The Rise of Skywalker General Star Wars Episode IX News/Speculation Thread - Part 1

[Iceman]

Oscar Isaac recently said that the story deals quiet a bit with Leia's death and paying homage.

It's got me thinking that the drive of the film's plot will be Leia's death galvanizing the Rebellion and inspiring the galaxy to unite and over throw the First Order. I think it will shake everyone out of an apathy. Her death essentially being a shot of NOS into the veins of the people that werent there for her when she needed her allies the most on Crait.

Link to Oscar's comments:

Oscar Isaac says Episode IX handles Carrie Fisher's death in a beautiful way

That would be a good storyline to use and a nice tribute to Carrie Fisher.

 

[TheVileOne]

If JJ Abrams spends half the movie retconning Rian Johnson, I can't accept that and I might just walk out of the theater.

 

[TheVileOne]

I feel like williams has knocked it out of the park with the ST scores. Reys theme is easily one of my fave pieces of music ever

I really like Kylo Ren and Rey's themes in The Force Awakens. I felt like they added a lot to the canon. They sounded like Star Wars, but they were nice and recognizable themes.

It's another reason I don't get the hate for the film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If JJ Abrams spends half the movie retconning Rian Johnson, I can't accept that and I might just walk out of the theater.

 

[TheVileOne]

It ain't happening.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I really like Kylo Ren and Rey's themes in The Force Awakens. I felt like they added a lot to the canon. They sounded like Star Wars, but they were nice and recognizable themes.

It's another reason I don't get the hate for the film.

Is there much hate for TFA? That truly was a vocal minority, especially when you consider how many people showed up for Rogue One and especially TLJ opening weekends.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It ain't happening.

He won't retcon anything. What would he retcon that is set in stone? He'll just Tony Stark this in the cave. He'll be Batman with prep time.

 

[Iceman]

It ain't happening.

So you’ll walk out of the cinema if something that isn’t going to happen happens? May as well get comfy in your seat then and get the extra large popcorn tub.

 

[Aximili86]

JJ loves The Last Jedi, guys. Stop. He won't be retconning jack (the Luke stuff, "random Rey", I doubt he messes with that). Wouldn't surprise me if he leans into the Rose character a bit more either, more of her rather than less.

It'll probably feel more like TFA than TLJ overall, but obviously. That's not backing off from TLJ, that's just...same director.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Personally I can see Rey being a nobody being retconned, but the rest I think he will keep intact.

 

[TheVileOne]

So you’ll walk out of the cinema if something that isn’t going to happen happens? May as well get comfy in your seat then and get the extra large popcorn tub.

I would walk out in the event of him retconning and changing everything established by Rian Johnson yes.

 

[Gothamsknight]

Is there much hate for TFA? That truly was a vocal minority, especially when you consider how many people showed up for Rogue One and especially TLJ opening weekends.

Agreed. I'd also say the same for TLJ honestly. yes, TLJ is a divisive movie, but definitely not to the extent the people who hated it try to make it out to be. Episode IX will be a huge event next year

 

[Marvolo]

None of the major things in TLJ were really established concretely. Snoke is dead, but he was a Force user so bringing him back in some capacity wouldnt be a retcon. Luke appeared to become one with the Force...but it wasnt really confirmed and he is a Jedi so he can always return or maybe even resurrect in some capacity. Rey's parents being "filthy junk traders that traded her for drinking money" is also unconfirmed. It was revealed by two unreliable sources (mirror cave and Kylo) and Rey and Kylo had that revelation while Snoke was bridging their minds so it could be some BS created by Snoke.

The only one I'd rather JJ not mess with is Rey's parents. I like the idea and the message that heroes can come from all backgrounds. That even the daughter of filthy jaku junk traders can have a great destiny. It's a nice change up from Luke in the OT.

 

[TheVileOne]

None of the major things in TLJ were really established concretely. Snoke is dead, but he was a Force user so bringing him back in some capacity wouldnt be a retcon. Luke appeared to become one with the Force...but it wasnt really confirmed and he is a Jedi so he can always return or maybe even resurrect in some capacity. Rey's parents being "filthy junk traders that traded her for drinking money" is also unconfirmed. It was revealed by two unreliable sources (mirror cave and Kylo) and Rey and Kylo had that revelation while Snoke was bridging their minds so it could be some BS created by Snoke.

