"Here We Go Again" Part 4: New Welling As Superman Rumors?

[Lighthouse]

Did this thread just travel back in time?

 

[epc11223]

listen up wargod and roach.................. you two are so extremely right!! i couldn't agree more! some people on here think that welling should have gotten the role because he "deserves" it, but fail to realize that he doesn't really seem to want the part. he's had ten years of smallville, and while he's appreciative of what the show has done for his career, he seems more than ready to be behind the scenes as a director/producer. in that video of comic con people on here make it seems like his "smile" left and was disgusted that he had to wear the superman returns suit, but the only time he was really happy was when john schneider came to the podium. it's not like he was so ecstatic and then all of a sudden was pissed. if people watch the video again, he really was indifferent. not happy, not sad, but definitely overjoyed when john came up. in a recent interview with the producers they spoke about having to "convince" tom to wear the suit.

nothing i've really seen, or read about tom welling indicates that he wants the part of superman. from the beginning, the producers both past and present have said that this is supposed to be a prequel to the donner movies. so it makes sense that the suits they considered were from the reeve and routh movies. while i liked reeve's suit, it does seem outdated. even routh's suit is a bit outdated. well not outdated, but had mixed/negative reactions so even in this years premiere they altered it a bit.

i just dont understand why people don't seem to understand that while smallville has been an awesome ride, no one actor is ever bigger than the roles they portray. singer has even said that these characters have been around 70 plus years and they will be around long after these actors/directors work on them. if the next reboot flops, than in twenty years they'll try to reboot it again (god i hope not that long). and if you love smallville, lets hope that they go into direct to dvds or tv specials. but it's just sad that you can't enjoy other incarnations. i know my number one priority is superman. whether it's routh, reeve, cavill, or welling; i just hope that it's an enjoyable performance. while cavill wasn't my number 1 choice, i think it's unfair to say that the movie is going to be terrible without seeing anything about it. how about enjoying the ride and not being so negative?

 

[vantheman77]

TW will have known for 10 years that the show will end with Clark wearing the suit and fly with it. He may be relieved to not play Superman for the reboot movie, but he still has to end the show wearing the suit, whether he likes it or not. If TW does wear the suit, it will only be between several seconds to a minute. Even he said it himself that it's going to be the last thing people will see when the series ends. I think he's sticking to that position.

The SR suit in the FoS will not be worn by TW as it's a prop. I also agree that budget is not an issue either as they have made costumes for other DCU heroes and villains, the same should happen for Superman. The producers who bought the SR suit couldn't seriously think that TW will wear it as it's made for Routh.

 

[Mike22]

It's really quite simple. Watching how he tends to dodge any Superman related question as if it was frikkin kryptonite, and he in general has never expressed any kind of desire to actually WANT to go over to the movies, it shouldn't be hard to figure out that the man simply does not to put those tights on. Even at comic con when asked about wearing the costume he immediately replied some to effect of " it would have to be the last shot at the very end" or something like that. I truly believe that had Tom Welling wanted to be movie Superman, he would have gotten it, and smallville would have ended a long time ago. But he seems like the type that worries a lot, maybe he feels he's not a good enough actor and would get tons of crap for it, maybe he just realised that such a high profile movie would forever label him superman and ending up always getting similar parts in other movies. I guess he thought it was a safe thing to do smallville since it was superman without the suit, and it was a very clever way of getting the best of such a popular character without resorting to wearing a suit he seems to wanna avoid.

And this isn't just speculating, I've heard some very interesting stuff from a member around here that's actually been hanging out with Schneider and Marsters at different events and after a while they spoke openly about this stuff. Welling could've been Superman IF he wanted to and Smallville would have ended in the fifth season, but he refused so I kinda changed my mind about him in these last few months.
If he doesn't want to do it, that's fine, I understand. I just have my reasons to think that we're not gonna be seeing much of him in the suit, if at all.

 

[vantheman77]

With the casting of Henry Cavill as the new movie Superman, TW should've let go of those worries. He's only going to wear the suit in the final several seconds or minute of wearing the suit. TW must have been glad that he will not play Superman in the reboot and that this will allow him to pursue non-Superman projects.

Also I've heard rumors that there will be a CGI Superman in the reboot movie and that Henry Cavill may not wear the suit either.

