Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

[The Original Bamfer]

Seconded!

 

[B]

Heres a few suggestions for any thread renames

"Everyone Hates David"
"Everyone Loves Lightning Strykez!"
"The New Adventures of Lightning Strykez"
"Lock, Stock & 2 Dumbbells"
"The Chronicles of Lightning Stykez!"
"Boyz In The Restroom"
"The Breakup"
"Collateral Damage"

& I'm done...

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Heres a few suggestions for any thread renames

"Everyone Hates David"
"Everyone Loves Lightning Strykez!"
"The New Adventures of Lightning Strykez"
"Lock, Stock & 2 Dumbbells"
"The Chronicles of Lightning Stykez!"
"Boyz In The Restroom"
"The Breakup"
"Collateral Damage"

& I'm done...

That's great B...I love a lot of those.

But "Lock, Stock & Dumbbells" takes the cake. That's hot.

 

[Speedball]

Wow LS, who is that in your avvy?!

 

[TheDreamMaster]

LS, gotta throw in my topic idea as well....possibly the least uninspired of all.

Lightning Strykez Again!: Electric Boogaloo

It sounds so......right.....?

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, it's certainly uh...shocking Dream Master.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

Well, it's certainly uh...shocking Dream Master.

Well, you do seem to have an electrifying personality t:

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

01.06.10 UPDATE:

Something is really weirded up with Jason. And I don't know if it's good or bad.

Earlier this afternoon he told me that he wanted to go to--get this--a club...together. As a couple. This kinda floored me because Jason vowed when we first got together that clubs, parades, etc. would be out of the question and that our dates would be very low-key when it came to public appearances. But he said that we've both been holed up in his apartment (or mine) too much nowadays and it's driving him bat s*** crazy. I told him that in lieu of what's been happening with David that I wasn't too keen on going out in public right now. We don't know if David's texts (that he's coming back to the city) are true or not. But Jason said that he was tired of living in fear of Dave and that we can't let him control our lives. So he felt that even though this whole gay life deal is very much new to him and that he still has DL hang-ups/fears he's willing to put them aside to out with me and have a good time.

He also said that at the club we could just hold the wall..."we don't have to dance or anything like that."

Personally, I think he is moving a bit too fast in terms of coming out publicly with me. I mean, how will that look: two muscular dudes just "hanging out" with no hot chicks on their arms? People are going to automatically assume that we're gaaaaaaaaaay. I don't have a problem with that because Jason is a beautiful man and nothing to be ashamed of. Besides, I've had more than my full share of dancing on bar tables in public.

But I'm not sure he's really prepared his mind and heart for what it really means to be out with a man in a social setting like that. Watching TV shows (we've been watching Season 2 of this absolutely terrible show called Queer As Folk--his choice ) are not enough--they don't tell the full story. I don't want him to embrace the full gay elements of his bisexuality just for the sake of making me happy. It's like a butterfly that is pried from its cocoon too early: it needs time to fully incubate and grow before beating itself out of that cocoon to fly. If the process is ******ed or premature the butterfly will not take flight properly.

Social adjustment in gay life is not always easy and considering how he is so skurred of bumping into another cop, I'm just not sure it's a good idea to do this so soon. I know relationships are all about sacrifice and give-and-take but he's already been through a lot with me and I don't want him to embark on something else that he's not ready for just for me. The last thing I need to happen right now is for Jason to flip out on me later if he runs into someone he knows or a cop, etc. and suddenly regrets his actions. At this point, he isn't exactly bubbling over with "gay pride" if you know what I mean. He won't even say that he's gay. That word never comes out of his mouth in reference to himself...only to others. As far as he's concerned, "he loves the ladies but he also digs guys." Going to a club like the one we're talking about would certainly put him more in the gay column. But at the same time, who the hell am I to hold him back?

Lately he's been changing the way he looks too. Initially, he was a little more conservative with his clothing, although he always had great style. But lately he's wearing clothes that better fit him: like fitted, tapered button down shirts, etc. that accentuate his chest and huge arms and slacks and jeans that hang off him a lot better. He is trying to go for this tailored model look. Don't get me wrong: all the changes are great (dude looks Hot. As. F***.), but I also kinda liked the original version of Jason...the more shy and reserved "Clark Kent" version. During the holiday I showed him pictures of David (so he could get a better idea of what our stalker looks like). Now it seems he's kicked up his style levels a few notches to better match David's sophisticated style (even though he obviously doesn't have the acumen to shop Lord & Taylor or Bloomingdales, etc.).

