Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[psylockolussus]

I don't know man.... why couldn't they just introduce Gambit to the world of the X-Men first... like how Wolverine/Rogue were introduced to the world of the X-Men in X1? I feel like Channing Tatum's Gambit could be the new Wolverine in the present period since he would look a bit of place in the X-Men's 90s roster... but instead their first move for Channing's Gambit is a solo Gambit film... that just doesn't seem a good idea to me especially if its budget is more than $100 million. Introduce him in the X-Men first, if people like him then go do a prequel.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If you are going to do it, fine but I don't get rushing into a solo adventure either.

 

[katie_girl09]

They love him so much they gave him a solo, which didn't sell that well despite being good (solo X-titles aren't too common). Compare that to Deadpool's proliferation of titles. Marvel's newest effort with the character is Deadpool vs Gambit, which looks fun but again attaches Gambit to another character. I didn't say it can't be done but Gambit needs to be a bit more than a charming male protagonist. I've never read fanfiction about him so I'll take your word that he can be interesting solo (we should hope since they are making a movie about him).

Meh. They throw him a bone once in a while because they know he has a fanbase and they want to milk it a bit. But it is always half-hearted. Not promoted, he's not on any important/interesting teams and the book doesn't tie into anything else and is therefore easy to miss and not care about, etc. I knew plenty of Gambit fans who didn't even know he had a solo until I told them months after it was out. It's also kind of unfair to compare Gambit to Deadpool at this point because not only is Deadpool in the height of his popularity right now (these things tend to go in cycles), Deadpool is actually being respected and appreciated as a character. He gets good and consequential storylines. And he deserves to. He is a great character. And so is Gambit.

Anyhow, my argument was about Gambit being an interesting character. It was not about comparing him to Deadpool.

With Deadpool, all the movie needed to do was let the character's voice come through and dominate the movie. Gambit needs an interesting plot or else the movie will just be him flirting and saying stuff in French.

There is so much more to Gambit's character than that. But I'm honestly so sick of having to explain that to people that I'm not even going to touch that.

I agree that Gambit is going to need an interesting plot. But then, I firmly believe that every movie needs an interesting plot. Yes, even Deadpool. I fail to see how that is some kind of indictment on Gambit as a character.

 

[Mad Ones]

To be clear, I'm one of the more enthusiastic supporters of this movie. I agree that I don't think the 2000s have been kind to him. My foray into the comics haven't done him any favours (I haven't read anything from the 90s). I started reading X-men with Gambit as my favourite character but that dissipated because his best stories I guess weren't accessible to me.

 

[DarkSouls]

So, if this movie does happen, when do you think they'll announce Doug Liman as directing Gambit for real? I mean, if they were nearing in on a deal you'd think they'd have announced that by now, right? I mean sure, Channing and he are currently doing other things, but if the screenplay was as good as they said it was...

 

[Knight_SV]

There's a rumor floating around Tatum might leaving Gambit and join DCEU

 

[Smilodon]

Not even a rumor, just conjecture based off of Famuyiwa's followers.

Probably not happening. Carolin was doing rewrites, Tatum's a producer etc. etc. And there's nothing to say he can't do both.

 

[Neptune]

There's a rumor floating around Tatum might leaving Gambit and join DCEU

God please let it be true.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Gambit is sure taking it's sweet ass time

 

[Mike Murdock]

There's a rumor floating around Tatum might leaving Gambit and join DCEU

It's really based in nothing and doesn't make sense since there's nothing preventing him from doing both.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just want Gambit in a X-Men movie as a member or ally of the X-Men. I've been waiting for that since X2. It sucks that they couldn't make that a reality. They shoehorned Gambit in Wolverine's origin film and then they didn't bring the actor for another movie. Now they got a big star for the role and for a solo film, it keeps getting postponed and a Gambit movie is questionable especially if they plan to give it a very big budget. Just put him in the freaking X-Men movie... if people love him then do your prequel movie again like you did with Wolverine, Professor X and Magneto.

 

[Knight_SV]

It's really based in nothing and doesn't make sense since there's nothing preventing him from doing both.

depend on the contract, we never see any actor and actress doing 2 superhero franchise from 2 different studios simultaneously

 

[Smilodon]

LR and others shoot down the rumor her.

http://www.latino-review.com/news/n...al&utm_source=***********&utm_campaign=buffer

http://www.omegaunderground.com/201...ource-suggests-channing-tatum-leaving-gambit/

 

[psylockolussus]

depend on the contract, we never see any actor and actress doing 2 superhero franchise from 2 different studios simultaneously

James Marsden and Halle Berry.t:

 

[kevork89]

James Marsden and Halle Berry.t:

Yeah but back then there wasn't 3-6 picture contracts. Halle and James were doing X-Men one contract at a time so they could take on other roles. And also the comic book franchisees weren't as big then as they are now. All of Marvel's contracts would be air tight you won't be seeing Chris Evans as Cap as the same time as playing a DC character.

