Comics Get ready people, JMS and Joe Q are planning ANOTHER Spider-Man event

[SpideyLad]

Is there honestly anything wrong with his marriage? And secondly, why the hell do we need these stupid arcs now that "Shake Spidey's foundations to its very core!"?

 

[WOLVERINE25TH]

Because Marvel's core books are devoid of any actual talent so they hafta hide it?

 

[Norman Osborn]

So they recognise his marriage to MJ as a problem,and in the summer of next year they plan to tear our hearts out.

Hmmmm could it be the end of the marriage for MJ and Pete??

Either way I sense more lame and cheap shock value,right along the lines of the other trash they've thrown at us in the past 2 years.

I believe JQ has always been supportive of the marriage and was quoted as saying he can't just have them divorced because of the message it would send kids ...Spidey eating Morlun's head apparently a fine message!!

....ever since SM3 announced Gwen Stacy was going to be in the sequel I've had a really bad feeling in the pit of my stomach...and it's gotten worse since reading this.......Gwen's coming back....she was never dead...and MJ knew it all along (and don't anyone dare tell me it's a stretch after Sins Pat)

...I'm sure it's just the eternal optimist in me but I was really putting a lot of faith into Civil War bringing everything back to some semblance of normalcy......One individual is apparently behind CW so is it a stretch that this person was also behind Spidey's new found mystical powers?...and we know GG has a presence hence the opportunity to retcon SP......

......looks like It'll be after JMS and JQ are gone before I pick up another Spidey title

 

[The Joker]

I believe JQ has always been supportive of the marriage and was quoted as saying he can't just have them divorced because of the message it would send kids

LOL! But wives keeping HUGE secrets from their husbands for years,like MJ knowing of Gwen's dirty secret in Sins Past,is a fine message to send out about marriage

ever since SM3 announced Gwen Stacy was going to be in the sequel I've had a really bad feeling in the pit of my stomach...and it's gotten worse since reading this.......Gwen's coming back....she was never dead...and MJ knew it all along (and don't anyone dare tell me it's a stretch after Sins Pat)

Bingo.

When a character get's put into the movies,it opens the floodgates for appearances from that character in the comics.Expect to see Sandman minis galore coming soon.

But Gwen is dead.The only way she should come back is Spider-Man:Blue style.

I'm sure it's just the eternal optimist in me but I was really putting a lot of faith into Civil War bringing everything back to some semblance of normalcy......One individual is apparently behind CW so is it a stretch that this person was also behind Spidey's new found mystical powers?...and we know GG has a presence hence the opportunity to retcon SP

One person is behind civil war?? Norman Osborn again probably

And they won't retcon Sins Past,not yet anyway.Joe Q said he loved it.

looks like It'll be after JMS and JQ are gone before I pick up another Spidey title

That's could be a very loooooooooooooooooong time my friend.The old school comics are your friend.Go spend your cash on those.

 

[Norman Osborn]

But Gwen is dead.The only way she should come back is Spider-Man:Blue style.

Although I agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment...(And I absolutely loved Blue ) it's whether or not JQ and JMS agree with it....and giving their current record of b&^&* slapping continuity/canon and the Spidey mythos.....*sigh*

 

[Themanofbat]

That's could be a very loooooooooooooooooong time my friend.The old school comics are your friend.Go spend your cash on those.

But I already own every Spider-Man comic...

...except for Amazing Fantasy #15...

My Daddy would never buy me one of those...

Come to think of it, my Dad has never bought me a comic.

 

[spahn]

i agree with shinlyle, the thing that draws people to spidey is the ability to relate to him. if we wanted a superhero that was "single", we could choose millions of superheroes out there.

part of the draw to spidey is that he is married and that he has ups and downs in his marriage but in the end they are able to work it out.

and the argument could be made that this spidey will not relate to the younger generation, but i disagree. teenagers have there boyfriends and girlfriends and they can get some value out of the struggles that peter and mj go through. and if they want teenagers to relate to a younger spiderman, then have them read Ultimate Spider-Man.

but like someone stated earlier, we will be in line buying the comics when they come out.

 

[Norman Osborn]

but like someone stated earlier, we will be in line buying the comics when they come out.

Not all of us......I dropped ASM right after the "Other" and "FNSM" just recently....I now spend those hard earned dollars on something far more satisfying....good comics!!

 

[Dragon]

But Gwen is dead.The only way she should come back is Spider-Man:Blue style.

Then again, it'd be easy enough for them to do a "Ben Reilly". The Gwen that "died" on the bridge was the clone. The one we've thought all this time was a clone was the real Gwen.

No, I'm not saying Marvel should do this. I'm just saying they can. As much as I love Gwen- or perhaps because I love Gwen, I don't want her brought back into the hands of these hacks.

Although her resurrection might be on the slate of Loeb's new Spidey title.

 

[3dman27]

maybe jms and joe q need to get thier walking papers

 

[Rambo, John J]

I actually thought he was on the right track - i.e. he was willing to admit his culpability in the poor status of Spidey comics in the recent past and take steps to rectify it - until he mentioned the marriage which, correct me if i'm wrong, hasn't he always supported?

