The Amazing Spider-Man 2 How should the Goblin look???

[Picard Sisko]

Lol

 

[HUMANIMAL]

see? thats why they choose different approaches;-)

 

[HUMANIMAL]

The fact that they chose for Harry to be the first Goblin really shows that Sony isn't letting the fans run the movie for them.

,after all these years on these boards, im glad they didnt. (except from a few tiny ideas and aproaches)...nah...

we should be happy that something like a movie based on a comic book has become mainstream and still tries to deliever the essence and yet tries to evolve things to a another level.

 

[metaphysician]

I think it's hilarious that freaking Chris Nolan gave us a movie where one of the main villains wears a burlap sack over his face, but we can't get a goblin mask (opinions on Dafoe mask nonwithstanding)

Remember, its not just a matter of "go with mask." Its also a matter of making it look both good, and credible. In the comics, the Green Goblin doesn't look like he has a mask, he looks like that is his face. In a live action movie, that's basically impossible, as masks don't work like that. So you either:

1. Give him a more realistic goblin mask, that looks like a mask

2. Have him spend an hour putting on makeup and prosthetics every time before he goes out to be evil

3. Have him put on a rubber mask, which magically acts like not-a-mask when he wears it, despite it obviously being on the order of a rubber mask

4. Go with something other than a goblin mask ( helmet, mutation, whatever )

 

[Repulsor Blast]

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment RepulsorB...Norman & Harry are father & son. They share the same genetic make up, as would be expected from one's offspring. We see in the trailer, they both seem to have a very similar effect from whatever it is infecting them...obviously, Norman is in a far more advance state or later stage, I should say. So, I don't expect much different in appearance, and they both seem to be displaying, not only similar green splotches on the skin; but also, changes in their iris.

I'm just saying....

harry takes an imperfected serum, whereas norman does not, is my thinking.

@ bold: you don't say?

 

[Picard Sisko]

Even if Norman's transformation is very similar to Harry, HE could end up wearing a mask and having a different costume.

 

[SM71]

Even if Norman's transformation is very similar to Harry, HE could end up wearing a mask and having a different costume.

Exactly. Though I think his will be an updated serum and the mask he hopefully potentially wears is to resemble the "first" goblin

 

[SM71]

Come to think of it, if that's what they do (^), that would be a cool way to give Norman/Green Goblin an actual reason to 'dress' like a goblin

 

[Picard Sisko]

Cool! I agree!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Remember, its not just a matter of "go with mask." Its also a matter of making it look both good, and credible. In the comics, the Green Goblin doesn't look like he has a mask, he looks like that is his face. In a live action movie, that's basically impossible, as masks don't work like that. So you either:

Not really. Movies have often employed "unrealistic" masks that look just like a real face. (The Mission Impossible movies for examples.)

What these masks really are made of is usually silicone prosthetics, but they're presented as being extremely life-like masks. And even then, a full silicone mask can be very lifelike.

Either way, they easily could have presented a Goblin wearing a mask that looked perfectly lifelike and explained it away as an advanced mask (like MI) but just applied prosthetic to the actor.

 

[Venom'sDad]

harry takes an imperfected serum, whereas norman does not, is my thinking.

@ bold: you don't say?

You're missing the point...I'm saying because of their inherent genetics, one expect similar effect, like heart disease, breast cancer, or diabetes that runs in a family, compared to if Roderick Kingsley to the serum, one would expect some differences in effects.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Not really. Movies have often employed "unrealistic" masks that look just like a real face. (The Mission Impossible movies for examples.)

What these masks really are made of is usually silicone prosthetics, but they're presented as being extremely life-like masks. And even then, a full silicone mask can be very lifelike.

Either way, they easily could have presented a Goblin wearing a mask that looked perfectly lifelike and explained it away as an advanced mask (like MI) but just applied prosthetic to the actor.

I agree but this conversation always goes the same way. Next you'll be told that it makes no sense for Norman to have access to an expressive high-tech goblin mask or to wear it because 'he's crazy' isn't a good enough reason for a villain to wear a kooky goblin mask despite 'he's crazy' being Norman Osborn's shtick since day 1.

 

[chaseter]

The fact that they chose for Harry to be the first Goblin really shows that Sony isn't letting the fans run the movie for them.

Is that supposed to instill confidence in people?