All that sounds really contrived.

 

[Marvolo]

All that sounds really contrived.

How?

Force Users surviving death in various ways is a basic concept in the star wars universe that runs through all the Episodes and multiple shows and comics. Its existed in the star wars universe since 1977. Nothing contrived about it.

And the revalation about Rey's parents being a manipulation wouldnt be contrived because its blatantly established in TLJ that Snoke was manipulating both Rey and Kylo. Itd just be one more manipulation.

 

[Marvolo]

Unrelated rumor:

A rumor and supposed evidence may indicate that Ezra Bridger will be in Episode 9. As always take this with a grain of salt.

Star Wars 9 leaked scene describes THIS legendary character from Star Wars Rebels | Films | Entertainment | Express.co.uk

 

[DarthSkywalker]

JJ loves The Last Jedi, guys. Stop. He won't be retconning jack (the Luke stuff, "random Rey", I doubt he messes with that). Wouldn't surprise me if he leans into the Rose character a bit more either, more of her rather than less.

It'll probably feel more like TFA than TLJ overall, but obviously. That's not backing off from TLJ, that's just...same director.

Would you like to cite some evidence on that one?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Agreed. I'd also say the same for TLJ honestly. yes, TLJ is a divisive movie, but definitely not to the extent the people who hated it try to make it out to be. Episode IX will be a huge event next year

The reaction to TLJ is a bit different. Especially when you consider that film's legs and how well Solo did.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The reaction to TLJ is a bit different. Especially when you consider that film's legs and how well Solo did.

i always felt solo was in reaction to the fact that solo wasn't marketed well or that people generally weren't interested, but i could be wrong. Regardless though, I think IX is gonna do very well and I think most people are generally curious how the saga is gonna end

 

[Snow Queen]

Unrelated rumor:

A rumor and supposed evidence may indicate that Ezra Bridger will be in Episode 9. As always take this with a grain of salt.

Star Wars 9 leaked scene describes THIS legendary character from Star Wars Rebels | Films | Entertainment | Express.co.uk

Well, it wouldn't be a sequel trilogy movie if there wasn't some rumour about Ezra showing up.

 

[Frodo]

TLJ is a very polarizing film among SW fanbase to be sure.

At the same time, I don't think the film is as beloved among the GA as fans who love it think it is , nor as hated among the GA as fans who hate it think it is. That type of polarizing love v hate sentiment is more reflective of fandom in general. TLJ is just the latest example of it as far as fans go.

I expect those same extremes to express themselves with Episode 9 as well as far as the fandom goes. As far as the GA, by next winter, the audience will be ready for another SW film.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The Express go wild with their rumors.

 

[Iceman]

i always felt solo was in reaction to the fact that solo wasn't marketed well or that people generally weren't interested, but i could be wrong.

Both of those are true, but I don't think they are enough to fully explain the ridiculous difference in box office between Rogue One and Solo. What if they were switched with RO coming after TLJ and Solo after TFA? I think in that case Solo makes more (maybe another $150m or so worldwide) and RO makes about $200m less. Which would make it a closer $550m vs $850m instead of under $400m vs $1.05B.

Regardless though, I think IX is gonna do very well and I think most people are generally curious how the saga is gonna end

There is not really a question of Star Wars: Episode IX not doing well. It's just a question of how well and how much money will now be left on the table for the final main entry to what should be the biggest film franchise of all time. After TFA and RO, estimates for IX would have gone shooting up with it making so much more than expected in both films. After TLJ's legs and reception in some quarters and Solo's numbers, expectations are now lower.

 

[TheVileOne]

Unrelated rumor:

A rumor and supposed evidence may indicate that Ezra Bridger will be in Episode 9. As always take this with a grain of salt.

Star Wars 9 leaked scene describes THIS legendary character from Star Wars Rebels | Films | Entertainment | Express.co.uk

Where did this so-called leak even come from? It's hot garbage.

EDIT:

NM, the source of the link was MIKE ZEROH. The epitome of Star Wars FAKE NEWS.

 

[TheVileOne]

The Express go wild with their rumors.

They took it from that piece of trash Mike Zeroh's YouTube channel. All he does is make garbage up and steal from Making Star Wars.

Previous article from the same source and Mike Zeroh. Snoke = Sith No One Knew Existed.

Mike Zeroh must be a Russell T. Davies fan.
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