But the biggest change? When we first started talking he had a mustache and goatee. But now he's shaved off his stache and goatee but is keeping the little bottom lip tuft thing only. And today he came home and I saw that he has dyed his hair to a much darker brown and changed the style to a shorter cut. He's wearing studs in both ears now.

And he wants to go to a club. With me.

I dunno about this.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Well, you do seem to have an electrifying personality t:

Why thank you sir.

 

[Marx]

It sounds like he might be trying to prove something to you. Or maybe he's just getting more comfortable being himself.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

It sounds like he might be trying to prove something to you. Or maybe he's just getting more comfortable being himself.

He's already proven himself to me though. He saved my neck TWICE and I haven't saved him once yet. I do believe that he's more comfortable with himself, but every once in a while he'll say some things that remind me that he is still not 100% on board.

This club is within his jurisdiction--the part of the city he patrols. So I know he's been eyeing it for a while and knows what goes on there and who frequents it. The place does get a lot of STR8 folks though and it's a more mixed crowd in terms of culture too. But the club does have a substantially gay and lesbian attendance rate from what I understand.

He wants to go Friday, right after he gets off work--which is the prime time of the evening.

 

[Marx]

He's already proven himself to me though. He saved my neck TWICE and I haven't saved him once yet. I do believe that he's more comfortable with himself, but every once in a while he'll say some things that remind me that he is still not 100% on board.

This club is within his jurisdiction--the part of the city he patrols. So I know he's been eyeing it for a while and knows what goes on there and who frequents it. The place does get a lot of STR8 folks though and it's a more mixed crowd in terms of culture too. But the club does have a substantially gay and lesbian attendance rate from what I understand.

He wants to go Friday, right after he gets off work--which is the prime time of the evening.

It sounds like he's becoming more comfortable with himself. You've shown Jason that he has nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[mrvlknight21]

Man, I feel bad if I count too loud by accident lol. You two still aren't as bad as say....people who wear jean shorts to the gym

Aye, this is true. I could never do denim in the gym...the boys don't breathe well...

I'm not sure how anyone could workout in jean shorts.

Hmm...I have no ideawho you guys could be referring to....

I see the topic has devolved into etm references.

Bingo...Bamfer wins the prize.

New scoreboard for this thread

Colossal Spoons 1
NotaHenchwench 1
The Original Bamfer 1
ETM/Immortal -6
Hype Humanoids 0

 

[amazingfantasy15]

01.06.10 UPDATE:

Something is really weirded up with Jason. And I don't know if it's good or bad.

Earlier this afternoon he told me that he wanted to go to--get this--a club...together. As a couple. This kinda floored me because Jason vowed when we first got together that clubs, parades, etc. would be out of the question and that our dates would be very low-key when it came to public appearances. But he said that we've both been holed up in his apartment (or mine) too much nowadays and it's driving him bat s*** crazy. I told him that in lieu of what's been happening with David that I wasn't too keen on going out in public right now. We don't know if David's texts (that he's coming back to the city) are true or not. But Jason said that he was tired of living in fear of Dave and that we can't let him control our lives. So he felt that even though this whole gay life deal is very much new to him and that he still has DL hang-ups/fears he's willing to put them aside to out with me and have a good time.

He also said that at the club we could just hold the wall..."we don't have to dance or anything like that."

Personally, I think he is moving a bit too fast in terms of coming out publicly with me. I mean, how will that look: two muscular dudes just "hanging out" with no hot chicks on their arms? People are going to automatically assume that we're gaaaaaaaaaay. I don't have a problem with that because Jason is a beautiful man and nothing to be ashamed of. Besides, I've had more than my full share of dancing on bar tables in public.

But I'm not sure he's really prepared his mind and heart for what it really means to be out with a man in a social setting like that. Watching TV shows (we've been watching Season 2 of this absolutely terrible show called Queer As Folk--his choice ) are not enough--they don't tell the full story. I don't want him to embrace the full gay elements of his bisexuality just for the sake of making me happy. It's like a butterfly that is pried from its cocoon too early: it needs time to fully incubate and grow before beating itself out of that cocoon to fly. If the process is ******ed or premature the butterfly will not take flight properly.