When I heard the stories I just thought nah can't be true. Gambit has been a passion project of Channing's for years now as well as the fact that LSD has wanted him to play Gambit since Last Stand when she worked with him on She's the Man. Also what makes me sure he didn't jump ship is him being in the sequel to Kingsman. Which is a Fox production. I could see that being apart of some kind of deal he's made with Fox.

 

[GuestStar2004]

James Marsden and Halle Berry.t:

They went well ;p

 

[-JKR-]

I have a good feeling about this 'underdog' film. I think it'll get made in the end, and it'll surprise naysayers. Just a little gut feeling.

 

[Neptune]

I doubt it. I don't wanna be a negative Nancy but if you look at process of this project and the way people at Fox talk about Gambit, then it's hard to be optimistic about it. First they thought his personality was too similar to Wolverine and that his powers were too similar to Cyclops'. Now Kinberg is talking about the plot of movie not being important as long as they get the tone of his personality right.

 

[-JKR-]

I don't think you've understood what Kinberg was saying with that. He didn't say that the plot wasn't important, but that it's important to get the character, his little tics and mannerism and the world that surrounds him right first.

Getting a script right doesn't equal having a complicated story.

Die Hard has the world's simplest plot, yet it has a brilliant script. Same with Deadpool.

And I don't recall anyone at the studio complaining about him being too similar to Wolverine or Cyclops ever since this particular project, with Channing Tatum starring and producing, was announced.

Who cares about was the opinion in the past. Studios change regime. The guys who made X-Men Origins: Wolverine aren't really the same guys who did Deadpool.

Tatum is a smart producer and actor, is passionate about the character, and Doug Liman is a great director, and the entire creative team is taking their time to get the script right, instead of rushing it into production. There, that's what matters.

 

[Neptune]

We'll see. I hope you're right though.

 

[jaymes_e06]

James Marsden and Halle Berry.t:

....and we all know how that turned out.

 

[henzINNIT]

I'd be much more confident of this film's chances if the reported budget wasn't so stupidly high. I don't see why this couldn't be a fun film, but it definitely doesn't need to be huge. Fox, play this like you did with Deapool: modest budget with an enthusiastic lead and some passion behind the camera.

 

[-JKR-]

I'd be much more confident of this film's chances if the reported budget wasn't so stupidly high. I don't see why this couldn't be a fun film, but it definitely doesn't need to be huge. Fox, play this like you did with Deapool: modest budget with an enthusiastic lead and some passion behind the camera.

We don't know what's the scope of the story, and what kind of effects and locations, and whatever, it needs.

See, Deadpool worked perfectly... but this is is Gambit, and it's a different film. So there's no need to look and something else and go "do it like THAT."

That's where failure starts. Deadpool was so great because it stayed true to what the creative team (Ryan Reynolds, Rhett Reese & Paul Wernick, Tim Miller) had envisioned for it. Let's have THIS crew (Channing Tatum, Doug Liman & Co.) stay true to what THEY set out to do, without judging something we barely know anything about.

 

[Smilodon]

Pretty sure those rewrites and delays were to lower the budget and make it a bit more Deadpool-like in terms of intimacy in light of the success of Deadpool. If Fox strings together some of these low risk, high reward hits, their cinematic universe could be up and running in no time.

 

[henzINNIT]

We don't know what's the scope of the story, and what kind of effects and locations, and whatever, it needs.

See, Deadpool worked perfectly... but this is is Gambit, and it's a different film. So there's no need to look and something else and go "do it like THAT."

That's where failure starts. Deadpool was so great because it stayed true to what the creative team had envisioned for it. Let's have THIS crew stay true to what they set out to do, without judging something we barely know anything about.

There's nothing wrong with copying the method behind Deadpool's success imo. That film benefitted by being placed in the appropriate hands and by being cheap enough to avoid too much nervous meddling from the studio. I'm not saying the films themselves should be in any way similar; but it would be smart not to splurge too much on an unproven property, especially when it is unnecessary. A Gambit story doesn't demand a massive scale.