Sci-Fi Interstellar - Part 10

Its been years since I watched Inception and I need to rectify that soon. But that's another I want to upgrade to 4K so watching my regular blu ray would put me off for a while :wall:
 
I've still only seen this twice.
 
I still get chills to this time. It actually makes me choke up with how much emotion zimmer composed this with.

 


Simultaneously the loudest and best scene of the movie. :hehe:
 
I always loved the robots TARS and CASE the way they made them 'act' in the movie was outstanding
 
Having recently seen it, I can say for sure that the sarcastic robot approach in Interstellar was definitely inspired by the film The Black Hole which Nolan had mentioned in the past as one of his favourite.
 
Cant choose between The Prestige and Dunkirk as his best film.
Both are fantastic. Tenet is i guess for now his most underrated film, the ideas behind it are really interesting.
 
I think Interstellar, Dunkirk and The Dark Knight are his best.
 
Mjolnir Reborn said:
Interstellar is really good, but I do find it very jarring how its unusually scientifically accurate up until going into the black hole and then just goes in the completely opposite direction. Both how the gravity is portrayed and how the concept of love is used in a way I don't think fits the tone of the rest of the film.
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Personally I think that's exactly the point though. The film uses scientific fact to a point, as a means to push up against the edge of what is unknown or seemingly unknowable. The inside of a black hole is something currently beyond our comprehension, because it is where all conceptions of time and space completely break down. In movie terms I think it basically be thought of as a metaphor for whatever happens after we die. Theoretically speaking, if there were such a thing as 5th dimensional beings that operate outside our concept of time and space, they would be able to put a tesseract in there. While certainly strange and unlikely, the universe is full of strange phenomenon and it seems to get stranger and stranger the more we uncover, and we ultimately have only barely scratched the surface in terms of our knowledge of it.

I think approaching the film with that mindset and openness as opposed to looking at it as some type of science class you can get more wonder out of it. At least that's my experience with it, but that type of stuff is right up my alley. I tend to be more amazed by what we don't know. Like how we still haven't even really have an agreed upon idea of what exactly consciousness is, or how we don't know what 95% of the universe is even made out of. I think the movie gets at the root of some of the big questions that we need to stay engaged with.
 
BatLobster said:
Personally I think that's exactly the point though. The film uses scientific fact to a point, as a means to push up against the edge of what is unknown or seemingly unknowable. The inside of a black hole is something currently beyond our comprehension, because it is where all conceptions of time and space completely break down. In movie terms I think it basically be thought of as a metaphor for whatever happens after we die. Theoretically speaking, if there were such a thing as 5th dimensional beings that operate outside our concept of time and space, they would be able to put a tesseract in there. While certainly strange and unlikely, the universe is full of strange phenomenon and it seems to get stranger and stranger the more we uncover, and we ultimately have only barely scratched the surface in terms of our knowledge of it.

I think approaching the film with that mindset and openness as opposed to looking at it as some type of science class you can get more wonder out of it. At least that's my experience with it, but that type of stuff is right up my alley. I tend to be more amazed by what we don't know. Like how we still haven't even really have an agreed upon idea of what exactly consciousness is, or how we don't know what 95% of the universe is even made out of. I think the movie gets at the root of some of the big questions that we need to stay engaged with.
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Yes, it's most likely intentional but it didn't work all that well for me. If the black hole had the effects it was shown to have during the film it would have disintegrated Cooper as the molecular structures of his body wouldn't withstand that gravitational force, so it really doesn't help to try to put some metal in front of you and sail on in. The love concept isn't so much about whether there are things beyond our understanding but I just felt a bit of it felt too cheesy compared to the rest of the film, and one can also point to that the connection was used pretty poorly compared to what could have been done with it.

It's just about my natural reaction to it as there really are more issues with it. Some are classic Nolan issues but some of those just flew by without disturbing me to a higher degree than in many of his other films. For example, there is still an issue with him writing women but since I, for some reason, resonated better with the emotional beats in this film than usual it still ended up giving me a positive experience. I generally don't think Nolan works very well on an emotional level in his films so that difference probably helped quite a bit here.
 
Mjolnir Reborn said:
The love concept isn't so much about whether there are things beyond our understanding but I just felt a bit of it felt too cheesy compared to the rest of the film, and one can also point to that the connection was used pretty poorly compared to what could have been done with it.
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I think it is though, as I think that's the point of Brand's speech. It's suggesting, what if there's more to love than what we can perceive and know.

As for it being cheesy, yeah, I can't argue that. It's a big earnest swing. Respect your opinion though, obviously it's not going to work for everyone.
 
BatLobster said:
I think it is though, as I think that's the point of Brand's speech. It's suggesting, what if there's more to love than what we can perceive and know.

As for it being cheesy, yeah, I can't argue that. It's a big earnest swing. Respect your opinion though, obviously it's not going to work for everyone.
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I probably didn't write that clearly enough as I meant to say that my issues with it aren't related to there being things beyond our understanding, I didn't require everything to be based on verified science in that regard as that was likely out of the window when the books started falling early on.

It's also probably worth clarifying that I don't hate that part in the film, it just felt different than the rest of it and it created a slight bump in my enjoyment in a film I generally really enjoyed. I think it's only Memento out of his films that I definitely hold higher than this, then this is in the tier below it with some others.
 
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