 

[chaseter]

Also...Hype101:

Posters see Harry as a Goblin first. Posters create scenarios that Norman will become a better Goblin and kill Gwen. Scenario doesn't pan out. Posters think this was the best decision ever by the film makers.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Also...Hype101:

Posters see Harry as a Goblin first. Posters create scenarios that Norman will become a better Goblin and kill Gwen. Scenario doesn't pan out. Posters think this was the best decision ever by the film makers.

chaseter101: Sony does something, he complains. We get news, he complains.

Is that supposed to instill confidence in people?

You really keep missing the point, don't you?

 

[Repulsor Blast]

You're missing the point...I'm saying because of their inherent genetics, one expect similar effect, like heart disease, breast cancer, or diabetes that runs in a family, compared to if Roderick Kingsley to the serum, one would expect some differences in effects.

not sure if trolling...

i'm saying that if harry had taken a perfected serum, he too would not have physical deformities. but he takes an imperfected serum, hence the changes. norman later acquires a perfected serum, and therefore does not have any negative side effects.

my whole position about the serum rests on the assumption that perfected = no physical deformities.

you can argue about genetics all you want, it doesn't negate the logic of my point.

harry takes A, which results in B
norman takes A-2, which results in B-2

you are acting like norman taking A-2 results in B, even though it is not the same as A. as if genetics is somehow immutable. that's like saying if someone took cyanide, and the other one an aspirin, that both would either die or cure their headache because they were related...

the. serums. are. different. just. like. cyanide. is. different. to. aspirin.

different cause/action leads to different outcome/reaction. you act as if i am arguing that both take the same serum, yet norman somehow doesnt mutate. i am not. that's my whole point, one serum is perfected, and the other is not.

if you can't follow this logic then i don't know what to tell you...

 

[Repulsor Blast]

Also...Hype101:

Posters see Harry as a Goblin first. Posters create scenarios that Norman will become a better Goblin and kill Gwen. Scenario doesn't pan out. Posters think this was the best decision ever by the film makers.

i never said norman will kill gwen, just that i am predicting (based on inconclusive evidence, sure) that norman will become green goblin in a future film and look more like his 616 counterpart.

gwen can be killed by harry, and as long as it is executed well, i'm fine with it.

harry goblin's look is hardly ideal, but i honestly believe that he is a stepping stone to norman as GG. has nothing to do with being a fanboy (i don't even like tasm1)

 

[Picard Sisko]

Sometimes I wonder if Venom'sDad is trolling...

 

[chaseter]

You really keep missing the point, don't you?

Because you never have a point??? Sony makes Harry a dumb looking Goblin that doesn't look like a Goblin where spoilers indicate that he does something major and you make a statement that you are glad that Sony isn't listening to the fans? I missed the point?

 

[Venom'sDad]

PS, keep thinking what you will, I state it, how I see it. You seem to like to be combative....on the verge of trolling yourself.

 

[chaseter]

i never said norman will kill gwen, just that i am predicting (based on inconclusive evidence, sure) that norman will become green goblin in a future film and look more like his 616 counterpart.

gwen can be killed by harry, and as long as it is executed well, i'm fine with it.

harry goblin's look is hardly ideal, but i honestly believe that he is a stepping stone to norman as GG. has nothing to do with being a fanboy (i don't even like tasm1)

I never said you ever said anything.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Because you never have a point??? Sony makes Harry a dumb looking Goblin that doesn't look like a Goblin where spoilers indicate that he does something major and you make a statement that you are glad that Sony isn't listening to the fans? I missed the point?

#1… if you think Harry is a "dumb looking goblin" is on you. That's your opinion.

#2, long ago a lot of people were saying how worried they were that Sony was letting the fans take creative control over the movie. This means that its not the case, and I think that's a good thing.

Just curious, if you hate this franchise so much, why are you here? Do you really have nothing better to do? Perhaps arguing gives you an adrenaline rush.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Just curious, if you hate this franchise so much, why are you here? Do you really have nothing better to do? Perhaps arguing gives you an adrenaline rush.

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[Micromind]

Edit: I thought the OP was asking posters about Goblin's look in the trailer.

I think that he should look just like he is shown in comics.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

I never said you ever said anything.

was just making sure

ps. i have no problem with you in the slightest. i actually appreciate a lot of your posts and find your criticisms to be anything but hate for hate's sake.

sometime's i feel like you and vids get too much flack on here..