Gravity - Part 1

Call her a symbol of humanity's endurance. She went into a dangerous environment, fought against the elements. Enduring many attempts to kill her, to demotivate her. To keep her from achieving her goal and still won out against it all and made it home alive and triumphant. Even when she was alone physically she knew she was never truly alone.

Isn't that philosophical enough? Or should it be more pretentious and full of hand-waving quasi-deep sounding monologues about something it never quite defines?

The movie was not and never attempted or claimed to be 2001. It was never meant to emulate that movie. Putting that kind of expectation on it is why this movie would disappoint anyone who felt it should have been like that.
 
Call her a symbol of humanity's endurance. She went into a dangerous environment, fought against the elements. Enduring many attempts to kill her, to demotivate her. To keep her from achieving her goal and still won out against it all and made it home alive and triumphant. Even when she was alone physically she knew she was never truly alone.

Isn't that philosophical enough? Or should it be more pretentious and full of hand-waving quasi-deep sounding monologues about something it never quite defines?

The movie was not and never attempted or claimed to be 2001. It was never meant to emulate that movie. Putting that kind of expectation on it is why this movie would disappoint anyone who felt it should have been like that.

Yeah, fair enough. I just expected some sic fi thing in the end, like some alien contact or something. I am a sucker for movies in space with aliens :woot:
 
There was never going to be a twist to the ending though, why did you expect one?

Besides the fact Hollywood has an obsession with them that is... damn you Shyamalan. :argh:
 
A big black monolith in space :woot:. Well I don't know, maybe something more unexpected, besides her struggle to survive in space, and even that started to become boring and fake with how she survived one wave of obstacle after another. But it may be just me for expecting an epic, philosophical revelation and not getting one.

I'm not quite sure how you expected something of the likes given the past films by Cuaron didn't really do anything of the sorts. He's a very visually creative director, whether it's Harry Potter 3 or Children of Men, Gravity fits right into his style of film making.
 
I dont think there is anything wrong with mine and Alex spiders expectations.
I avoided all spoilers and knew nothing of the film. This allowed me to imagine what the film might possibly be like. I am not saying the film is **** because of this but it was nowhere near what i had conjured up in my mind.

There are plenty of films that have bizarre endings which arent exactly twists. I gave this movie the benfit of the doubt of just being another OTT action film.

And in regards to Cuarons previous films they were both based on books so Gravity being an original it could have gone in any direction.
 
I dont think there is anything wrong with mine and Alex spiders expectations.
I avoided all spoilers and knew nothing of the film. This allowed me to imagine what the film might possibly be like. I am not saying the film is **** because of this but it was nowhere near what i had conjured up in my mind.

There are plenty of films that have bizarre endings which arent exactly twists. I gave this movie the benfit of the doubt of just being another OTT action film.

And in regards to Cuarons previous films they were both based on books so Gravity being an original it could have gone in any direction.



There's nothing wrong with having expectation, but you shouldn't build the film up in your mind ahead of time otherwise you're going to be disappointed regardless of the outcome because the film is never going to deliver what you wanted. If it's sloppy film making from a good director I think it's perfectly valid to feel like the film didn't live up to it's potential and say it didn't meet ones expectations, but Gravity is not a sloppy film, it's a very simple movie trying to be nothing more than a survival story, and it's done extremely well. I don't think there was any indication it was going to be anything more than that in the build up towards its release.
 
To me it is much more than a simple survival story, I see great metaphores, themes and thought-provoking all over it. It's that, in combination with the thrilling and scary, more visceral qualities that makes it a masterpiece in my mind. And how much of it is achieved purely visually.
 
There's nothing wrong with having expectation, but you shouldn't build the film up in your mind ahead of time otherwise you're going to be disappointed regardless of the outcome because the film is never going to deliver what you wanted. If it's sloppy film making from a good director I think it's perfectly valid to feel like the film didn't live up to it's potential and say it didn't meet ones expectations, but Gravity is not a sloppy film, it's a very simple movie trying to be nothing more than a survival story, and it's done extremely well. I don't think there was any indication it was going to be anything more than that in the build up towards its release.

