G.I. Joe: How would you have done it?

I'm not a fan of any relationship **** to begin with be it Scarlett/Snake Eyes or Ripcord/Heavy Duty....I remember reading something in the comics about Cobra Commander was a car salesman or something like that before forming COBRA
 
I'm not a fan of any relationship **** to begin with be it Scarlett/Snake Eyes or Ripcord/Heavy Duty....I remember reading something in the comics about Cobra Commander was a car salesman or something like that before forming COBRA

Wait, Ripcord were into Heavy Duty? :oldrazz:
 
Wait, Ripcord were into Heavy Duty? :oldrazz:

yes...totally...it'll be on the directors cut...hot man love

I probably would have gone with COBRA already established, though I don't hate that they are introducing M.A.R.S. as the frontman, as most people didn't know that Destro was essentially a hired gun supplying weapons to COBRA....I hope the Joe quarters is listed as "undisclosed location" but in the books and series it moved from place to place...not sure if Sigma Six even had a base...I know the current comics have it under Mt. Rushmore
 
The Joes:

Duke - Sam Worthington.
Stalker - Jamie Foxx.
Scarlett - Rachel Nichols.
Snake-Eyes - Ray Park.
Roadblock - Terry Crews.
Breaker - Saiid Taghmaoui.
Shipwreck - Gerard Butler.
Cover Girl - Katheryne Winnick.
General Hawk - Dennis Quaid.

The Cobras:

Cobra Commander - Lawrence Fishburne (Voice).
Baroness - Sienna Miller.
Storm Shadow - Tony Jaa.
Zartan - David Murray.
Firefly - Scott Adkins.
Destro - Jason Issacs.
 
but Cobra Commander has a raspy voice....why go the completely opposite route...a voice which has been raspy/gravelly in 3 animated series and various DTVs??
 
I was just asking the reasoning behind that....I kept hearing all this applause for Worthington and then I saw Terminator, he was very meh in that for all the love fans were throwing his way

for all the **** that Sigma Six gets, whoever did Cobra Commanders voice did ok...I would have just put a guy in a suit and had a dedicated voice actor do it
 
Worthington was rumored for Duke before Tatum was chosen (Him and Chris Evans). I think he fits better with my story.

I'd use the "Resolute" Cobra Commander voice actor then.
 
that works too...I liked that he got locked in his little panic room/escape pod thingie
 
No, it's supposed to be a dark gritty R-rated war drama where the soldiers wear brightly colored costumes (except for one, who wears a World War 2 uniform). At least, that's what some people say.
Heh.

and no fun....dark, gritty, serious socio-political commentary, you should be damn near frightened watching this movie and suspicious of your neighbors that they are deep cover COBRA operatives

Zany, brightly colored COBRA operatives?

It can be fun. But why couldn't it be true to the source material?

You can say that about any comic book adaption ever made, including the good ones. It's a tired argument. It could have been truer to the source material. It isn't. It's what happens when people who want to create get involved in a project.

I'm pretty sure Ripcord isn't Stalker or another "appropriately black" character, not because the filmmakers are stupid, but because the fillmmakers wanted to use Ripcord, period, and some specific elements and ideas from his character, I.E, flying, parachuting, etc. Probably to complete the "air" portion of the "fighting for freedom" angle. "Ripcord" fits that role pretty well, I'd say. While it's always nice to see faithful renditions, I could care less that he's a black American or a British white guy with red hair in the movie.

The SILLY costumes

You've just got to be kidding me. The Joes are now wearing armor, which is A, what military teams tend to wear, especially special ops, and B, makes perfect sense VS just fatigues. I know I for one will miss Destro's giant red neckliner, Zartan's random tatoos, and...oh, say, all this:

http://api.ning.com/files/vRkZWrA4j...1wnLsNnIr845p9seP1M9-dIlfrMX3s/GI_Joe_001.jpg

The costume elements that should have stayed intact, for the most part, seem to have, in some fashion, been maintained.

In particular, The Baroness, Storm Shadow, and Snake Eyes, and by the end of the film, Destro, look pretty recognizeably like their comic book and cartoon counterparts.