What happened you JQ? You used to be someone I could trust.

No-prize for whoever gets the reference.

 

[Citizen_Kaine]

"This is bull****!" *Clap, Clap, Clap Clap Clap!* "This is bull****!" *Clap, Clap, Clap Clap Clap!*

As stated above by my little chant, Marvel wants to fix all the damage to Spider Man thats happened, By writing another overpriced mini featuring both JMS and Joey Q as a team!?

*Head Explodes*

 

[The Joker]

But I already own every Spider-Man comic...

...except for Amazing Fantasy #15...

Wow you lucky devil.Are they in original format,reprint,or a mixture of the two??

Then again, it'd be easy enough for them to do a "Ben Reilly". The Gwen that "died" on the bridge was the clone. The one we've thought all this time was a clone was the real Gwen

And if they did that,then they would have officially and completely pissed all over ASM#121 and 122.Because not only would Gwen have died because she was refusing Norman access to their kids [not because Norman wanted to punish Peter],but the Gwen that actually died was not the real Gwen.

Ugh what a croc of s***

No, I'm not saying Marvel should do this. I'm just saying they can. As much as I love Gwen- or perhaps because I love Gwen, I don't want her brought back into the hands of these hacks.

Although her resurrection might be on the slate of Loeb's new Spidey title.

I'm getting sick of Gwen's ghost haunting Peter.

She's DEAD!!!

Yes it was tragic,and she was his first real love,and he blames himself for her death etc etc.But he's dealt with it.He's grieved for her.He's moved on.He's married now.It's all in the past.

I swear I wish someone would go to Gwen's grave,dig it up and bury a stake in her heart,just to ensure she's not ever coming back.

 

[Themanofbat]

Wow you lucky devil.Are they in original format,reprint,or a mixture of the two??

They're all original copies.

I bought them off the rack from ASM #183 to 441, then 471 to current..

The rest were picked up over the years as back issues.

 

[Doc_OCK_4MUGEN]

And chop her head, fill her mouth with Garlic and expose her dead body to sunlight, Then Blow the corpse into millions of Tiny pieces, just to make sure...

JMS: Gee Joe, what are we doing tonight?
JQ: The same thing we do every night Joe, Try to tasnish Spider-man!!!
*Cue Pinky and the Brain song...*
They're Quesada & JMS, Quesada & JMS
One is an idiot, the other's one as well...
They're Marvel Comics hacks... and Spidey they despise...
They're idiots, Quesada &JMS-S-S-S
S-S-S-S... SPOO!
JQ: Are you pondering what I'm pondering
JMS: I think so Joe, Why does Donald duck wear a towel when he gets out of the shower, when normally he doesn't wear any pants?
JQ: No, Joe, I've figured another plan to destroy Spider-man...
JMS:Spoo! Totem! Sins Past, Joe! what's the plan?
JQ: We'll retcon the other and iron spider, making it look like we're pleasing the fans, then you'll write a story in which aunt may and peter had sex with mj while watching a babylon 5 marathon... not at the same time... and that's not all... we'll have a flashback sequence in qhich we show T3nt@cl3 s3>< with Ock and aunt May... This will be a 69 issue story... and you can plug any crap you want on the story... you can add new villains like thae paper pusher, he will give spidey's toughest battle yet... his powers he can push papers... YES!
JMS: Spoo!

They're idiots, Quesada &JMS-S-S-S
S-S-S-S... SPOO!

 

[dan1]

Just
Murdered
Spidey
the hack

Joe Quesada
The fanboy who sold his soul for 6 figures.

And we say it again. "I told you so."

 

[stillanerd]

Somehow WE'LL get the blame (as well as the Pete &MJ Marriage) if it flops... which most likely will... See T3h 0th3r and T3h 1r0n 5p1d3r suit... God! I hate 733t speak... almost as much as what the unholy trinity is doing to Pete...

Oh, you know very well they will. I can just hear Joe Q and JMS now, "First you complain about the changes we made to try and develop Spider-Man and want us to fix him and make him how he should be. Now you're complaining about us trying to fix the problems and make him how he should be and you start complaining, blah, blah, blah."

Excuse me Mr. Quesada and Mr. Straczynski, but that's not the point. The point is that YOU AND YOUR HOLLYWOOD FLUNKIES were the very people who were responsible for the state Spidey is in and one which was so obviously avoidable. You guys didn't accidently knock over the vase and break it--you guys purposefully took a hammer to it and smashed it. And of course, after you guys started gluing the broken shards back together, the vase looks nothing like it was when you broke it, and when we fail to buy it from you, you decide to smash it and reglue it again. And you know what Joe Q, JMS, and all the rest of you Hollywood flunkies? "If it ain't broke, don't fix it." That should've been what you at Marvel must have learned after the Clone Saga and the reboot, but obviously you haven't because your own egos made you deaf, dumb, and blind. I sort of figured this was your game plan when I made this "evolved but not changed" thread and this news confirms my suspicions. And some people a lot more insightful and wiser than myself saw this all along.

