Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Looking forward to that disposable plot!

I know, what the ****? Why would he say something so stupid? If everyone at Fox thinks the way Kinberg does then they learned nothing from Deadpool's success.

 

[squeekness]

Just make Gambit a double agent for Sinister who infiltrates the X-Men. But ends up joining the team and finds a home

They should, it's not that far from what happened in the comics.

 

[Sithborg]

Personally I feel that the two guilds offer plenty for stories. Comic accurate stories, probably not. But I would like the first film to be more centered around that then the X-men.

 

[BlackFox]

Really hope they can finally get this off the ground this year, the more strong solo films the better for the X-Verse. It seems like this has a lot harder hill to climb than Deadpool to be accepted as that at least had everyone behind Reynolds in the role but I really want this to succeed as Gambit has always been a fave character and offers something a bit different to the other X-Men.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Personally I feel that the two guilds offer plenty for stories. Comic accurate stories, probably not. But I would like the first film to be more centered around that then the X-men.

I'd probably go with the Guilds, but you still need something to draw it into the regular world. I feel Gambit would be a good addition to an X-Force movie, so you'd want a character that ties them to the greater world.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I'd probably go with the Guilds, but you still need something to draw it into the regular world. I feel Gambit would be a good addition to an X-Force movie, so you'd want a character that ties them to the greater world.

The guild storyline can justify a gambit solo film.i don't know if it justifys them
poentally doing a trilogy on gambit solo if this film is success but solo film
is fine.

based on what Kinberg said on apocalypse post credit scene

Spoiler

which teases sinister with essex corp tease

it 's very possable sinister
is one funding the heist that gambit film is suspose to have In it.and the lengthy rewrites could involve putting Sinister in film.

I think it's very likely the odds are much greater of gambit In X-force after his solo film if fox goes there after deadpool sequel than it is in modern day
X-men film.

 

[Logan0327]

I know, what the ****? Why would he say something so stupid? If everyone at Fox thinks the way Kinberg does then they learned nothing from Deadpool's success.

plot had nothing to do with deadpool's success it was character,tone,relationships and execution no one came out and said wow that was a great storyline lol

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

plot had nothing to do with deadpool's success it was character,tone,relationships and execution no one came out and said wow that was a great storyline lol

What Kinberg said was idiotic. There is no defense for it.

 

[Sithborg]

It almost sounds like someone was jealous...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

As if Fantastic Four had a good plot. Fantastic Four is across the board garbage.

I agree that Fox (and WB) should focus more on actually making their ****ing superheroes likable but Kinberg should have stopped there. Maybe you are right Sithborg, maybe Kinberg was throwing shade at Deadpool.

 

[Sithborg]

My impression about Kinberg is that he likes being the "face" of franchise. He runs his mouth, trying to seem a key player in both X-men and Star Wars. So, now we have the hot new players of the Deadpool creative team, who I'm sure Fox is treating them a bit more nicely than he is after "the debacle".

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My impression about Kinberg is that he likes being the "face" of franchise. He runs his mouth, trying to seem a key player in both X-men and Star Wars. So, now we have the hot new players of the Deadpool creative team, who I'm sure Fox is treating them a bit more nicely than he is after "the debacle".

Surely Disney is side eying him after having to fire Trank from a Star Wars spin-off. Has to be especially difficult for someone whom has such a giant ego to see everything falling apart.

 

[Mad Ones]

What was the plot of Deadpool again?

Deadpool is somewhat exceptional. The character sort of calls for a conventional plot, both for the meta-humor and to avoid alienating audiences.

I think plot for Gambit is more important. It needs a good hook, especially because Gambit's "voice" really only works when he's interacting with the X-men and can maintain some mystery.

Comic book movies do suffer from bad plots. AoU is one of them.

 

[Smilodon]

I don't think Kinberg was throwing shade at Deadpool at all. What he said was silly, but I don't think there was any malicious intent in it. I think he just admits that Deadpool did things right.

 

[katie_girl09]

Seriously, guys. He made his comments. Whether you think they were dumb or not - fine, whatever. But what I don't understand is how you're trying to say they are shade against Deadpool. If anything he praises that movie in the interview. And no, the Deadpool movie is not perfect or above reproach so even if he was shading a bit who the hell cares?

I think plot for Gambit is more important. It needs a good hook, especially because Gambit's "voice" really only works when he's interacting with the X-men and can maintain some mystery.

Can you elaborate?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Nobody said that Deadpool was above criticism, plenty of people have pointed out it's flaws but it's an infinitely better film than Fan4stick and was infinitely more successful at the box office. If you are responsible for Fan4stick then you have no right to shade Deadpool.

 

[Mad Ones]

Can you elaborate?

