BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - - Part 21

[Fallen Angel]

Its' the episode he featured on for Driven to Extreme. It's a two years old pic as well.

 

[I Am The Knight]

 

[Manofplastic]

that must be how the knightmare starts.

 

[Silliminite]

that must be how the knightmare starts.

 

[I Am The Knight]

 

[Nemeres]

So, we could be viewing Cavill & Adams in a 2003 Superman film with a lot of insane stuffs from Abrams' script like Krypton not exploding, Lex Luthor being a Kryptonian, Superman died and resurrected, Jor-El committing ritual suicide to join his dead son, etc. You can thank Harry from AICN for leaking this script and getting fans outraged over this blasphemy. lol

Those are the crap parts. There's about 80% more script beyond that, which is pretty damn great. Entire portions at regular intervals from that script would have made for the perfect Supes film. It was Moriarty, Drew McWeeny, who leaked it. Harry actually liked it.

 

[BH/HHH]

Those are the crap parts. There's about 80% more script beyond that, which is pretty damn great. Entire portions at regular intervals from that script would have made for the perfect Supes film. It was Moriarty, Drew McWeeny, who leaked it. Harry actually liked it.

Also I think people forget with Flyby no one has read what was close to the final drafts only early versions. Tbh had they fixed a few things that would have been a great Superman film. It's a shame they didn't get JJ to direct back then really. Although I wouldn't want to lose MOS/BvS with Cavill but we could have maybe had a definitive Superman trilogy by now.

Actually Harry didn't like it it was only after a conversation with JJ that he came around on the idea as JJ had told him that was an early draft.

 

[Nemeres]

Also I think people forget with Flyby no one has read what was close to the final drafts only early versions. Tbh had they fixed a few things that would have been a great Superman film. It's a shame they didn't get JJ to direct back then really. Although I wouldn't want to lose MOS/BvS with Cavill but we could have maybe had a definitive Superman trilogy by now.

Actually Harry didn't like it it was only after a conversation with JJ that he came around on the idea as JJ had told him that was an early draft.

He wrote two entries about it, one after his talk with Abrams, another after reading it himself. He had tons of praise and a few major gripes. The second draft is way less controversial, yeah, but it does lose some of the very cool interactions found in the first one, so further rewrites could have just kept diluting the product rather than improving it, imo.

But even if it had been made, it would've probably been a McG or Brett Ratner joint rather than an Abrams one, so the film itself might have been doomed from the start. Abrams' 1st draft, however, deserves fond remembering.

 

[Superchan]

Also I think people forget with Flyby no one has read what was close to the final drafts only early versions. Tbh had they fixed a few things that would have been a great Superman film. It's a shame they didn't get JJ to direct back then really. Although I wouldn't want to lose MOS/BvS with Cavill but we could have maybe had a definitive Superman trilogy by now.

Well in the later drafts Jor-el and superman's brother were the villains (yeah you heard right!) and Lex would've been the great evil of the universe that superman had to beat in the end of the trilogy!
Like I said plot wise the film was very silly but JJ always excelled with characters and dialogue and as a superman movie it would've been much better than MOS.

 

[BH/HHH]

He wrote two entries about it, one after his talk with Abrams, another after reading it himself. He had tons of praise and a few major gripes. The second draft is way less controversial, yeah, but it does lose some of the very cool interactions found in the first one, so further rewrites could have just kept diluting the product rather than improving it, imo.

But even if it had been made, it would've probably been a McG or Brett Ratner joint rather than an Abrams one, so the film itself might have been doomed from the start. Abrams' 1st draft, however, deserves fond remembering.

Ah you are right sit my apologies, I only know what I read later.

I actually don't think McG would have done a bad job and I actually think of Ratner had everything set for him he'd be fine himself tbh. I just think if you fix stuff like Krypton not exploding etc. the film would have been fine.

Well in the later drafts Jor-el and superman's brother were the villains (yeah you heard right!) and Lex would've been the great evil of the universe that superman had to beat in the end of the trilogy!
Like I said plot wise the film was very silly but JJ always excelled with characters and dialogue and as a superman movie it would've been much better than MOS.

I've never heard those aspects before.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I have a hard time believing a Superman movie directed my McG or Ratner would have been superior to MOS, regardless of who wrote the script. Say what you want about Snyder but he's better than either of those guys.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Gotta agree there. Especially on Brett Ratner. While i think he's not the best director around, i feel if there was any comic book property he could probably really knock out the park it'd be blue beetle/booster gold.

 

[jaymes_e06]

Umm no... He is a hack that doesn't know how to make sound decisions.

 

[I Am The Knight]

 

[RadioSha]

I like to think Snyder as a "Michael Bay" with artistic integrity.

I hope he keeps growing and doesn't cannibalize his own schtick too often.

 

[Herolee10]

In some ways, Snyder is like Michael Bay...on in Snyder's case, rather than sexualizing the female body (whether they're underage or not), he does it with the male body.lol

 

[BH/HHH]

I have a hard time believing a Superman movie directed my McG or Ratner would have been superior to MOS, regardless of who wrote the script. Say what you want about Snyder but he's better than either of those guys.

I agree but I thing both could have delivered a good Superman movie still the only problem I have is Ratner seems like a yes man and McG well let's just say his entry in the Terminator franchise was terrible ha ha. Snyder is definitely superior. I was tbh more talking if everything was ready for them to go they'd probably do a decent job directing it.

 

[Rowsdower!]

It's possible, but I still think they would find ways to screw it up. The only movie of Ratner's I've seen that was mostly tolerable was Red Dragon and that was over 13 years ago. McG has NEVER made a good movie, even when he's had talents like Christian Bale and Tom Hardy to work with. I think that, at best, their movies would have been average. Plus, you have to consider that production value on superhero movies back then isn't what it is now. The Raimi Spider-Man films and the X-Men movies were good but I somehow feel like Superman would have ended up wearing a cheap-looking plastic suit and the special effects would have looked goofy.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's possible, but I still think they would find ways to screw it up. The only movie of Ratner's I've seen that was mostly tolerable was Red Dragon and that was over 13 years ago. McG has NEVER made a good movie, even when he's had talents like Christian Bale and Tom Hardy to work with. I think that, at best, their movies would have been average. Plus, you have to consider that production value on superhero movies back then isn't what it is now. The Raimi Spider-Man films and the X-Men movies were good but I somehow feel like Superman would have ended up wearing a cheap-looking plastic suit and the special effects would have looked goofy.

Probably so, the big thing for me is I don't think either would challenge the studios on big in movie decisions in terms of story etc. Well the suit they suit going to use was this one, and although it's got an armoured look I like it a lot. It's far better than this Superman Returns suit IMO.

 

[morningmimosa]

Oh yeah, no doubt that it's way better than the abomination worn in SR. There's quite a New 52 vibe to it.

 

[Lily Adler]

Need animated Superman series... NOW!

 

[Captain Shazam]

These last pics look so good. It really makes you want to see them animated.

 

[BH/HHH]

Oh yeah, no doubt that it's way better than the abomination worn in SR. There's quite a New 52 vibe to it.

I also think it shows that a smaller S can work

 

[egg]

i like big s's and i can not lie...

 

[BH/HHH]

i like big s's and i can not lie...

Haha me too mate but I just meant the Flyby little S like the George Reeves little S works. Whereas the Superman Returns one doesn't. Overall though I'd always pick a big S any day of the week but I do like that Flyby costume.

What's interesting though is the costume that Cavill tested in for Flyby has a larger S and I think that one might be one made later than the one I posted above although I could be wrong.