Interstellar - Part 10

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  1. Infinity9999x Registered

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    Exactly. They're very different films. The Martian was supposed to be Cast Away on Mars. That's what the Author set out to write when he wrote the book, and that's what the movie was.

    Interstellar was definitely aiming to tackle some higher sci-fi concepts, but did it in a way that was still pretty accessible to the general audience. So 2001-lite is a pretty apt description.
     
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  2. BatLobster Trailer Timewarper

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    Yeah, I don't disagree. 2001 meets Contact meets 80s Spielberg.
     
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  3. Man in the Suit Greeting

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    I like Interstellar more every time I watch it. I think it's a lot better than Inception, if we're comparing Nolan's original blockbusters.
     
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  4. BatLobster Trailer Timewarper

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    Same for me. I like Inception quite a bit, but for me Interstellar is holding up better as I've gotten deeper into multiple viewings, whereas some of the initlal charm of Inception has worn off a bit.

    Inception is obviously more action packed and the "cooler" movie, but Interstellar has more heart and maturity.
     
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    I always found Inception rather overrated and definitely the film where Nolan's flaws as a filmmaker show in full force. My initial takeaway from Interstellar was greatly more enthusiastic.
     
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  6. rogbngp DCEU supporter

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    Just watched Interstellar last night and had a very mixed reaction to it. There are some things I really enjoyed about it and some things that I experienced as conspicuous fails.

    Overall it is an inventive and engaging story. The CGI is impressive. But at times also both McConaughey and Hathaway (who, interestingly, are it seems just doing their jobs as directed) come across as overacting. It's a little like some of Jodie Foster's lengthy reaction shots in Contact (see at 2:41 below):

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    I mean, maybe the stark setting of deep space tends to exaggerate emotional nuances of a performance, or something. It was sort of immersion-breaking for me, though.

    And then the theme of human bonds and connections being so strongly at odds with the imperative to complete the mission by accepting that such a mission is one-way just didn't sell me at all. I didn't buy it. It felt contrived as a device to drive the drama. It's the sort of thing that probably looked good on paper but in the film it rang hollow to me. So Professor Brand creates a smoke screen, Coop must (no matter the cost) get back to see his daughter, Mann lies to get rescued, and Brand's daughter "follows her heart" to try to persuade them to go to the planet where the astronaut she was in love with went? People are going to behave this way when the survival of the species is at stake? They're going to find it that hard to soberly and maturely sacrifice their own lives and personal interests due the inexorable pull of those personal human connections? Soldiers have been regularly sacrificing their lives for a greater cause since the inception of warfare. It's not to say that isn't difficult--of course it is. But this is not about taking a hill or even winning a war. It's about the survival of the entire species. And actually for that matter, quite a number of astronauts have either died or stared death in the face and still kept their poise and the mission focal. Anyway, I just didn't buy the motivations for all these characters, respectively, to muck up the whole mission.

    The whole 5th dimension plot got quite complicated and convoluted, and several times sort of jolted me out of immersion with its succession of new twists.

    Like the deeply flawed (at times literally laughably so) Prometheus and Jupiter Ascending (also unintentionally funny), Interstellar is kind of a visually glorious hot mess--but it is ultimately a feast for the eyes.

    This movie also felt like Nolan attempting to make his own version of 2001: A Space Odyssey. The latter is truly an effortless feeling masterpiece whereas this film struggles mightily. But in reference to 2001, I really appreciated that unlike the robot Hal, Interstellar's TARS basically became Coop's best bud--TARS was the one "person" that Coop could actually trust and rely upon! Which is also sort of a sad commentary, when you think about it. It seems to reflect a pretty dim view of humanity. (A view that I don't share, but I can respect the artistic statement there even if I disagree with the idea behind it.) The movie does end on a hopeful note. But that doesn't seem to square with the much darker, more pessimistic vision that we're shown for most of the film.

    I won't say this is a bad film. Because I also admire how ambitious it was--and I admire it for its risk-taking. I cared about the characters and what happened to them, and I remained mesmerized throughout (overall, despite the occasional immersion-breakers). But it just felt to me very uneven, shaky, and unwieldy. Like Nolan had a tiger by the tail, and he never really got the subject matter to bend to his will.