Gambit works best as a supporting character, especially when he's interacting with character like Rogue and Wolverine. Take that away and he's a much less appealing character. He was pretty popular early too because he was mysterious, but a solo movie won't play that up because he's the protagonist. So if Gambit won't have some of the things that make his voice so popular the movie is going to need an interesting plot.

 

[x-er]

Gambit works best as a supporting character, especially when he's interacting with character like Rogue and Wolverine. Take that away and he's a much less appealing character. He was pretty popular early too because he was mysterious, but a solo movie won't play that up because he's the protagonist. So if Gambit won't have some of the things that make his voice so popular the movie is going to need an interesting plot.

I'd agree, except I always saw someone like Johnny Depp playing him, à la Captain Sparrow.

 

[Mad Ones]

It will certainly take a degree of creativity to get him to work.

Deadpool was almost easy. The studio made it as difficult as possible, but the material is all there in the comics and the character's sense of humour was just waiting to be translated into a movie. Gambit isn't that easy.

 

[CaptainWagner]

Gambit is certainly going to need a better plot than Deadpool, which was carried mostly on the back of its main character. But there's plenty of material for a great film.

 

[Neptune]

Just make Gambit a double agent for Sinister who infiltrates the X-Men. But ends up joining the team and finds a home

AMEN! I don't know why they are forcing this solo movie into existence. Gambit is way more awesome when he interacts with all the X-men. Put him in a freakin X-men team movie, you idiots!

And Kinberg's comments about the tone and the voice don't mean ish. He says the same thing about every X-men movie.

 

[def28]

Expanding the Vanessa relationship is really what made Deadpool work beyond the humor and action. There's barely anything in the books with that. Even in Origins they got Wade's personality right. It was the fourth wall breaking, heart and balancing the drama along with heavy humor that is very difficult with Deadpool. The film is one of a kind in tone.

Everything you need to have Gambit work personality wise is in the books as well. He is a very charismatic and fun character when written well.

They need an engaging heist story here. But also balance the fun, romance, action, sci fi, drama etc. Getting the character right is extremely important, cause why bother to make the film otherwise but just having the personality is clearly not enough. Comic films are mainstream genre benders and need to work on a ton of levels.

As a producer Kinberg struck gold with Deadpool, I don't think he was bad mouthing it. While not part of the main creative team, he was a big reason on why it got made. The dude is just horrible at tap dancing around questions. He should have just emphasized that getting the character right like the Deadpool team did is crucial and left it at that.

 

[katie_girl09]

Gambit works best as a supporting character, especially when he's interacting with character like Rogue and Wolverine. Take that away and he's a much less appealing character. He was pretty popular early too because he was mysterious, but a solo movie won't play that up because he's the protagonist. So if Gambit won't have some of the things that make his voice so popular the movie is going to need an interesting plot.

I don't agree with this at all. Gambit's a very interesting character with or without that initial mystery. He is charismatic, funny, has an interesting job, interesting family and friends and is hot to boot (all by comic book standards, of course). He has everything that a character needs to be solo successfully. He's just been VERY poorly-written over the last several years by an X-Office that either hates him or simply doesn't like him enough to do better. If you don't think Gambit can be interesting as a protagonist, I implore you to read some fanfiction about him. There's great stuff out there. Most of it has nothing to do with Rogue or Wolverine. That's pretty much all I read to get my Gambit fix. It's how he *should* be written.

 

[Mad Ones]

I don't agree with this at all. Gambit's a very interesting character with or without that initial mystery. He is charismatic, funny, has an interesting job, interesting family and friends and is hot to boot (all by comic book standards, of course). He has everything that a character needs to be solo successfully. He's just been VERY poorly-written over the last several years by an X-Office that either hates him or simply doesn't like him enough to do better. If you don't think Gambit can be interesting as a protagonist, I implore you to read some fanfiction about him. There's great stuff out there. Most of it has nothing to do with Rogue or Wolverine. That's pretty much all I read to get my Gambit fix. It's how he *should* be written.

They love him so much they gave him a solo, which didn't sell that well despite being good (solo X-titles aren't too common). Compare that to Deadpool's proliferation of titles. Marvel's newest effort with the character is Deadpool vs Gambit, which looks fun but again attaches Gambit to another character. I didn't say it can't be done but Gambit needs to be a bit more than a charming male protagonist. I've never read fanfiction about him so I'll take your word that he can be interesting solo (we should hope since they are making a movie about him).

With Deadpool, all the movie needed to do was let the character's voice come through and dominate the movie. Gambit needs an interesting plot or else the movie will just be him flirting and saying stuff in French.

 

[chamber-music]

The Thieves Guild and the Assassins Guild stuff is straight Romeo and Juliet.