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Sci-Fi Interstellar - Part 10

Faora said:
Neil deGrasse Tyson on Christopher Nolan

http://www.today.com/popculture/neil-degrasse-tyson-ready-late-night-science-trending-t15621

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http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/startalk/videos/neil-degrasse-tyson-on-christopher-nolan/

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I love these two so much. Loved the Interstellar Startalk episode as well.
 
Rocketman said:
I love Interstellar more and more every time I watch it. It's a masterpiece.

This movie is one of those very rare examples of being "too good for its own good." In other words, it's virtually perfect in every way... and that's the problem. That's too much for people. We can't have flawless movies.

People want lame jokes and bullets and car chases and they want them riddled with mediocre camera angles and sloppy editing and rock music. To make a $150 Million movie and NOT deliver in those areas is basically blasphemous nowadays. Give this a budget of $10 Million and you've got your Black Swan or your Social Network or your No Country for Old Men... Those are safe. People know what they're getting. Treat it like an epic blockbuster and you get people in the theater who go "I didn't think this would be some artsy-fartsy Oscar movie! Yuck!"

So I think that was the problem with the general audience, unfortunately. They didn't know what they were getting, and admittedly, the studio didn't quite know who they were marketing it to. The right audiences kind of missed out. This was a $150 Million slow drama film. It shouldn't exist.

It was Best Picture material, clearly the best of 2014 by a landslide.
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Yep, just watched it again today and it just gets better and better, there really are a few moments I tear up during this movie but everything else is just brilliant stuff as well, from the effects to the acting and story telling. This is possibly my favourite Nolan movie and that is saying a lot.
 
Why is the poll closed? I finally saw it, and I don't get to vote :(

PS - didn't like it. I'd give it 5.
 
Interstellar wins big at the 41st Saturn Awards:
http://variety.com/2015/scene/vpage...rdians-of-the-galaxy-interstellar-1201529054/

Jonathan Nolan accepted the screenwriting honor for “Interstellar.” He quipped: ” ‘Interstellar’ is the story of a man who goes on an arduous journey, comes back 100 years later to find that nobody remembers him or gives a f–k about what he was doing. It’s a pretty good metaphor for writing a studio film.”
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Best Science Fiction Film Release
Best Performance by a Younger Actor in a Film
Best Film Writing
Best Film Production Design
Best Film Music
Best Film Special/Visual Effects

http://www.saturnawards.org/
 
BatLobsterRises said:
Ha, love that quote from Jonah. Congrats to Interstellar on the awards, well-deserved.

Couple of new tidbits here:

The American Journal of Physicists wants Interstellar to become part of the curriculum for students studying relativity. So cool!

http://scitation.aip.org/content/aapt/journal/ajp/83/6/10.1119/1.4916949

Also, here's a great analysis video:

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[Self proclaimed movie critics on net]NOOOooo o... . , the physics in that movie is soo wrong !![/Self proclaimed movie critics on net]

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I have a question.

When Cooper is in the tesseract, why doesn't he relay a message saying "Don't go to Miller's Planet, and Don't go to Mann's Planet." .. He knows that both missions were a failure and in hindsight they went for no reason. If they don't go to Miller's, they save 23 years automatically.

So what if more simply, he JUST relays a message that says "Go straight to Gargantua." He would still send the quantum data with TARS, but why not ALSO tell Murph, "Tell your dad to go straight to Gargantua." ?

I'm just asking. I don't have an answer.
 
I would assume that he priority is to save Earth and not to fix everything that went wrong during the mission.
 
I think it's the desperation that fills him after seeing the futility of going to the planets that makes him determine to "give up his life" by entering the black hole. Just being told to go there could make him waste the trip by living his life studying it from the outside instead of going in.
 
Rocketman said:
I have a question.

When Cooper is in the tesseract, why doesn't he relay a message saying "Don't go to Miller's Planet, and Don't go to Mann's Planet." .. He knows that both missions were a failure and in hindsight they went for no reason. If they don't go to Miller's, they save 23 years automatically.

So what if more simply, he JUST relays a message that says "Go straight to Gargantua." He would still send the quantum data with TARS, but why not ALSO tell Murph, "Tell your dad to go straight to Gargantua." ?

I'm just asking. I don't have an answer.
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Because that's not how it went when he was in the past. This creates a paradox. When observing time from the bulk, we'd see it simultaneously - all occurring at once.

Cooper receives "STAY" -> Goes to all planets -> Into blackhole -> Sends data and "STAY"

It's cyclical and always happens this way. He's always receiving the message, he's always going to the planets, he's always in the blackhole and he's always sending the message.

