The Dark Knight Rises Hugo Strange

[Robin91939]

I think that'd be cool!!! Honestly, if that was the case, I'd feel Bane would be playing a smaller note than Strange; and honestly, I think Bane should be the main villain. I think the only reason he'd honestly go Strange would be for more Venom, since he helped create the compound. I guess it could still work if one of the characters weren't aware that the other was in Gotham, or something of the like.

Make it a case of Strange utilizing/experimenting on Bane, and Bane biding his time--doing what Strange asks until he ultimately betrays him.

-R

 

[craigdbfan]

Don't want to get way to excited for something that may end up being false but I'm really liking the idea of having Hugo Strange and played by Robin Williams at that.

 

[SantomTheWhite]

I'd use Robin Williams for Strange...especially since he starred in "Insomnia" but Robin Williams to me doesn't really look like him. Strange is a bit younger and way more muscular.

 

[Gianakin_]

Well, Strange is grey haired and Williams doesn't look his age, so I don't think it would be a problem. As for the muscles, either he wouldn't wear the Bat-suit at the end, or we'd wear something like an armor (suited to his body type)... or he'd work out a bit.

 

[Avengers-Report]

I have never taken Williams seriously and it would just be weird to see him as Strange in this Batman film. But honestly my opinion shouldn't count because I have only seen him in flubber hahah. But the film is too crowded with new characters anyways to inject a character as complex as Strange.

 

[Gianakin_]

Nolan's pulled it off twice before, he can do it again. It all depends on how much he wasnts to delve into each character.

As for Williams, check out the Fisher King, Good Will Hunting, Insomnia, One Hour Photo, The Final Cut, What Dreams May Come, Bicentennial Man, Patch Addams and Awakenings. Great roles and at the very least good movies. Big list, but it's worth it 100%.

 

[Doctor Who]

Make it a case of Strange utilizing/experimenting on Bane, and Bane biding his time--doing what Strange asks until he ultimately betrays him.

-R

Better yet: Bane, if in any case like in Vengeance of Bane, finds out who made the Venom compound, tracks Strange down to Gotham, and then bonk heads for a deal. Since it's an addictive drug that he has to take every 10 hours, he'll need it to survive and complete his work; suppose Strange offers him all the Venom he needs in exchange of hunting down Batman.

Now, either we can play it that Bane already has it in for Batman and thinks this a bonus (later to double cross him later), or he agrees to this arrangement; but later on, he grows obsessed with Batman and wants to track it down him down for himself.

Then either way, it still stays along the same train of Prey while including that touch of Knightfall we fans enjoy.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Nolan's pulled it off twice before, he can do it again. It all depends on how much he wasnts to delve into each character.

As for Williams, check out the Fisher King, Good Will Hunting, Insomnia, One Hour Photo, The Final Cut and Awakenings. Great roles and at the very least good movies.

Nolan has pulled it off but I am still not a fan of cramming characters in. Assuming we see Catwoman, then her and Bane would be plenty enough to dive into. Bane, Catwoman and Strange would be too much. Even if Nolan could make it work, it would just be better without that much going on. I even thought Two-Face and Joker were too big of personalities to share a big screen successfully. Even though Nolan made it work, I don't want him to force anything for this third film just because he wants to cover every angle of his final Batman story.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Better yet: Bane, if in any case like in Vengeance of Bane, finds out who made the Venom compound, tracks Strange down to Gotham, and then bonk heads for a deal. Since it's an addictive drug that he has to take every 10 hours, he'll need it to survive and complete his work; suppose Strange offers him all the Venom he needs in exchange of hunting down Batman.

Now, either we can play it that Bane already has it in for Batman and thinks this a bonus (later to double cross him later), or he agrees to this arrangement; but later on, he grows obsessed with Batman and wants to track it down him down for himself.

Then either way, it still stays along the same train of Prey while including that touch of Knightfall we fans enjoy.

That could work, but the story telling would be more from the standpoint of Strange and Bane. Would Strange work for the cops or is he acting alone? I feel this needs to focus more on Batman and his story, not developing a relationship between two villains and their plan to take down/be obsessed with The Batman.

 

[Doctor Who]

Nolan has pulled it off but I am still not a fan of cramming characters in. Assuming we see Catwoman, then her and Bane would be plenty enough to dive into. Bane, Catwoman and Strange would be too much. Even if Nolan could make it work, it would just be better without that much going on. I even thought Two-Face and Joker were too big of personalities to share a big screen successfully. Even though Nolan made it work, I don't want him to force anything for this third film just because he wants to cover every angle of his final Batman story.

