HBO's True Detective - Part 2

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While I'm not among those who thought Season 2 was a total piece of ****, I do think that having more time between seasons might allow Pizzolatto to craft a tighter Season 3.

Noirs are meant to be labyrinthine, sure, but the best noirs still generally guide you along in such a way that you can at least kind of make sense of the story (hell, I hate to make the comparison after complaining about people doing the same thing, but Season 1 is a pretty solid example of this).

Even something as ridiculously complicated as The Big Sleep sort of makes sense in the end.

TL;DR I can wait a couple years if it needs it.
 
"I thought that the script was bad, so I didn’t do it."

Haha :D
 
Season 2 wasn't as great as season 1, but I wouldn't say that it was "bad."
 
Ehhh... it was bad-adjacent. :o
 
I love James Frain in everything i've seen him in, but his accent sucked in this. :(
 
Season 2 wasn't as great as season 1, but I wouldn't say that it was "bad."

In the article Cronenberg is just referring to the first episode, I don't share his opinion though -the first episode was pretty decent. Looking back, now that we can see season 2 as a whole, I'd probably go so far as to call it bad overall. Or if not, at least not good.
 
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Season 2 wasn't as great as season 1, but I wouldn't say that it was "bad."
Ehhh... it was bad-adjacent. :o

"Bad adjacent"
That's a good way to put it
I think it's near bad. Very close to it. Like I guess I would give it a 6/10. Tops.

Below a 6 to me is bad.

And that's not even comparing it to season 1. If I was comparing it to season 1, I would give it like a 4.

They really just dropped the ball with this.
 
Didn't get a chance to post on the ending...but it was uneven just like the whole season was.

Hope Pizz gets at least two more episodes to work with next season. More to work with fleshing out the story. Especially since this season was disappointing. Needs to cut down on main characters and trying to put too much in their back stories.

Having two main protagonists in season 1 was perfect....this season scrunching 3 protags and 1 gangster and including all their backstories just ended up hurting the overall narrative and flow. Pizz can't do that again next season. He tried to do too much in season 2.
 
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TrueDetective season 3 up in the air as @HBO inks deal with Nic Pizzolatto through 2018 http://bit.ly/1l3BwEv


HBO has inked an overall deal with “True Detective” creator Nic Pizzolatto through 2018, Variety has learned. Under the new pact, a number of new projects from Pizzolatto are being considered, including future installments of “True Detective,” though a third season is still not a sure thing.


However, the deal paves the way for a go-ahead decision for another season of “True Detective.” HBO has been looking to make a change in the way the show is run, given the critical response to the second season, and has presented Pizzolatto with a number of options.

Those options include: him working with a staff of writers, having a new showrunner come in, as well as him going it alone again. In all scenarios, he would remain an exec producer.
HBO has been pressing Pizzolatto for an answer so they can move forward with production on the show.
The breakout season of “True Detective,” starring Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson, quickly garnered critical acclaim and become a pop culture phenomenon, earning Emmy nominations for outstanding drama series, writing and lead actor for both McConaughey and Harrelson.
The sophomore season, starring Vince Vaughn, Colin Farrell and Rachel McAdams, has been reviewed as disappointing, slammed by both critics and fans.
“Those expecting anything approaching the magic conjured by the original Matthew McConaughey-Woody Harrelson pairing should immediately temper their enthusiasm for ‘True Detective’s’ second season, Variety‘s Brian Lowry said in his Season 2 review. “Although generally watchable, the inspiration that turned the first into an obsession for many seems to have drained out of writer Nic Pizzolatto’s prose, at least three hours into this eight-episode run.”
Despite less-than-stellar reception, “True Detective’s second run still held up numbers for HBO, as Season 2 ended up averaging more same-night viewers (2.61 million) than Season 1 (2.33 million). But that was due to a big tune-in for the first couple of weeks of Season 2. The finale of the second season drew 2.7 million, while the conclusion of the first drew a series-best 3.52 million, according to Nielsen.”I am thrilled to continue our relationship with Nic, as he is one of the most exceptionally talented writers and producers working today,” said Michael Lombardo, president of HBO programming. “I look forward to seeing where his unique creative vision will take us next.”
Pizzolatto has been under an overall deal with the premium cabler since 2014, the year “True Detective” debuted.
 
I still want a third season. :(
 
I still want a third season. :(

We'll probably get one Squeeks if Pizzalato want's one. I can't believe he'd sign a deal with HBO if they weren't going to give the go ahead for TD season 3. Negotiations are still on going I bet.
 
I don't understand any reluctance on HBO's part. The good thing about an anthology series is that a bum season in theory shouldn't kill the deal. :(
 
If both The Leftovers and True Detective get cancelled I'm going to be very upset.
 
Me, too. :( These shows aren't like anything else.
 
I finally watched season two a few weeks back. It started off uneven and boring but it picked up, then kind of bounced around but in the end it was not the trainwreck I'd heard. More like a minor fender-bender with some scratched paint.
 
2018? It's very much time...

Although the second season isn't better than first, still have a great history.
I've a big rejection of Colin Ferrel, but, he don't commits the developing and is ok, as well as Michele Monaghan.

I guess that the major motive that people don't like this serie is because:
1- Hype - The first season was the best thing in the tv together with Breaking Bad in the 2014. Never they will repeat the dou McConaughey and Woody Harrelson;
2 - The first and second episode aren't interesting, very confused and some people bad utilized, as Paul and Frank (Vince).

But, the middle to the end, the serie best very much. And the end is very nice too.
 
The Leftovers turned it around in S2. I dropped S1 because it was so inconsistent, but the rave reviews about S2 already has made me plan a binge watch during the holidays. I think if it can make a strong awards push, the Leftovers will stay. The Leftovers turn around gives me hope that Pizzolatto can turn it around too. (Hell if Lindelof of all can do it, I'm sure Pizzolatto can)

I also hope TD will get a new start. There's plenty of potential still since it's an anthology. I dunno what else Nic would write though. Unless he just wants to write about Southern Gothic.
 
The Leftovers turned it around in S2. I dropped S1 because it was so inconsistent, but the rave reviews about S2 already has made me plan a binge watch during the holidays. I think if it can make a strong awards push, the Leftovers will stay. The Leftovers turn around gives me hope that Pizzolatto can turn it around too. (Hell if Lindelof of all can do it, I'm sure Pizzolatto can)

I also hope TD will get a new start. There's plenty of potential still since it's an anthology. I dunno what else Nic would write though. Unless he just wants to write about Southern Gothic.


A crime drama/horror that is a regular show just taking place in the south would be awesome from him.
 
Loved Season 1, never finished 2 (although I did really like Farrell's character).

What do you guys think would be good settings for future seasons? I'd like them to be more esoteric cities/towns that haven't been overused in media. Somewhere like my hometown of Olympia, Washington or Tacoma about 40 miles north would be nice. Or somewhere in Idaho, that's beautiful country.
 
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