- The Cartoonish Weaponry (that missle filled with green goo just looks like it was straight off the TMNT cartoons... can you say OOZE?)

Over the top weapons are a staple of the GI JOE mythology.

What's the issue now, that the ooze the nanotech is floating in is green?

Who cares?

- The bad casting

Debatable, frankly, as we haven't seen the performances. Just because they didn't cast A listers, or even B listers, doesn't mean the cast won't be good in their respective roles. I have a pretty decent amount of respect for Dennis Quaid, Christopher Eccleston, Joseph Gordon Levitt and Ray Park as actors, and I know Wayans is capable of good acting. I'm told Tatum is as well, though I have not seen much of his work. Obviously someone thought he could play a soldier. So far, Scarlett looks to be appropriately portrayed as well, near as I can tell.

- The Soap Opera backstory of the characters (there's a love story between Baroness & Duke?)

Yeah. Because the comics and shows were never "soap opera" in the least. Really? This is your concern?

It's no worse than Cobra Commander happening to run across Snake Eyes, or any of the other "covenient" connections in GI JOE lore or any other comic book or comic adaption.

At least the soap opera is MILITARY and SCIENTIFIC in nature, and not "used car whacko"

Much of Cobra Commander's early origins, such as his birth name and childhood, are unrevealed. By all appearances he was born an American citizen sometime in the mid-twentieth century, his only known relative an older brother named Dan to which he had a strong attachment. Dan enlisted in the military during the Vietnam War and volunteered for repeated tours in order to spare his younger sibling from being drafted (federal policy being that only one sibling per family could serve in combat). During this time, the man who would become Cobra Commander worked as a used car salesman struggling to keep his business afloat. When Dan returned from Vietnam, he displayed deep psychological trauma caused by his war experiences, and took to drinking heavily and engaging in self-destructive behavior, especially reckless driving. This ended tragically when Dan crashed head-on into another car, killing himself and a family of three. Devastated by the loss of his brother, the future Cobra Commander refused to see any responsibility on the part of Dan for the accident (and by extension, any guilt for himself for being the ultimate cause of Dan's condition). He perversely blamed the family in the other car and their only survivor, another war veteran who the family had been traveling to the airport to pick-up when they were killed by Dan. Becoming obsessed with this soldier, the young Cobra Commander formed elaborate revenge schemes against him.

Cobra Commander managed to track the former soldier to Japan, where he was training to become a member of the Arashikage ninja clan. The Commander approached the mercenary Firefly for the job, but Firefly realized he was no match for the target and instead referenced Cobra Commander to another assassin, Zartan, who took the job and infiltrated the clan. Zartan retrieved a personal arrow shot by Storm Shadow to serve as the murder weapon and conceal his involvement. Forced to shoot blind, Zartan used a sound amplification scope to target his victim's distinctive heartbeat. However, at that moment the soldier was meeting with Storm Shadow's uncle, the Hard Master, who was demonstrating a secret technique to mimic the soldier's distinctive heartbeat. As both the true target and the Hard Master were obscured from Zartan's vision, the Hard Master was mistakenly stricken and killed by the arrow. Though Storm Shadow saw Zartan fleeing the scene, no one else did. Storm Shadow was blamed for the murder and fled in search of the killer. The soldier eventually left the ninja clan to live in seclusion in the Sierra Nevada mountains, until enticed to return to service on the G.I. Joe team as Snake-Eyes.