Social adjustment in gay life is not always easy and considering how he is so skurred of bumping into another cop, I'm just not sure it's a good idea to do this so soon. I know relationships are all about sacrifice and give-and-take but he's already been through a lot with me and I don't want him to embark on something else that he's not ready for just for me. The last thing I need to happen right now is for Jason to flip out on me later if he runs into someone he knows or a cop, etc. and suddenly regrets his actions. At this point, he isn't exactly bubbling over with "gay pride" if you know what I mean. He won't even say that he's gay. That word never comes out of his mouth in reference to himself...only to others. As far as he's concerned, "he loves the ladies but he also digs guys." Going to a club like the one we're talking about would certainly put him more in the gay column. But at the same time, who the hell am I to hold him back?

Lately he's been changing the way he looks too. Initially, he was a little more conservative with his clothing, although he always had great style. But lately he's wearing clothes that better fit him: like fitted, tapered button down shirts, etc. that accentuate his chest and huge arms and slacks and jeans that hang off him a lot better. He is trying to go for this tailored model look. Don't get me wrong: all the changes are great (dude looks Hot. As. F***.), but I also kinda liked the original version of Jason...the more shy and reserved "Clark Kent" version. During the holiday I showed him pictures of David (so he could get a better idea of what our stalker looks like). Now it seems he's kicked up his style levels a few notches to better match David's sophisticated style (even though he obviously doesn't have the acumen to shop Lord & Taylor or Bloomingdales, etc.).

But the biggest change? When we first started talking he had a mustache and goatee. But now he's shaved off his stache and goatee but is keeping the little bottom lip tuft thing only. And today he came home and I saw that he has dyed his hair to a much darker brown and changed the style to a shorter cut. He's wearing studs in both ears now.

And he wants to go to a club. With me.

I dunno about this.

Is it really a bad thing? It's winter, maybe he's just getting a little cabin fever and wants to get out. Also, maybe he figures at a gay bar he's less likely to run into a cop buddy that will have a problem with him being with another guy.

 

[AndThePickles]

Eh, I say let Jason have his fun. These are all HIS decisions, and I think that you "holding him back" would only negatively impact things. He can't blame you for things that he chooses to do.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Is it really a bad thing? It's winter, maybe he's just getting a little cabin fever and wants to get out. Also, maybe he figures at a gay bar he's less likely to run into a cop buddy that will have a problem with him being with another guy.

That's true. I didn't think of that.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Eh, I say let Jason have his fun. These are all HIS decisions, and I think that you "holding him back" would only negatively impact things. He can't blame you for things that he chooses to do.

I told him I was good to go if that's what he was really down for. He looked surprised when I said that. He said that he expected me to give him a hard time and grill him about what he really wants to do, but I had kept my feelings to myself (sans posting about it here and getting ya'll's imput).

On another note, David sent me another message asking about the two of us meeting with him. This time he included discussing the estate stuff and wrapping up all the financial loose ends. Thusfar I have not replied to either of these text messages.

I am very torn about this. We do NOT want to meet with David. Jase is 100% against it. And I agree with him because clearly this cat has checked out on us and gone slightly mental. I totally expect him to have another ulterior motive. But at the same time we do need to work out these financial business aspects because the more they are allowed to linger on, the longer I'm paying bills/notes for homes, cars, etc. that will probably no longer be in my name. For example, a percentage of my check every month electronically and automatically goes towards the note on the house we have in Los Angeles. Well, if David is going to be living there and I'm never gonna step foot in that house again there's no purpose in me paying on that. And we've been broke up since the summer so that's a lot of money that technically he owes me retroactively. This was his choice.

Again, I am trying to stay out of litigation with David. He's too cunning and I can't have him holding this over my head...waaaaaaaaaaaay too much $$$ is involved.

 

[Eggyman]

Arse on th^t. You pick up sticks with that beast?!

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Arse on th^t. You pick up sticks with that beast?!

Not quite as well as Jean Claude Van Damme could, but I hold my own.

 

[Eggyman]

I'm pretty sure you could hold more than your own with that.

Bravo.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

I told him I was good to go if that's what he was really down for. He looked surprised when I said that. He said that he expected me to give him a hard time and grill him about what he really wants to do, but I had kept my feelings to myself (sans posting about it here and getting ya'll's imput).

On another note, David sent me another message asking about the two of us meeting with him. This time he included discussing the estate stuff and wrapping up all the financial loose ends. Thusfar I have not replied to either of these text messages.