What you're suggesting is this:

Cooper receives "STAY" -> Goes to all planets -> Into Blackhole -> Sends data and "Avoid Miller and Mann's planets" -> Cooper receives "Avoid Miller and Mann's planets" -> Goes to all planets -> Into Blackhole -> Sends data -> because he only sends the data, Cooper in the past never receives "STAY" or "Avoid Miller and Mann's planets" (or even if he does send the latter, he would've never received "STAY" to begin with) - this would result in the first chain of events never happening, leading to the second chain of events never happening leading to the entire thing being a paradox.
 
CinemaSins just did a video for Interstellar and I'm surprised they pointed something out that I brought up in this thread and bugged me when I saw the movie. But Cooper able to catch on to Brand and Edmunds' relationship never made sense to me. She never did anything except describe who landed on which planet yet Cooper caught on immediately and asked about them to TARS.

I'm glad they also pointed out how much McConaughey mumbles in the movie. The part in the CinemaSins video about his remark to TARS about turning him into a vacuum cleaner is hilarious because it's true. Brand definitely would not have heard that remark from that far away when I barely could :funny:

Other than that, it was interesting to see how much they enjoyed the movie for the # of sins taken off :hehe: CinemaSins isn't as fun as they used to be since it's taking itself a little too seriously now but this was one of their better videos lately. Neil deGrasse Tyson is also a part of the analysis too.
 
Ugh, 22 mins? Sorry Cinema Sins, too long for my liking.
 
Ha, I'll usually watch them when I eat if I can't find anything else to watch :hehe:
 
JaD said:
CinemaSins just did a video for Interstellar and I'm surprised they pointed something out that I brought up in this thread and bugged me when I saw the movie. But Cooper able to catch on to Brand and Edmunds' relationship never made sense to me. She never did anything except describe who landed on which planet yet Cooper caught on immediately and asked about them to TARS.

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It's pretty self explanatory.

By that point in the movie Cooper had spent time with Brand, her father, and in the NASA facility with people who knew Brand and Edmunds. At some point during that time he found out about her relationship with Dr. Edmunds.

Every little thing that's not shown in minute detail is a plot hole. Some things are simply implied to have happened off screen. That is what is going on in this situation. Considering he had lost his wife and Brand had lost her boyfriend it's a somewhat safe assumption that during Brand and Cooper's time together prior to the launch they discussed losing the person they loved. Or he could have found out another way.
 
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Marvolo said:
It's pretty self explanatory.

By that point in the movie Cooper had spent time with Brand, her father, and in the NASA facility with people who knew Brand and Edmunds. At some point during that time he found out about her relationship with Dr. Edmunds.

Every little thing that's not shown in minute detail is a plot hole. Some things are simply implied to have happened off screen. That is what is going on in this situation. Considering he had lost his wife and Brand had lost her boyfriend it's a somewhat safe assumption that during Brand and Cooper's time together prior to the launch they discussed losing the person they loved. Or he could have found out another way.
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The problem is that that kind of development in their knowledge of each other didn't have to be left up to assumption. A major problem with Interstellar, as much as I like and respect it, is that so much of its story telling is neither accomplished through dialogue nor through visuals. It just simply isn't there.
 
Marvolo said:
It's pretty self explanatory.

By that point in the movie Cooper had spent time with Brand, her father, and in the NASA facility with people who knew Brand and Edmunds. At some point during that time he found out about her relationship with Dr. Edmunds.

Every little thing that's not shown in minute detail is a plot hole. Some things are simply implied to have happened off screen. That is what is going on in this situation. Considering he had lost his wife and Brand had lost her boyfriend it's a somewhat safe assumption that during Brand and Cooper's time together prior to the launch they discussed losing the person they loved. Or he could have found out another way.
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I like this reasoning but at the same time, Cooper asks TARS if they were close like he's searching for more information about them. You could argue that this is meant for the audience to get in Coop's head that he's already onto their relationship from past conversations we never saw but the audience of course has to go from what's shown onscreen for the most part.

Of course not everything needs to be shown but to me at least that's a rather large plot point that could have been hinted at during his time on the station with Brand and her father if going with your reasoning. To fix that we could have simply seen Cooper peeking into Brand's office at the station during his tour and seeing a picture of her and Edmunds on her desk, problem solved and then his suspicion with her wouldn't have felt so out of left field.

If he already had this information or a hunch it wasn't concrete at that point and he still picked up on something (from what I saw) from nothing. It was always just a little thing that bugged me is all. I'm just glad I wasn't the only one to wonder about that.
 
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I can't stand CinemaSins. It's so annoying and painfully unfunny.
 
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