Maybe this mini will get things back to a classical template but given your track record, it will probably end up creating more problems as a result.

 

[Mara Jane]

Well... time to start packing my bags, then. It's sad that 2007 is Pete & MJ's 20th anniversary. They deserve so much better than all this crap. I'll probably mourn for quite a while... and when this mini comes, it'll be the last Spidey book I ever buy.

On a side note... I really don't see what bringing Gwen back would accomplish. Even if she and Pete hooked up, he'd end up right back in the same place: stuck with one girl. You really are S-M-R-T, Mr. Q.

 

[Daniel_Lioneye]

Wizard: What's the biggest problem with Spider-Man right now?

JOE: I've said it before: that darn marriage to Mary Jane. It has been one of the biggest problems in writing Spider-Man stories for new and younger readers. Let me put it clearly - Spider-Man is one of the greatest if not the greatest teen superhero ever created. He's supposed to be a young, viable, single character. And over the course of 40-some-odd years, as writers grew older and got married and stuff, they took Peter Parker along for the ride, forgetting about the fact that there were 9-year-olds who wanted to get into Peter Parker in the same way that they all did, which was a young guy. Peter grew old and married a supermodel. Peter became Billy Joel.



...........And that's why people read Ultimate Spider-man! If they don't want to deal with all the baggage, they read the book without it. This has gotten ridiculous, I haven't bought a 616 Spider-man book since I can remember because somehow marvel can take their best character and never cease to misuse him. Batman is arguably DC's biggest character(either him or Superman), and the reason people haven't been up in arms the last several years over Batman is no matter what they do to Batman's universe, they almost never change Batman himself, because they know that's what people bought the book for. If Batman isn't acting like Batman anymore, Batman fans won't want to read it anymore, it's that simple. Sure they misfire like everyone does, but never on a scale this big.

I found it very amusing when they called The Other: Evolve or Die, since the last several years they have done everything they can to de-evolve Spider-man. Now he folds like a cheap card table when Iron Man tells him to wear red and gold underpants, and the thing that made him special(the randomness of his being bitten by the spider and going from a weaker person to a hero) has been turned into a spider-god ordained event. That's not Spider-man!!

And even things that could have been incredible stories in a capable writers hands are wasted. Spider-man always vowed never to kill, but finally did when he finished off Morlun. So of all the villains he has faced, all the horrendous things done to him by Norman Satan Osborn, Morlun is the one who pushed him too far?? That would be like having Batman finally kill someone, but instead of the Joker who has done everything he can to ruin his life, he kills the Ventriloquist(yes I know Wesker is dead already.)

I love Spider-man, he is easily Marvel's icon, so why they want to ruin him is beyond me. It's like a country winning their independence so they can piss on their own flag.

 

[Dragon]

And if they did that,then they would have officially and completely pissed all over ASM#121 and 122.Because not only would Gwen have died because she was refusing Norman access to their kids [not because Norman wanted to punish Peter],but the Gwen that actually died was not the real Gwen.

Ugh what a croc of s***

They've already done that with Sins Past. They've pretty much pissed over Peter and the legacy of Spider-Man regardless.

 

[MC2Spiderman]

if they want to make us enjoy the comics bring back Ben or at least another clone but not bring in the whole clone saga shebang

 

[MaxCarnage]

if they want to make us enjoy the comics bring back Ben or at least another clone but not bring in the whole clone saga shebang

 

[Dragon]

Well... time to start packing my bags, then. It's sad that 2007 is Pete & MJ's 20th anniversary. They deserve so much better than all this crap. I'll probably mourn for quite a while... and when this mini comes, it'll be the last Spidey book I ever buy.

On a side note... I really don't see what bringing Gwen back would accomplish. Even if she and Pete hooked up, he'd end up right back in the same place: stuck with one girl. You really are S-M-R-T, Mr. Q.

Like I said before, while Gwen is a fav, I agree with you. If they can't handle one relationship, they won't be able to handle another.

Maybe they'll have Peter break-up with MJ, get together with Gwen, and when things go stale, they'll have him break-up with Gwen and return to his REAL FIRST LOVE, Betty. Then he'll break up with Betty after a few years and return to his soulmate, MJ. Then he'll break up with MJ and return to the woman that holds his heart, Gwen, etc. etc.. It'll be a fun little rotation.

 

[MaxCarnage]

Like I said before, while Gwen is a fav, I agree with you. If they can't handle one relationship, they won't be able to handle another.

Maybe they'll have Peter break-up with MJ, get together with Gwen, and when things go stale, they'll have him break-up with Gwen and return to his REAL FIRST LOVE, Betty. Then he'll break up with Betty after a few years and return to his soulmate, MJ. Then he'll break up with MJ and return to the woman that holds his heart, Gwen, etc. etc.. It'll be a fun little rotation.

They oughtta just have him go "Big Love" and marry all three. Let Polygamist Spider-Man hilarity ensue!

 

[MC2Spiderman]

i think they should go onto the next step which is kids for pete and MJ, it would also give more dangers but a sense of more responsibility for peter