 

[Mike22]

One could argue that he also felt a great deal of relief when Routh was cast as Superman, but we all know how that turned out.
I think Welling just doesn't wanna by typecast, and has admitted to this openly in a radio interview, where he himself said that if he just managed to stay away from the tights, that he might actually stand a chance after Smallville.
As much as I would have loved for him to actually be movie Superman, it painfully clear that he doesn't want to do it. And it's fine, really, he's been doing it for 10 years and undoubtedly will always be my favorite, no matter how well Henry may do. I have a lot of memories from the show, and watching earlier episodes is like time traveling, it takes me back to what was going on in my life when I watched them and it's a great nostalgic feeling.
It's gonna be sad to let go of Smallville because I'm so used to having it on week after week, year after year, so there will definitely be an empty place after Smallville that not even a two hour big budget Superman movie will be able to fill.
I can't help but wonder though, just what kind of projects Welling will pursue, I know he said he was going over to hellcats right after Smallville, but he also said he would act.

Would be funny if he made it big time and then played another Superhero, lol.

Oh and as for the CGI Superman suit, I think that was debunked.

 

[roach]

To be honest I dont think the show is gonna end with him in the tights

 

[Nave 'Torment']

ARE THEY KILLING OFF CHLOE?! Is that MANCHESTER BLACK?! nOooOooo

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

On a side note, much like Routh and Singer, Snyder's Superman already has his own blog and Snyder's FB & Twitter pages have been left with several protests: http://snyderssupermansucks.blogspot.com/

That is beyond sad, and completely unoriginal. At least the Singerssupermansucks site was funny and ya know, actually came out when the movie had been made.

Cavill is British, big deal. So is Bale. Robert Downey Jr. is an American playing Sherlock Holmes. Get over it.

 

[darkzombiemutt]

Really sad.

 

[vantheman77]

I've also felt that if the show doesn't end with TW wearing the suit, they'd do it either with CGI or a body double.

 

[Webhead2006]

Just because tom wasn't cast or didn't audition for us we don't know. Doesn't mean he wouldn't want to play superman. Also I serious doubt routh was ever really an option at all. Since snyder sipaid when he was offically on board he was going in a new direction/fresh/not connection to past. Which is what superman needed. A clean break and set back and clean slate it all. Epc I don't evdr recall the producers saying sv was prequel to donner movies. sure could be taken that within first 4 yrs. But then the show grew and became its own dam take on the legend and used many different stuff of different eras of the comics while yes borrowing elements from donner/reeve superman. But its been its own thing for a long time.

Also was just reading a cinematical article about the lois potentials:
http://blog.moviefone.com/2011/02/01/superman-kristen-stewart-lois-lane/

That crazy cgi superman/suit rumor has poped up again. I really hope it gets debunked. Cause it still would be silly to do. Why bother to do the film if half the time the actor would just be cgi and all that right. Now gl is a differenct case due to it works for character and his powers from ring. Plus it does go against what snyder/nolan said when rumor first came out saying they were against stuff like that. Also the article says they were looking to make cgi thing resemble reeve. Which during cavill press release snyder clearly pointed out he wasn't going for the same old again. So I do hope this rumor gets nipped in the butt soon.

 

[roach]

Just because tom wasn't cast or didn't audition for us we don't know. Doesn't mean he wouldn't want to play superman. Also I serious doubt routh was ever really an option at all. Since snyder sipaid when he was offically on board he was going in a new direction/fresh/not connection to past.

Snyder also said Routh would get a chance...my take is Routh didnt want to.

Welling not auditioning is because of two reasons: he didnt want to play Superman or they didnt want him to play Superman. My inclination is if they offered a look to Routh the same can be said for Welling....which means he didnt take it...which means he doesnt want to play Superman

 

[vantheman77]

What I don't want to see at the end of the series finale is a red-blue blur flying streak because we've had that in both Salvation and Homecoming. We certainly don't need a shirt rip either because we've had that in Warrior.

 

[AgentPat]

Snyder also said Routh would get a chance...my take is Routh didnt want to.

Welling not auditioning is because of two reasons: he didnt want to play Superman or they didnt want him to play Superman. My inclination is if they offered a look to Routh the same can be said for Welling....which means he didnt take it...which means he doesnt want to play Superman

Why do you keep saying this when Welling was asked the question last summer in an ON CAMERA interview and said, "I've always been open to the idea?" Twice! Stop spouting bullcrap. We've known since Snyder came on board that they were going in a new direction with new actors and a new story. Read: reboot. Routh had the same chances of landing the role in Snyder's film as Welling: zero. Move on folks. Please?

 

[Webhead2006]

I don't really think a quick scene/flash would cut it. Really we seen it already plently of times. And they know the fans need/deserve to have something grander then that. So something like that would just be a huge copout. I do hope we get a satisfying end with the show and clark as superman.

Roach if I recall the interview where snyder said routh was an option was confirmed to be utter bs made up from the uk the sun or some other tabloid over there.