I think my expectations are being blown up a bit. I have been following films for a long time now and normally I end up knowing everything about the movie before it comes out so this time ( not the first time ) I decided against knowing anything about the movie, which is why I had no idea as to what the film was indicating it was going to be. All I knew was "Bullock is floating in space how will she survive?" and from that I imagined what the movie was going to be about. Please dont misinterpret this as frustration as I am having a good time discussing this aspect of film watching.
 
Yeah, fair enough. I just expected some sic fi thing in the end, like some alien contact or something. I am a sucker for movies in space with aliens :woot:

You're the first person I've seen to actually want aliens in this movie. I would have felt cheated if they had pulled something like that. It was a simple, spare journey film and that's all it needed to be.
 
You're the first person I've seen to actually want aliens in this movie. I would have felt cheated if they had pulled something like that. It was a simple, spare journey film and that's all it needed to be.

People have used the word simple quite a bit to describe this film but I personally dont see it as being simple. She went through so much whilst be stuck in space. I need to see the movie again to remember all the events but as soon as she was escaping flames I felt it turned into Speed 3
 
You're the first person I've seen to actually want aliens in this movie. I would have felt cheated if they had pulled something like that. It was a simple, spare journey film and that's all it needed to be.

Well if a movie takes place in space, then aliens are a given :o. Just kidding. Funny thing is, in the beginning, while they were fixing the device before everything goes wrong later in the movie, I thought they were gonna use it as a major part of the plot to make a contact with an alien or something like that. Guess I got fooled big time :csad: Here's hoping to see a clone of Gravity with those elements in the future. :awesome: But I liked the fact that it was an original movie and well made nonetheless.
 
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I don't understand what happens to Clooney. He's holding onto the rope, she has stopped all momentum he has, shouldn't she just be able to pull him back to her.

Edit Did a bit of research, yeah she would have just had to tug on the rope. Eesh huge mistake by the filmmakers
 
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To me it is much more than a simple survival story, I see great metaphores, themes and thought-provoking all over it. It's that, in combination with the thrilling and scary, more visceral qualities that makes it a masterpiece in my mind. And how much of it is achieved purely visually.

Exactly, it is the primal way to depict human condition. Void, nothingness, things happening randomly and having exponential and random consequences, rebirth. It's all there.
 
I don't understand what happens to Clooney. He's holding onto the rope, she has stopped all momentum he has, shouldn't she just be able to pull him back to her.

Edit Did a bit of research, yeah she would have just had to tug on the rope. Eesh huge mistake by the filmmakers
They knew, or so they say. It was a dramatic license to make the story more intense, with her being alone and isolated. There could have been another, more plausible way for him to be lost but for their own reasons they went with this direction instead.
 
I also wanted a proper explanation as to what exactly caused the whole incident with the debris in the first place. I know they mentioned something about the Russians blowing a satellite of their own in orbit, but it was a bit vague and never explained fully.

And if they indeed shot the satellite with a missile, wouldn't they take precaution and inform the U.S. astronauts so that they don't get hurt.
 
I also wanted a proper explanation as to what exactly caused the whole incident with the debris in the first place. I know they mentioned something about the Russians blowing a satellite of their own in orbit, but it was a bit vague and never explained fully.

And if they indeed shot the satellite with a missile, wouldn't they take precaution and inform the U.S. astronauts so that they don't get hurt.

It was implied that it was a Russian SPY satellite. No sense to tell the people you most likely spy on.
 
It was implied that it was a Russian SPY satellite. No sense to tell the people you most likely spy on.

Oh, Ok then. I just thought that would be a major plot in the movie, maybe something big going on back on Earth, like some Apocalyptic event and would be revealed later. Russians did F*** up though lol. They caused major damage in 3 space stations and 2 dead astronauts, if I recall correctly.
 
Also of note that it is WB's 2nd biggest WW movie of 2013, just edging out MoS.
 
Also of note that it is WB's 2nd biggest WW movie of 2013, just edging out MoS.

Fantastic achievement. I hope it does well at the awards, because it was definitely one of last year's best movies.
 
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I saw it tonight, probably the greatest use of camerawork I've ever seen. Not a film I'm likely to re-watch but certainly a good movie experience.

Now we need a sequel where Sandy goes back to find Clooney so we can get the ending of the hairy man story!
 
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