I'm with you on hoping it doesn't feel crammed and lacking like SpiderMan 3, basically. LOL Lets' remember one thing here ladies and gentlemen: Nolan has a way to put characters into their place, and what sells it is the story in which they play their parts in. Nolan isn't the kind of guy who'd just shove in as many characters as possible!!! He'd put in as many characters as it would take to make the story work; and that could be anybody from just only using Catwoman (which we only so far first that she's only Selina Kyle) to going to as many as 5-6 villains at a time. Everybody will be okay if they serve their purpose.

If this was some movie like Spiderman or anything by Marvel, I would panic too; but let's acknowledge Chris and John Nolan, and everybody else who worked on BB and TDK, and keep in mind we have people who know exactly what they're doing. And if you know that they do their jobs well like I do, you'd be 110% that we have nothing to worry about.

 

[Avengers-Report]

I'm with you on hoping it doesn't feel crammed and lacking like SpiderMan 3, basically. LOL Lets' remember one thing here ladies and gentlemen: Nolan has a way to put characters into their place, and what sells it is the story in which they play their parts in. Nolan isn't the kind of guy who'd just shove in as many characters as possible!!! He'd put in as many characters as it would take to make the story work; and that could be anybody from just only using Catwoman (which we only so far first that she's only Selina Kyle) to going to as many as 5-6 villains at a time. Everybody will be okay if they serve their purpose.

If this was some movie like Spiderman or anything by Marvel, I would panic too; but let's acknowledge Chris and John Nolan, and everybody else who worked on BB and TDK, and keep in mind we have people who know exactly what they're doing. And if you know that they do their jobs well like I do, you'd be 110% that we have nothing to worry about.

I completely trust Nolan and his team. They have proven time and time again they can make multiple characters work. I just like it when there are not as many characters haha. I don't want Nolan to have to prove himself again haha. Keep it simple and keep it about Batman!

 

[Doctor Who]

That could work, but the story telling would be more from the standpoint of Strange and Bane. Would Strange work for the cops or is he acting alone? I feel this needs to focus more on Batman and his story, not developing a relationship between two villains and their plan to take down/be obsessed with The Batman.

You wouldn't loose the momentum of Batman. Look at Begins: Ra's Al Ghul brought the blue flowers to make the fear toxin, sent it to Arkham for Crane to weaponize it and test it on his inmates, and then Crane pays Falcone to send the shipments into the Gotham. The cycle then pursues to grow more complicated then that if you want to explain it even further with more details.

ALL OF THAT went in the movie, but still focused on Bruce Wayne all the way at the beginning when he was a small child to later becoming the Batman, which remains the #1 focus of the film.

I may have made it seem a little personally focused between Bane and Strange, but I really don't think that something as simple as my theory would intervene with the concept of the Dark Knight Rising.

 

[Doctor Who]

I completely trust Nolan and his team. They have proven time and time again they can make multiple characters work. I just like it when there are not as many characters haha. I don't want Nolan to have to prove himself again haha. Keep it simple and keep it about Batman!

Agreed; but remember that Nolan and his team are never simple. But still outdo themselves every time. LOL

 

[Avengers-Report]

You wouldn't loose the momentum of Batman. Look at Begins: Ra's Al Ghul brought the blue flowers to make the fear toxin, sent it to Arkham for Crane to weaponize it and test it on his inmates, and then Crane pays Falcone to send the shipments into the Gotham. The cycle then pursues to grow more complicated then that if you want to explain it even further with more details.

ALL OF THAT went in the movie, but still focused on Bruce Wayne all the way at the beginning when he was a small child to later becoming the Batman, which remains the #1 focus of the film.

I may have made it seem a little personally focused between Bane and Strange, but I really don't think that something as simple as my theory would intervene with the concept of the Dark Knight Rising.

I am still reading Knightfall and have read Prey, but I must say combining elements from both would be awesome. I just want to make sure it focuses on Batman and his decision to basically do what he does. I don't think Batman will exist at the end of this film. He is either going to die, turn himself in or quit/retire. I think Nolan wants to finish the story in that fashion so there is no return for him haha.

 

[Doctor Who]

I am still reading Knightfall and have read Prey, but I must say combining elements from both would be awesome. I just want to make sure it focuses on Batman and his decision to basically do what he does. I don't think Batman will exist at the end of this film. He is either going to die, turn himself in or quit/retire. I think Nolan wants to finish the story in that fashion so there is no return for him haha.

Both excellent reads. I would like it if he left it off at a possible cliff hanger, but enough depth to feel to end and that it would be better not to continue; if it ain't broke and it's perfect, don't fix it. Kind of like the first Matrix really.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Both excellent reads. I would like it if he left it off at a possible cliff hanger, but enough depth to feel to end and that it would be better not to continue; if it ain't broke and it's perfect, don't fix it. Kind of like the first Matrix really.

