Interstellar - Part 3

[DA_Champion]

Unfortunately, it may be the case that if the movie is too cerebral it will bomb. Nolan has thus far been masterful at making movies that are both cerebral and blockbustery, but this is a somewhat different movie, so we'll see.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Unfortunately, it may be the case that if the movie is too cerebral it will bomb. Nolan has thus far been masterful at making movies that are both cerebral and blockbustery, but this is a somewhat different movie, so we'll see.

More concerning is the release date: only two weeks before a Hunger Games sequel that will pretty much wipe out anything currently in theaters at the time. I think they should move it to October so it has more time before THG3 comes out.

 

[redhawk23]

Again, examples?

Every NASA montage ever.

The opening Credits of Star Trek: Enterprise


An example of a teaser that uses similar rhetoric, specifically JFK and NASA quotes but provided more new imagery even if it wasn't from the film itself was that Star Trek "Under Construction" Teaser that came out in January of 08.

 

[jmc]

Well if history is anything to go by if he's on his A-game the film will have strong legs. So at worst it has two weeks at the top.

 

[DA_Champion]

More concerning is the release date: only two weeks before a Hunger Games sequel that will pretty much wipe out anything currently in theaters at the time. I think they should move it to October so it has more time before THG3 comes out.

Is it really so bad to face strong competition in a movie's third week?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Is it really so bad to face strong competition in a movie's third week?

Yes. Look what happened to Amazing Spider-Man last year. Came out during the July 4th holiday period, then had to deal with TDKR on July 20th. Look at the 3rd weekend drop:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=spiderman4.htm

 

[jmc]

Yes. Look what happened to Amazing Spider-Man last year. Came out during the July 4th holiday period, then had to deal with TDKR on July 20th. Look at the 3rd weekend drop:

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=spiderman4.htm

Yeah but look at the subsequent weeks after TDKR, solid drops, it still had good legs.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah but look at the subsequent weeks after TDKR, solid drops, it still had good legs.

By that point it had already died. Much easier to have "solid drops" after you've lost almost 70% of your business in one weekend.

 

[DA_Champion]

Every NASA montage ever.

The opening Credits of Star Trek: Enterprise


An example of a teaser that uses similar rhetoric, specifically JFK and NASA quotes but provided more new imagery even if it wasn't from the film itself was that Star Trek "Under Construction" Teaser that came out in January of 08.

Dude, you had said the Interstellar trailer was like discovery channel stuff, not like Star Trek stuff.

It's not surprising that it bears some resemblance to Star Trek... Interstellar is supposedly about space exploration, which is what Star Trek claims to be about.

 

[green]

At least you can admit what others never would. Props.

Lol, I have no issues discussing my love/hate for Nolan, just need to tread carefully because Nolan fans can be a bit aggressive.

 

[redfirebird2008]

That Star Trek teaser literally gives absolutely nothing about the story and the "footage" is pointless. The movie itself turned out great.

Only reason fans liked the teaser was because it was from a known franchise. If it was for any other movie people would call it a worthless teaser. Same thing applies with Nolan and his name (known brand).

 

[Travesty]

Lol, I have no issues discussing my love/hate for Nolan, just need to tread carefully because Nolan fans can be a bit aggressive.

 

[redhawk23]

Dude, you had said the Interstellar trailer was like discovery channel stuff, not like Star Trek stuff.

It's not surprising that it bears some resemblance to Star Trek... Interstellar is supposedly about space exploration, which is what Star Trek claims to be about.

Again, NASA montages, which play frequently on the Science channel and Discovery. The Enterprise opening credits is also largely a history of aerospace and pioneering. It was also quite similar to a series of car ads that played all last year trying to tie the car into various moments of progress with the same "We need to remember our pioneer spirit." My point is there are a lot of ads and things using the same rhetoric and quite often the same NASA footage and the Interstellar trailer doesn't really stand out. I was just explaining my very "meh" reaction. The Inception teaser evoked a response of "What even was that? Who is screaming wake me up?' It made me want to see more.

 

[redhawk23]

That Star Trek teaser literally gives absolutely nothing about the story and the "footage" is pointless. The movie itself turned out great.

Only reason fans liked the teaser was because it was from a known franchise. If it was for any other movie people would call it a worthless teaser. Same thing applies with Nolan and his name (known brand).

The welders building the Enterprise was an interesting image similar to the Terminator 2 factory ad, combined with the same kind of uplifiting "Let's go to space" message that this teaser uses.

 

[the dmg]

I'll wait for the actual trailer.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Again, NASA montages, which play frequently on the Science channel and Discovery. The Enterprise opening credits is also largely a history of aerospace and pioneering. It was also quite similar to a series of car ads that played all last year trying to tie the car into various moments of progress with the same "We need to remember our pioneer spirit." My point is there are a lot of ads and things using the same rhetoric and quite often the same NASA footage and the Interstellar trailer doesn't really stand out. I was just explaining my very "meh" reaction. The Inception teaser evoked a response of "What even was that? Who is screaming wake me up?' It made me want to see more.

The "wake me up" thing was not in the Inception teaser trailer. It was in a later trailer.

I have a feeling Nolan's 2 hour movie will have a lot more to say in a much more convincing fashion than a car commercial that is simply trying to push product.