I am very torn about this. We do NOT want to meet with David. Jase is 100% against it. And I agree with him because clearly this cat has checked out on us and gone slightly mental. I totally expect him to have another ulterior motive. But at the same time we do need to work out these financial business aspects because the more they are allowed to linger on, the longer I'm paying bills/notes for homes, cars, etc. that will probably no longer be in my name. For example, a percentage of my check every month electronically and automatically goes towards the note on the house we have in Los Angeles. Well, if David is going to be living there and I'm never gonna step foot in that house again there's no purpose in me paying on that. And we've been broke up since the summer so that's a lot of money that technically he owes me retroactively. This was his choice.

Again, I am trying to stay out of litigation with David. He's too cunning and I can't have him holding this over my head...waaaaaaaaaaaay too much $$$ is involved.

Is there anyway to have a 3rd party like an attorney work out all that stuff. As meeting with David in person would probably be a horrible move.

 

[Marx]

I told him I was good to go if that's what he was really down for. He looked surprised when I said that. He said that he expected me to give him a hard time and grill him about what he really wants to do, but I had kept my feelings to myself (sans posting about it here and getting ya'll's imput).

On another note, David sent me another message asking about the two of us meeting with him. This time he included discussing the estate stuff and wrapping up all the financial loose ends. Thusfar I have not replied to either of these text messages.

I am very torn about this. We do NOT want to meet with David. Jase is 100% against it. And I agree with him because clearly this cat has checked out on us and gone slightly mental. I totally expect him to have another ulterior motive. But at the same time we do need to work out these financial business aspects because the more they are allowed to linger on, the longer I'm paying bills/notes for homes, cars, etc. that will probably no longer be in my name. For example, a percentage of my check every month electronically and automatically goes towards the note on the house we have in Los Angeles. Well, if David is going to be living there and I'm never gonna step foot in that house again there's no purpose in me paying on that. And we've been broke up since the summer so that's a lot of money that technically he owes me retroactively. This was his choice.

Again, I am trying to stay out of litigation with David. He's too cunning and I can't have him holding this over my head...waaaaaaaaaaaay too much $$$ is involved.

I would recommend sending an attorney to meet with David on your behalf. After everything that has happened, I don't think it's wise to meet with him.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Even if I were to elect to retain a 3rd party lawyer to represent me, at some point I would have to meet with the lawyers and David to discuss the terms and sign off on paperwork. You have to have all parties present to work these kinds of things out because communication is essential. I doubt that David is going to retain a laywer of his own since he's one himself. There was a time when I'd be sure he'd be fair in his dealings with me but he is no longer the man I knew so...And obviously if I elected to bring in another lawyer he'd be pissed off that I didn't "trust" him to manage our affairs in a fair manner.

David is close to snapping. I can feel it. And I don't want to antagonize him any more than I have to.

 

[Marx]

Even if I were to elect to retain a 3rd party lawyer to represent me, at some point I would have to meet with the lawyers and David to discuss the terms and sign off on paperwork. You have to have all parties present to work these kinds of things out because communication is essential. I doubt that David is going to retain a laywer of his own since he's one himself. There was a time when I'd be sure he'd be fair in his dealings with me but he is no longer the man I knew so...And obviously if I elected to bring in another lawyer he'd be pissed off that I didn't "trust" him to manage our affairs in a fair manner.

David is close to snapping. I can feel it. And I don't want to antagonize him any more than I have to.

Then you're between a rock and a hard place man. This is basically a divorce proceeding...it should be completely acceptable to have your own attorney present.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

I agree, you need to get a lawyer involved if it's at all possible. Even if you still have to meet David in person, it should be with a lawyer.

As far as David snapping goes, it seems like he's already done that. I don't know if he can really snap any further. The point? You need to get this guy out of your life as soon as possible, but as long as you have these financial ties to him, you're going to be tied to him.

You need to get this **** taken care of once and for all. Then you can take the action needed to get him out of your life for good, whether that's filing charges against him, or doing something like you and Jason moving to a new location (if that's at all possible - I'm not necesarily saying that's what you need to do, just putting it out there as an example).

David has lost all trust, so screw him if he gets his feelings hurt over you bringing a lawyer to this. Damn right you don't trust him, dude is stalking you and Jason. There is nothing to trust about David, and your dealings with him from this point on are strictly business. Get this crap taken care of and get him out of your life for good, via any means necessary.