Well Nolan has already used the ride away in the night with Gordan making a speech ending. Interesting to see what it will be this time.

 

[Doctor Who]

Well Nolan has already used the ride away in the night with Gordan making a speech ending. Interesting to see what it will be this time.

Something I could never guess; which is what I always hope for.

 

[ronny]

Let's say Strange is in the movie. What if he is Bruce Wayne's pherapist after his back is broken? What if Strange is not yet the man we know from the comics but is something of an extended cameo. Giving Bruce advice and treatment whilst showing subtle signs of schizophrenia and obsession?

He's a freak villain but is also in the category I would class as 'Anti-Batman'. Bane is also in the category, so we shouldn't really have Strange in full-fledged villain mode during the story.

Bane wants to replace Batman as Gotham's pinnacle of strength and fear. Strange wants to murder Batman and become him. Bane is calculating and ruthless, Strange is unhinged and perverted. Bane wears a mask, Strange hides in plain sight.

Yes, they can co-exist. But I fear that the story could get very crowded.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Let's say Strange is in the movie. What if he is Bruce Wayne's pherapist after his back is broken? What if Strange is not yet the man we know from the comics but is something of an extended cameo. Giving Bruce advice and treatment whilst showing subtle signs of schizophrenia and obsession?

He's a freak villain but is also in the category I would class as 'Anti-Batman'. Bane is also in the category, so we shouldn't really have Strange in full-fledged villain mode during the story.

Bane wants to replace Batman as Gotham's pinnacle of strength and fear. Strange wants to murder Batman and become him. Bane is calculating and ruthless, Strange is unhinged and perverted. Bane wears a mask, Strange hides in plain sight.

Yes, they can co-exist. But I fear that the story could get very crowded.

But most of this is just assumption so I doubt the story could ever get that complicated.

 

[ronny]

Indeed. But it's the only way they could include Strange without things being too cluttered, in my opinion at least.
We have to tell the story of Batman's redemption, we have to introduce both Bane and Catwoman, there's a lot of ground to cover right?
So why not introduce a future villain as a good, friendly character? Lay the seeds for his future villainy and send the fans home happy. Just have him as an insignificant side character, I think that's the way to go.

And maybe it's just me but I always liked the idea of Strange having a bit of a New-Age guru vibe to him. Not tie-dye and angel dust, but just some general informality to him, a kind of beatnik feel. Someone who can seem very sincere one moment and absolutely hokey the next.

It would be cool if people came out of the movie and thought: 'Yeah, I can see why this guy went nuts'. Plant the seeds and let the comics tell the rest of the story.

For what it's worth, I don't believe Jett. I don't like the man, I don't respect him and I certainly don't trust a word that comes from his mouth. He always finds a way to tear his lips away from his sister just long enough to lie to those dumb enough to give this hick the time of day.

 

[ultimatefan]

Say what you will about Jett, he made a similar post about Tom Hardy as Bane being in the movie shortly before the announcement that he was Hardy´s character.

I can see Williams doing it, he played a pretty creepy character in Nolan´s Insomnia.

For those who complain about too many villains, Nolan made that work in BB (Falcone, Ra´s, Scarecrow), and TDK (Joker, Two-Face, Maroni), so he can do it one more time, it´s all up to the story.

 

[itsthebatman]

Problem is, that Maroni and Falcone were really just extended cameos, neither of them are as big in the mythos as any of Bane, Catwoman or Strange. So if all three are in TDKR, one of them will suffer and not get as much screentime as we would like.

 

[-JKR-]

Yeah, BUT... the characters are in the flick to serve a purpose in the story, not to get showcased.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I could definitely see Strange being a therapist of some sort. Either someone working for the GCPD and doing press conferences on what his opinions are of the Batman , what he thinks of him, and him analyzing Batman. I don't see the police bringing Bane in at all, but I could see Strange in that position. He could have the more sinister undertones. He could be the next Reese or Earle for all we know. Or more towards Crane's role in BB which I see more of. Him having another motive possibly.

 

[Mister H.]

Yeah, BUT... the characters are in the flick to serve a purpose in the story, not to get showcased.

Exactly. If you want to sit there and stare at one of their costumes, you can always refer to your comics. Nolan will be using them to advance the narrative. It's already been pointed out, but TDK was over 150 minutes long, and Joker had about 25 minutes, Batman about 20 minutes, and Two-Face about 10 minutes of actual screentime.

If Nolan thinks he can juggle Strange, Catwoman, Bane, and Batman (God I hope so) I have no reason at all to doubt him.