Plus no one actually wants to hear NASA lobbying for more funding. It's the old saying that no one likes to hear "woe is me." The push needs to come from someone else. A feature length film that explores this issue in more depth could be more effective.

 

[Rocketman]

I don't think the goal for Nolan or WB/Paramount is for this film to make a billion dollars. And it won't. In fact, the co-distribution sort of confirms that neither company will lose much money, because they're both going in 50/50.

So, the goal of this film is to be an art film, and the November release date gives it the Oscar push because it's in Awards Season. This isn't trying to be The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers - it's trying to be the Oscar buzz film. It's an entirely different animal. So, box office numbers will probably be low, and it's expected.

But the issue of whether or not it will make Dark Knight/Inception/Dark Knight Rises numbers is irrelevant. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on par with Batman Begins and The Prestige. The goal appears to be getting Nolan out of the "comic book funk" that he's in and establish him as a REAL filmmaker who should be taken seriously, especially at the Oscars. Now, whether or not Nolan actually cares about this, who knows. I doubt he does. But I bet WB/Paramount cares VERY much.

I mean, don't forget, these two competing companies came together for this one movie. That's not a common thing. There are suits on both sides of the line who know that it's something special. That alone indicates that this has a serious - I mean serious - chance of sweeping the Oscars.

 

[redfirebird2008]

I don't think the goal for Nolan or WB/Paramount is for this film to make a billion dollars. And it won't. In fact, the co-distribution sort of confirms that neither company will lose much money, because they're both going in 50/50.

So, the goal of this film is to be an art film, and the November release date gives it the Oscar push because it's in Awards Season. This isn't trying to be The Dark Knight Rises or The Avengers - it's trying to be the Oscar buzz film. It's an entirely different animal. So, box office numbers will probably be low, and it's expected.

But the issue of whether or not it will make Dark Knight/Inception/Dark Knight Rises numbers is irrelevant. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on par with Batman Begins and The Prestige. The goal appears to be getting Nolan out of the "comic book funk" that he's in and establish him as a REAL filmmaker who should be taken seriously, especially at the Oscars. Now, whether or not Nolan actually cares about this, who knows. I doubt he does. But I bet WB/Paramount cares VERY much.

I mean, don't forget, these two competing companies came together for this one movie. That's not a common thing. There are suits on both sides of the line who know that it's something special. That alone indicates that this has a serious - I mean serious - chance of sweeping the Oscars.

It's not gonna be an art film. It's a mainstream big budget spectacle. And it definitely will not sweep the Oscars. The only reason WB got in on this film was because their head honcho at the time (Jeff Robinov) wanted to make sure they still had a relationship with Nolan. Robinov is gone now. I don't think Nolan will be working with WB after Interstellar.

 

[DACrowe]

WB would not give up the rights to Friday the 13th and South Park movies if they thought this was an art film. It is going to be a huge and ambitious sci-film with Oscar ambitions. But that is like calling The Lord of the Rings films or Gravity art films. Just because they are not superhero films does not make them movies that part of the film festival circuit.

 

[Bim]

Teaser didnt do much for me. Hopefully a full trailer can get me interested.

 

[DA_Champion]

It's not gonna be an art film. It's a mainstream big budget spectacle. And it definitely will not sweep the Oscars.

The story is from Kip S. Thorne, one of the greatest minds of the past 50 years, that gives a lot of credibility as an "art film".

 

[jmc]

Again, NASA montages, which play frequently on the Science channel and Discovery. The Enterprise opening credits is also largely a history of aerospace and pioneering. It was also quite similar to a series of car ads that played all last year trying to tie the car into various moments of progress with the same "We need to remember our pioneer spirit." My point is there are a lot of ads and things using the same rhetoric and quite often the same NASA footage and the Interstellar trailer doesn't really stand out. I was just explaining my very "meh" reaction. The Inception teaser evoked a response of "What even was that? Who is screaming wake me up?' It made me want to see more.

That wasn't the teaser. That was trailer one. Inception teaser was shorter than Interstellar, contained a handful of shots from the film, the only one of note was a brief glimpse of the hallway anti-gravity scene, no dialog and the tag line 'Your Mind is the Scene of the Crime. That was pretty much it.

 

[rashad]

Teaser didnt do much for me. Hopefully a full trailer can get me interested.

The cast alone for this film should have you interested.

 

[Gold Samurai]

Every NASA montage ever.

The opening Credits of Star Trek: Enterprise

Was anyone else thinking of "Enterprise" during the space montage? LOL

It's been a long road

Get'n from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near

I will see my dreams come alive at last
I will touch the sky
And they're not gonna hold me down no more
No they're not gonna change my mind

(Chorus)
'Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
No one's going to bend nor break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith
Faith of the heart

 

[kvz5]

It's not gonna be an art film. It's a mainstream big budget spectacle. And it definitely will not sweep the Oscars. The only reason WB got in on this film was because their head honcho at the time (Jeff Robinov) wanted to make sure they still had a relationship with Nolan. Robinov is gone now. I don't think Nolan will be working with WB after Interstellar.

Yup. Also, I feel pretty confident that Nolan's next film might be with Disney (that's where Horn is right now, right?) or maybe with Paramount again if he had a great experience with them. Where is Robinov headed? Fox?