Cobra Commander attempted to resume his domestic life, returning to his wife and newborn son Billy. However, when his wife found out what had happened in Japan, she threatened to go to the authorities. Denouncing her perceived betrayal, Cobra Commander abandoned his wife and took Billy with him. Living on the road and earning a living by increasingly illicit scams and con jobs, the soon-to-be Commander became egotistical yet paranoid, blaming all his problems on what he perceived as the corrupt American system that always crushed the little guy, and began to harbor great ambitions of wreaking vengeance upon it. He traveled across America with Billy, seeking out people who shared his desire to topple big business and the government, using money earned from pyramid schemes to attract followers. It was during these early meetings that he first began wearing a blue hood to mask his civilian identity.


ofcourse the Power Ranger Suits

You mean the black, helmetless, plated armor? Here's the thing: the Power Rangers tend to wear multicolored spandex with sculpted dinosaur helmets. I am convinced that "Power Rangers" is what unclever people have come up with to describe all armor, because they have either never seen the Power Rangers, aside from the movie, and because some idiot dubbed the Green Goblin armor "Power Ranger" in appearance during SPIDER-MAN's production.
Dont get me started on the Headquarters that Cobra rented from the Gungans (can you read Jar-Jar?)

So, you saw someone else make a STAR WARS reference in their review and parroted it?

That aside, let's take a look at the respective locales, shall we?

http://bastien641.free.fr/Naboo gungan city.jpg

Gunga City consists of giant bubbles with glowing lights inside.

http://www.thinklynsen.com/imagesgijoe/Picture4.jpg

MARS/COBRA's facility consists of a military complex. Towers.

The similarities, even in how the locations are laid out, are pretty vague.

Nevermind that Cobra has had underwater bases, since what, issue #7 or so of A REAL AMERICAN HERO?

- Also there's the press release interviews where the actors EMPHASIZE that this is "not a war movie" I bet we'll also see a kind of action 80s cartoon style where despite all the gunfights, nobody really gets killed. There's a 50-50 possibility that we will never EVER even get to see Duke KILL somebody with a firearm!

Nope. People die. Right off the bat. In fact,
some key characters to the mythos are wounded/killed.
 
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yes...totally...it'll be on the directors cut...hot man love

I probably would have gone with COBRA already established, though I don't hate that they are introducing M.A.R.S. as the frontman, as most people didn't know that Destro was essentially a hired gun supplying weapons to COBRA....I hope the Joe quarters is listed as "undisclosed location" but in the books and series it moved from place to place...not sure if Sigma Six even had a base...I know the current comics have it under Mt. Rushmore

Ripcord bisexual? Ewwww
 
The Spirit was pretty bad...Eva Mendes and Scarlett softened the blow, but still sucked...the worst movie in history is Hudson Hawk, its going to take a lot for a movie to beat that
 
The Spirit was pretty bad...Eva Mendes and Scarlett softened the blow, but still sucked...the worst movie in history is Hudson Hawk, its going to take a lot for a movie to beat that

Why do so many people hate on Hudson Hawk?!? :cmad:
 
I'm no writer but I've would've done it this way:

- more accurate toy/comic/cartoon costumes but done in a realistic fashion
- hire another actor for Duke and Cobra Commander
- remove Snake Eyes' rubber lips
- make the story more espionage like the Bourne Identity movies
- use hi-tech weaponry in limited use and only when story plot calls for it
- pair down the Joe team to 5 or 6 members leaving new members for sequels
- make it under 2 hours, you don't want your audience restless
 
I remember reading something in the comics about Cobra Commander was a car salesman or something like that before forming COBRA
Funny as it sounds that's true he even had that 70's mustache, the story goes like this CC was fed up with the "system" they were putting the little man down and so he goes and forms a pyramid scheme first in small towns until it grows even bigger that the U.S. starts to take notice.

Around this time CC gathers more followers, starts wearing a blue hood and calls his group COBRA as a metaphor that he can ensnare the world in his grip like a....you guessed it....a cobra.
 
I would have added this line:

Baroness: (in thick russkie accent) Commander! Is that a Cobra in your pants or are you just happy to see me?
 
You know with Marlon Wayans comedic ability can we maybe expect a funny training montage ala Police Acedemy?
 
Well they are trained soldiers being selected for an elite unit, so I guess any "training" would just involve weapons and equipment
 
But I'm talking about funny antics like their rifles running out of bullets, the missiles on jets not working properly, the tank treads falling off, give me the funny or better yet they should of just cast Steve Guttenburg and Bubba Smith.
 
I would have put in this beast:

meandog.jpg


My most favorite Joe vehicle...
 

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