The Dark Knight In Heath We Trust: A Ledgerbration: The TDK Joker Appreciation Thread - Part 1

[Rodrigo90]

My God...

 

[Indy Flash]

 

[The Joker]

^ That looks awesome.

 

[scarlet-witch]

Watching Leto's version in SS made me miss Heath even more. He was truly perfect as the Joker.

 

[Leenie]

After Suicide Squad, I rewatched The Dark Knight again. While I can't say I flat out hated Suicide Squad, I did want to remember good times. Haha.

Heath Ledger's Joker is one of the best villain performances ever. EVER. Eight years later, and it's still every bit as amazing as I remembered. Maybe even more, after seeing how Joker is being handled now in the DCEU.

I mean, I feel bad for Jared Leto in a way because it is difficult no matter what to be the successor of Ledger's Joker. I also understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would prefer Leto's Joker over ANY of the previous Jokers we've had on the big screen (let alone Heath Ledger's).

 

[scarlet-witch]

Heath Ledger's Joker is one of the best villain performances ever. EVER. Eight years later, and it's still every bit as amazing as I remembered. Maybe even more, after seeing how Joker is being handled now in the DCEU.

I mean, I feel bad for Jared Leto in a way because it is difficult no matter what to be the successor of Ledger's Joker. I also understand that everyone has their own opinion, but I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would prefer Leto's Joker over ANY of the previous Jokers we've had on the big screen (let alone Heath Ledger's).

I applaud Leto for trying something different, but in the end it just didn't work, IMO.

What made Heath's Joker so great is even when he wasn't on screen, you were still thinking about him and wondering when he'd show up again. I know I'll probably never like a Joker like I did Heath again, but I had hoped one would at least come close to or surpass Hamill or Nicholson at least.

 

[Batman137]

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Thanks guys

 

[shauner111]

I applaud Leto for trying something different, but in the end it just didn't work, IMO.

What made Heath's Joker so great is even when he wasn't on screen, you were still thinking about him and wondering when he'd show up again. I know I'll probably never like a Joker like I did Heath again, but I had hoped one would at least come close to or surpass Hamill or Nicholson at least.

If Leto doesn't get a lot of screentime in the next Batman movie or tries some even weirder s**t, i don't think his Joker will be remembered in the long run.

I liked it personally. But he definitely tried weird s**t that may not pay off if repeated too much. Like his lizard/creature thing he was doing in that room, with the guard. I also think he needs at least one more new laugh that is wild. Leto can pull a crazy laugh off, the videos are around from other movies he's been in. But he chose to just use that creepy, old man laugh that he uses quite frequently throughout Suicide Squad.

Ledger will go down as the greatest for a very long time. I can't see them jumping right into a new Joker as soon as they reboot (if Leto gets bad reviews in Affleck's film). They will need to be careful with who they cast, the design, everything. I can see them focusing more on other villains for a while.

Heath just had the right balance. There were fresh choices that were experimental and could have failed, absolutely. The ticks, the tongue, the voice...all ballsy. Leto made ballsy choices too. But Ledger always felt/looked more like a clown, still had a permanent smile, was really funny, didn't care about money or the mob and raised some valid points unlike Leto who so far is the classic mustache twirling Joker straight out of a cartoon.

Anytime i hear people saying Heath's Joker was the serious one and didn't bring that humor...i always facepalm.

 

[Wildcard]

I think Leto's mannerisms worked for the version he wanted to portray, which is inspired by Azzarello's novel, The Dark Knight Returns & Scott Snyder's/Greg Capullo's Joker. And for those versions, I could very much see them behaving similarly to Leto's Joker just as much as I could see other iterations behaving similarly to Heath or Jack or Hamill's interpretations.

At the end of the day, I'm just happy Leto had the guts to do something different and didn't try to mimic the actors before him.

 

[The Joker]

This is a Ledger appreciation thread, guys. Lets not spoil it with talks of the awful Letoker.

 

[Wildcard]

This is a Ledger appreciation thread, guys. Lets not spoil it with talks of the awful Letoker.

You are really transparent.

 

[The Joker]

Judging by your avatar and salty response, so are you.

Now that you have that out of your system, leave the Letoker talk for a thread that's about him.

 

[hellblazer103]

Tfw someone hits you with the typical " HEATH WUZ JUSS A KRAZY ANARCHIST IN MAKEUP NAHT DA 1 TRU JOKURR " bs :

 

[The Joker]

I just show them this; http://jokerfans.blogspot.ie/

 

[hellblazer103]

I just show them this; http://jokerfans.blogspot.ie/

I do too and they still don't seem to get it . They'll even be like " oh well there might be homages but he still wasn't The Joker "

Like forreal?...

 

[-JKR-]

I just show them this; http://jokerfans.blogspot.ie/

Yeah, but hey...

Of course Christopher Nolan was ashamed of the source material.

 

[The Joker]

Yeah, but hey...

Of course Christopher Nolan was ashamed of the source material.

That's another claim I always found funny. I mean he even wrote a huge introduction to the ultimate edition of The Long Halloween saying how much he loved it and how it inspired his movies. I don't know many CBM directors who have done something like that.

 

[-JKR-]

The movies are literal love letters to the Batman mythos, and full of details taken straight from the comics.

 

[Matt.S99]

Tfw someone hits you with the typical " HEATH WUZ JUSS A KRAZY ANARCHIST IN MAKEUP NAHT DA 1 TRU JOKURR " bs :

But isn't that what's so great about the character? He can be a crazy Anarchist, a suave mobguy, or a bedazzled drug lord, but he's still the Joker.

I love how each Joker is representative of the times. Heaths Joker really was a "realistic" take on the character. That's what made him scary.

 

[hellblazer103]

But isn't that what's so great about the character? He can be a crazy Anarchist, a suave mobguy, or a bedazzled drug lord, but he's still the Joker.

I love how each Joker is representative of the times. Heaths Joker really was a "realistic" take on the character. That's what made him scary.

^ 100 percent this.

 

[shauner111]

Well he can be all of those things, but it doesn't mean he should be. You can take any character and try ANYTHING with them and then years later say "see, you can do any of these versions! Isn't that amazing? They're all valid because they were done!".

I don't necessarily believe that all of that is what "makes the Joker great". There's other reasons as to why he's great.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

My favorite Heath dismissal:

"Uhhh...he was just a typical serial killer. A generic mass murderer. He wasn't the Joker. No sir".

 

[shauner111]

Generic? I love when people don't pay attention to movies.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Heath still best Joker of movies.

 

[hellblazer103]

My favorite Heath dismissal:

"Uhhh...he was just a typical serial killer. A generic mass murderer. He wasn't the Joker. No sir".

EXACTLY. That's all I ever hear