BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - - - - - - - Part 26

I'd personally like if they kept Clark dead. Storywise, it makes sense that he can now finally stop hiding and just be himself. That would be a happier character. But I'm not a comic reader. It's also an open to bash the movie whether it's good or not.
 
Um Clark is who he is. The way Zack seems to portray it Superman is just a normal guy who can fly. He is equal parts Clark Kal El and Superman.
 
Nominated for Razzie Award - Worst Actor. Can't blame them.
 
Nominated for Razzie Award - Worst Actor. Can't blame them.

I bet they give Cavill and Affleck both worst actor,and another tie for Leto and Eisenberg. I expect it gets every Razzie, Madea movie out there or not.
None of it deserved. Leto is transparent hate cuz he's barely in the movie. People( overall) hD positive opinion on Battfleck but now a razzie for worst actor? Transparent again. It all is.
 
Nominated for Razzie Award - Worst Actor. Can't blame them.

Robert de Niro and Julia Roberts also got worst actor/actress nominations, which is proof that sometimes the Razzies are just attention-seeking.
 
If you saw DeNiro in Dirty Grandpa you'd know he deserves his nom. Even good actors turn in crappy performances once in their careers. Jeremy Irons' recent performance in Assassin's Creed was horrendous.

Cavill definitely deserves his nom. He was wooden as a forest in BvS.
 
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If you saw DeNiro in Dirty Grandpa you'd know he deserves his nom. Even good actors turn in crappy performances once in their careers. Jeremy Irons' recent performance in Assassin's Creed was horrendous.

Cavill definitely deserves his nom. He was wooden as a forest in BvS.

I can understand people criticizing Eisenberg and Gadot, but Cavill gave the best performance in BvS. Henry is one of the greatest castings in CBM history.
 
Saying he gave the best performance in BvS is like saying someone gave the best performance in a Michael Bay movie. It's not saying much because the acting standard across the movie is low. His performance is still wooden.
 
Saying he gave the best performance in BvS is like saying someone gave the best performance in a Michael Bay movie. It's not saying much because the acting standard across the movie is low. His performance is still wooden.

We'll just have to disagree there as well. BvS isn't perfect, mostly due to the liberties taken with Luthor and Wonder Woman, but it was ambitious and intricate. The supporting roles were superb and Affleck, the person about whom I was most concerned, was decent. Watching Supes declare Earth his home, tell Lois that she was his reason for being the man that he had become, and picking up a weapon that was killing him to kill an unstoppable monster prior to dying just dripped with comic book goodness.
 
I have to disagree that he was wooden, I thought he played a conflicted Superman really well. I felt all the emotions with him and I know others that have too. The scene where he says goodbye to Lois chokes me up every single time.

Each to their own of course but I think saying he deserves a razzie is ridiculous personally.
 
He's very wooden in a few scenes. I say that as a fan, I'd put it down to the writing and director more than the actor
 
Can someone tell me Superman's Motivation in this film, what does he want.
 
Why does Superman need motivation? He is simply Superman he wants to do the right thing. I really think people just want to throw any critiscsm they can at films these days.
 
Nominated for Razzie Award - Worst Actor. Can't blame them.

My heart honestly goes out to him. He's arguably received a bigger stiffening than Affleck has and for far less money, yet he's always remained a professional and all smiles.

He actually comes across as a really likeable person and it sucks seeing him get derided like this. At least Affleck will be able to ride out the wave if things go sour...I'd be genuinely fearful that Cavill's career wouldn't.
 
I liked Cavill in MOS. But found him stiff in BvS. I put the blame on the material. I don't think there's a lot for him to do as an actor with the scenes and little dialogue he was given.
 
Can someone tell me Superman's Motivation in this film, what does he want.

He wants to fulfill the dream of his parents as a savior. He wants to save lives and to be trusted by the people of Earth. That's why he gets so upset when Lois questions him doing so in the beginning; he does not initially understand that the world may mistrust him when he acts to save lives without their say so. That's why him paying attention to the "media montage" is important, that's why him going to the hearing is a major turning point for his character, and that's why he questions his very purpose and whether he should still try be Earth's savior when the world "turns" on him after he lets them down.

As Clark, he clearly wants to live a relatively normal life with Lois. He doesn't just want to protect her, but their existence as a couple. He cares about her more than other issues, and wants that relationship above everything else ("You are my world"). He has to balance this personal need with his mission, and ultimately decides his mission is worth more than both his own happiness, and his own relationship.

Also as Clark, he's a reporter, so he wants the truth, specifically with regard to Batman. In general, he's crusading for the little guy, especially in the Ultimate Cut.

Clark/Superman actually has a fairly relevant and interesting set of character arcs in BVS, they're not just not drawn very clearly. With the exception of his goals as a reporter and how he feels about Lois, the filmmakers expect you to make sense of Clark's actions and the conversations others have with him to draw conclusions about his motivations and how he's changing as a character, and don't have him talking about how he's feeling much.
 
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Can someone tell me Superman's Motivation in this film, what does he want.

He wants to figure out who Superman is, how Superman relates to the world, and how much Superman should interact with his life as Clark Kent. He wants to fulfill the dreams of his fathers and be the hope for humanity Lois believes he is, but he's not sure how to do it when his heartfelt efforts don't always have the intended effect. Through his investigation into Batman, Clark is wrestling with the question of how a hero makes choices. Choosing which stories to cover is a microcosm of the conflict heroes encounter when they have to choose what crises require their intervention and the nature of that intervention. Both Clark and Superman are motivated to answer these questions: What is Superman? Must there be a Superman?
 
I liked Cavill in MOS. But found him stiff in BvS. I put the blame on the material. I don't think there's a lot for him to do as an actor with the scenes and little dialogue he was given.
they should have made him like deadpool, talking, talking and non stop talking and swearing about how he feel and think. as people / audiences today won't understand it if he didn't talk on it and put everything onto the wall.

people hate what they don't understand. start talking, superman!!!

lol
 
I think Henry had more Superman moments in MOS especially when he was dealing with the military. Unfortunately in BvS he didn't converse a lot.
 
If you saw DeNiro in Dirty Grandpa you'd know he deserves his nom. Even good actors turn in crappy performances once in their careers. Jeremy Irons' recent performance in Assassin's Creed was horrendous.

Cavill definitely deserves his nom. He was wooden as a forest in BvS.
The DeNiro/Dirty Grandpa talk is ridiculous. To me, he gave the same performance he's been giving in every comedy that I've seen him in, in the last 15 years. And I think people are way too hard on him in that movie. I actually thought he and his one liners were funny in DG. Even if the movie itself was the same old crap.

I only watched the first 20 minutes of Assassins Creed, so just judging what I saw, Irons seemed OK to me. Just Itons being Irons. Easy pay check. Unless he was over acting later in the film??

Irons and DeNiro could put out the laziest performance and it will still entertain me more than Cavills wooden performances as Superman.
 
Why does Superman need motivation? He is simply Superman he wants to do the right thing. I really think people just want to throw any critiscsm they can at films these days.
All characters need motivation.
 

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