    Had I been able to vote I would have given the movie a score of 7.
     
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    I find it weird how some find
    5th dimension
    part dragging the movie down. For me, that scene made it great sci-fi to masterpiece sci-fi.

    It's big budget movie version of Through The Wormhole with Morgan Freeman. :hmr:
     
  8. AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Agreed, throughout I was wondering how the movie would end, and I thought it was done brilliantly, loved all of the 5th dimension stuff personally.
     
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    FWIW I don't mind the 5th dimension plot in principle. My main criticism is I didn't buy the human motivations that impair everyone's judgment about dedicating themselves to the most logical course to try to ensure survival of the species.

    I realize that the film has a message that ultimately 'love conquers all (including time and space as we know it)' or something to that effect. But it just came together in a clumsy, ill-fitting kind of way for me.
     
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    Just for fun...

    AnneFan Productions presents Interstellar 2:

    ROCKET ANNE

    With music by Sir Elton John.

    :hehe:
     
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    I thought it was great. And everytime I it I see things I didn't before.
     
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    Whats that cat gif for?
     
  14. Filmfreak Registered

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    For this scene:

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  15. Filmfan93 The Man in Black

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    Love Interstellar. Seen it like 7-8 times.

    Will be re-watching it (along with Dunkirk) shortly before July 17th when Tenet hits theaters.
     
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    I like it as well. Its the one film from him that I didn't get bored for a moment, like the talking scenes, those didn't bore me in this movie.
     
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    I like it best as a mood piece, tbh. I just love the whole vibe created by the combination of the visuals and music - it's really transporting, imo. That music is probably my favorite Zimmer/Nolan collaboration to date.
     
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    I am definitely re-watching this before Tenet comes out among some other Nolan films. It's been a while since I last saw it, but I remember really loving it and finding it pretty damn emotional. Never understood why people called it boring, but I guess its just not for everybody.
     
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    I can agree with that, it's more aesthetic than story.
     
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  20. AVEITWITHJAMON Darksider

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    Nice to see so much love for this movie as I think it's amazing. It's been on my list to upgrade the blu ray to the 4K version for a while now.
     
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    Honestly, this and Inception are my favorite Nolan films. Interstellar is so underrated. It truly is our generations 2001 IMO.
     
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    This is either my 3rd or 4th favorite Nolan film. an Absolute masterpiece, in my opinion.
     
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    If you've ever had to deal with a rift in the family, or experienced a deathbed reconciliation, this movie can really hit on a deep emotional level. Obviously Nolan loves to play with time in nearly all his films, but this is the one where it becomes a gut punch.

    I think as important as the score is in all of Nolan's Zimmer collaborations, this is the movie where the score has the most direct impact on how I take in the movie as a whole. Hard to imagine it without that church organ.
     
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    I concur with you guys on the score. This is really one of my all-time favorite score in a film ever. It's just perfect. Also, Matt Damon in this movie presents one of the most tragic antagonists I've ever seen in a movie. When he comes into the movie, he just steals it. What he does in this film is disgusting, but can you blame him? Who amongst us would make those same choices in a hopeless situation? This film in general presents complex problems on a grand and personal level simultaneously without offering easy answers.

    This is a movie that hits me at a gut punch level every time I watch it.
     
  25. Mjolnir Reborn Blunt Instrument

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    Interstellar is really good, but I do find it very jarring how its unusually scientifically accurate up until going into the black hole and then just goes in the completely opposite direction. Both how the gravity is portrayed and how the concept of love is used in a way I don't think fits the tone of the rest of the film.

    I would see the love idea as a natural part of that I don't think Nolan does that well with emotions and is rather more intellectually interesting, but outside of that Interstellar is probably the film where I think Nolan makes it work the best that he has in any of his films. Especially the meeting between father and daughter, at her deathbed, worked well for me.

    Outside of all that the film is technically great and offers a very nice looking space adventure that feels realistic and easy to buy into.
     
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