 

[vantheman77]

I don't really think a quick scene/flash would cut it. Really we seen it already plently of times. And they know the fans need/deserve to have something grander then that. So something like that would just be a huge copout. I do hope we get a satisfying end with the show and clark as superman.

Roach if I recall the interview where snyder said routh was an option was confirmed to be utter bs made up from the uk the sun or some other tabloid over there.

Look back to Crusade in the way Clark flew under the Kryptonian influence. I can picture something like that with the suit.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Once and for all stop all the crap about Welling not wanting to be or play Superman !
http://theflickcast.com/2010/07/27/...y-becoming-superman-on-smallville/#more-44350

 

[The Caped Knight]

'Superman': Clark Kent's been cast. Who should play Lois Lane?


My first choice was also Anne Hathaway but since she been casted as Selina Kyle/Catwoman. My second choice is Olivia Wilde (she really impressed me in Tron:Legacy) I think she'd be awesome as Lois.

 

[RakuMon]

I was wondering how you were gonna weigh in on the Lois casting.

I like Olivia Wilde too (though I thought she'd be a killer Selina). But my top choices for Lois are Rashida Jones and Zooey Deschanel. Unconventional for sure, but could be awesome!

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya I like wilde too and there is news from latino review she is now/has tested for the role along the other names mentioned the other day malin akerman,dianna agron, jessica biel, rachael mcadams, and kristen stewart. Though I read stewart is not likely since she doesn't want to get into another franchise series right now, thank god if true. So for me I would be happy with wilde/mcadams/biel if either of the three are picked.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I was wondering how you were gonna weigh in on the Lois casting.

I like Olivia Wilde too (though I thought she'd be a killer Selina). But my top choices for Lois are Rashida Jones and Zooey Deschanel. Unconventional for sure, but could be awesome!

When Anne was first mention as a possibility for the role, I was instantly sold on the idea (Mainly because of how she played Agent 99 in Get Smart which was very Lois like) I can't wait to see her as Catwoman .

 

[KalKai]

Snyder also said Routh would get a chance

Snyder never said it.

http://blogs.coventrytelegraph.net/thegeekfiles/2010/11/zack-snyder-confirms-new-super.html

He hasn't yet thought about casting, he reveals, and is unaware of a campaign to get Brandon Routh back in the role, despite a tabloid report that said Snyder acknowledged the 'groundswell' of support for that actor and would reconsider him.

 

[epc11223]

Once and for all stop all the crap about Welling not wanting to be or play Superman !
http://theflickcast.com/2010/07/27/...y-becoming-superman-on-smallville/#more-44350

i really and truly hate to be rude, as this is going to come off as mean, but you're very naive if you think he means what he says here. i apologize in advance because i don't mean to hurt any feelings. however, with that said; if he really and truly wanted to play the part of superman, it could have happened. i believe he says that he's always been open for a few reasons. 1) he knows that he doesn't have to worry about portraying the character of superman anymore and 2) he doesn't want to upset his fans. it's a very political move on his part. which is smart.

also, for those who said how his demeanor changed and was upset when he found out about the superman returns suit, here in this video he says how fantastic it looks. i mean, if we're going to take his word on everything, you have to look at that as well, right? tom welling may know that he doesn't have to wear it, and thats why he thinks it looks fantastic. there's just so many things that points to tom welling not wanting to put on the tights. right at the end he's extremely jubilant when he says that he's going over to hellcats. i think this can tell us how much he wants to be a producer/director and be more behind the scenes. tom welling started out as a model, but i don't think he ever really imagined being an actor for this long. luckily smallville was a hit and i'm sure he's grateful for the longevity of having steady work, but is now ready to move on to other aspects of the industry. he's really been proactive for himself in directing and then going into producing. becoming an executive producer for smallville and also hellcats.

but from the get go, he's said how he didnt want to see the same old superman show with tights and needed to be reassured that this is a show about clark kent. yes he's said that he's "always been open to the idea", but actions speak louder than words.

 

[Zing79]

i really and truly hate to be rude, as this is going to come off as mean, but you're very naive if you think he means what he says here. i apologize in advance because i don't mean to hurt any feelings. however, with that said; if he really and truly wanted to play the part of superman, it could have happened. i believe he says that he's always been open for a few reasons. 1) he knows that he doesn't have to worry about portraying the character of superman anymore and 2) he doesn't want to upset his fans. it's a very political move on his part. which is smart...

Do you happen to be an expert of some sort? Because I don't want to be a hypocrite when I start calling you names (as you just did) for thinking you were even remotely qualified to deconstruct a persons actual words.

It's one thing to debate in the absence of fact. But you've been handed two links now with little to no ambiguity and yet somehow you're continuing a debate.