

[DyeLorean]

Great finale. It could also have worked as a series finale, to be honest. I really liked it. Some freaky classic Fringe moment with Charlotte eyes there (oh sorry, Jessica was it?) and great character moments with Peter and Walter.

 

[Asgard]

No, Bell would have wiped the Observers out with the new universe.

If thats true, then who helped Bell with that rune? Or maybe hes that brilliant to come up with something like that.

 

[Clu]

If thats true, then who helped Bell with that rune? Or maybe hes that brilliant to come up with something like that.

I think he predicted that they would show up and try to stop him. but someone had to help him because even September said the tech is far above the level it should be at.

 

[kane9321]

Sweet dreams.

Spoiler

Dammit Terry....can't sleep

 

[Dr Lee]

the eyeball scene was insanely freaky

 

[Donut]

Here is my Extended Fringe Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-ghbAUHI3k

 

[dru-zod2501]

So... The idea of the rogue Observer clan is still on the table? Lately I've been wondering if maybe they're all bad (minus September) and this was part of their plan since the very beginning

 

[Kaleb]

So... The idea of the rogue Observer clan is still on the table? Lately I've been wondering if maybe they're all bad (minus September) and this was part of their plan since the very beginning

They hinted at them been bad since season 2 episode called ''fracture''

RAYMOND GORDON: (steadfast) ...meanwhile, we go through our lives unaware. The enemy is among us and nobody's doing anything about it. We don't have any idea the end is coming. So we had to take matters into our own hands. We had to send them a message.

BROYLES: What was in the briefcase?

RAYMOND GORDON: They told you I was crazy, didn't they? The Pentagon. They said I'd had a psychiatric break. I told them what I'm telling you. That they are here. Collecting data. Making observations. That's what's in the briefcase. They've been planning for war. And they've been passing the information via courier right under our noses.

(as the interview continues, a young man in a long dark coat walks into a diner and delivers a briefcase to a seated man, then leaves)

BROYLES: Who are 'they'?

RAYMOND GORDON: We don't know who they are. But I can tell you what they want. They want to exterminate us.

(the man seated in the diner pours an entire container of black pepper over his roast beef and jalapeno sandwich, then opens the briefcase he received from the courier)

RAYMOND GORDON: So they're studying us... our culture, our technology, our science... and they plan to use it against us. One way or another. We'll find out who they are. But by then, I suppose it won't really matter.

(The Observer pulls images out of the briefcase. High-tech surveillance images of one Walter Bishop)

RAYMOND GORDON: Because whatever's in those cases is gonna destroy us all.

 

[elgaz]

I thought it was a pretty good finale. Good acting from all concerned. I have to admit, I was shocked when Walter shot Olivia in the head - when we saw him eyeing the gun I had no doubt he would use it, but I thought he would shoot Bell.

Bell's plan was pretty well thought out, but I wasn't sure about his motivations. He didn't seem anything like the William Bell we'd encountered before.

 

[Donut]

He didn't seem anything like the William Bell we'd encountered before.

Since this is a new timeline. This is not the same William Bell. That sacrificed himself a couple of seasons ago

 

[elgaz]

Oh I know, but he seems quite different as a character. Maybe not out and out evil, but certainly not good. Whereas a number of the other characters didn't change that much. I wonder if they'll ever elaborate on what happened differently in his life in this timeline (the cancer? That can't be it) which made him think it was ok to wipe out 2 universes.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Oh I know, but he seems quite different as a character. Maybe not out and out evil, but certainly not good. Whereas a number of the other characters didn't change that much. I wonder if they'll ever elaborate on what happened differently in his life in this timeline (the cancer? That can't be it) which made him think it was ok to wipe out 2 universes.

I'm wondering if Bell infused himself with some of Walter's missing brain matter. That would explain both his state of mind and his extra genius (not that he needs an explanation there).

 

[wiegeabo]

I'm wondering if Bell infused himself with some of Walter's missing brain matter. That would explain both his state of mind and his extra genius (not that he needs an explanation there).

Not if 2036 is still in play. They had all the pieces from Walter's brain.

 

[carrrnuttt]

Not if 2036 is still in play. They had all the pieces from Walter's brain.

True, but I'm not suggesting that he implanted the whole thing.

I'm theorizing that Bell might have used some of Walter's cells to "inspire" his own brain. If only a few cells are used, there will still be plenty left.

 

[Sawyer]

Seth Gabel Not Returning as Series Regular

Dawww...

 

[KALEL114]

That sucks, but I kind of figured it would happen. Hope he lives happily ever after with Fauxlivia.

 

[Clu]

makes sense, bridge is closed cant have him as a regular. like the interview says they can always have him as a guest star. I say final episode shows everyone's life, altolivia looking up at a rainbow with now husband lincon and peter with daughter and real olivia with walter in tow.