Interstellar - Part 7

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after all those years i still can not understand the internet fanboys. why why why is it so important to them that everyone else likes a movie as much as them?why cant a good movie have a rotten lower than 90% or 80% ?

am i standing in the middle of 13 year old boys or what?

Completely agree. The Prestige is arguably Nolan's best work and has nowhere near the critical praise of his other famous movies.

Then you have a movie like Forrest Gump that apparently had mixed critical reception, but that is one of my favorite movies ever and clearly it had an impact on many, many people judging by its legs at the box office.

2001 is sort of a miracle. It was initially met with mixed/negative reception. But somewhere around a month after its theatrical release, it grew strong word of mouth to become a big box office hit and later became viewed as a masterpiece by many people.

At the end of the day, I am even more intrigued to see Interstellar after reading some of the reviews today.
 
The film's already gone from 64% to 74% since the last time I checked. Interstellar has a 77 right now on metacritic which is higher than Inception, Batman Begins, Insomnia and The Prestige. Interstellar is doing fine critically. Not to mention 81 is considered universal praise on metacritic so 77 is quite good, actually.
 
Completely agree. The Prestige is arguably Nolan's best work and has nowhere near the critical praise of his other famous movies.

Then you have a movie like Forrest Gump that apparently had mixed critical reception, but that is one of my favorite movies ever and clearly it had an impact on many, many people judging by its legs at the box office.

2001 is sort of a miracle. It was initially met with mixed/negative reception. But somewhere around a month after its theatrical release, it grew strong word of mouth to become a big box office hit and later became viewed as a masterpiece by many people.

At the end of the day, I am even more intrigued to see Interstellar after reading some of the reviews today.

Agreed.
 
Also this is just the first influx of reviews there's still many to go. And besides once the film is out nobody really cares.
 
If there is one common thing I've seen in the few reviews I've read it's this (the spoilered part could actually be a large spoiler).

And yet, despite his seemingly limitless imagination, the director's ambition ultimately threatens to get the better of him, particularly in the final stretch of the film's bum-numbing, 168-minute running time. With high concept piling up on top of high concept, Nolan’s steady grip on the plot loosens, as space-time conundrums, new dimensions and
even the suggestion of extraterrestrial higher powers
collide in a cacophony of increasingly difficult-to-swallow revelations.
 
20 reviews in and RT has a "consensus" statement already.

Critics Consensus: Interstellar represents more of the thrilling, thought-provoking, and visually resplendent filmmaking moviegoers have come to expect from writer-director Christopher Nolan, even if its intellectual reach somewhat exceeds its grasp.
Seems a tad early for that.
 
So once again, too much ambition is Nolan's Kryptonite? Makes me even more excited to see this, actually.

It will be interesting to see the TDKR Vs Interstellar polls come up about a month after the film is released, lol.
 
It does seem though just from these early reviews that maybe it's not the best pic contender some were hoping for. Same for Nolan for directing.
 
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Also be careful because some reviews are ruining the cameo.
 
It really sounds the last 30 minutes has a pull the rug from under you type moment.
 
It does seem though just from these early reviews that maybe it's not the best pic contender some were hoping for. Same for Nolan for directing.

Still too early to say. I'd say it's pretty decidedly an underdog in the BP race, but I think a directing nomination is still very much on the table, with a token BP nomination as well. Throw in some technical categories and the movie will no doubt have a presence come awards season.

It seems the industry (SAG in particular) love the film more than the critics do. That's a good thing as far as its Oscar chances go.

http://deadline.com/2014/10/interstellar-oscar-race-how-far-will-it-fly-862724/
 
Also, keep in mind that most of these reviews aren't from the "top" critics. I'm not sure about all these lower profile reviewers, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of them are of the "Christopher Nolan is ruining cinema" mindset.
 
But what they are talking about is not small. It is macro to the core. It is the same with the Joker/Harvey scene.

I get what people don't like about the Ferry boat/SWAT scene, but outside of one really clunky bit of action, I love it. I considering a bit hamfisted, but not stupid. Stupid, is the microwave emitter.

yeah, i can understand not feeling the Ferry boat/SWAT scene as an action sequence or whatever, but the thing is that the action is sort of incidental. it's all about setting up a dramatic climax that leads to the film's solidification of The Dark Knight as a postmodern symbol of hope (the idea being that humanity can attain goodness but hope is a necessary element of that and sometimes hope is more important than the details that surround it...then TDKR brings that back to saying, "hey, but some sort of fundamental truth is important, too"...it's kind of a philosophical dialogue going on between the two films and really Batman Begins, too, in terms of what it means for a human to become a symbol).

i can't fathom any cinephile not feeling what the scene results in, that final monologue for Joker, which has got to be my favorite final villain monologue ever. i mean, when the camera/world essentially turns upside down as the Joker talks and the realization dawns that perhaps chaos/nihilism has triumphed and everything else is futile and, maybe, Joker's insanity in an insane world is the only true form of sanity...that camera move seriously goes down as one of my all-time favs in terms of the wealth of meaning it contains in a such a small, non-flashy gesture. it is an exceedingly powerful, provocative moment that's almost totally convincing in its impact, which is why it's so great that TDK manages to come up with a sufficient rebuttal in terms of Batman's willingness to soil his own image in order to combat it and preserve some sense of hope in Gotham's residents, the very act of personal sacrifice a demonstrative counter to Joker's position.
 
but, while very connected thematically to the rest of the film, Two Face's final tirade was a little too long/on-the-nose given the context. i would have tweaked that a bit.
 
yeah, i can understand not feeling the Ferry boat/SWAT scene as an action sequence or whatever, but the thing is that the action is sort of incidental. it's all about setting up a dramatic climax that leads to the film's solidification of The Dark Knight as a postmodern symbol of hope (the idea being that humanity can attain goodness but hope is a necessary element of that and sometimes hope is more important than the details that surround it...then TDKR brings that back to saying, "hey, but some sort of fundamental truth is important, too"...it's kind of a philosophical dialogue going on between the two films and really Batman Begins, too, in terms of what it means for a human to become a symbol).

i can't fathom any cinephile not feeling what the scene results in, that final monologue for Joker, which has got to be my favorite final villain monologue ever. i mean, when the camera/world essentially turns upside down as the Joker talks and the realization dawns that perhaps chaos/nihilism has triumphed and everything else is futile and, maybe, Joker's insanity in an insane world is the only true form of sanity...that camera move seriously goes down as one of my all-time favs in terms of the wealth of meaning it contains in a such a small, non-flashy gesture. it is an exceedingly powerful, provocative moment that's almost totally convincing in its impact, which is why it's so great that TDK manages to come up with a sufficient rebuttal in terms of Batman's willingness to soil his own image in order to combat it and preserve some sense of hope in Gotham's residents, the very act of personal sacrifice a demonstrative counter to Joker's position.
I really do adore that scene. There is a lot to it, including the Batman '89 nod.
 
I can already sense the Nolanites losing their collective **** over these reviews. Time to pop me some corn and watch the festivities.
 
Eh, to be honest...it's been surprisingly civil both here and at Nolanfaps. I'm pleasantly surprised with how people are taking it...so far.
 
You want people to read? :funny:

yeah, i mean, any system that tries to quantify a subjective overall reaction to a piece of art is gonna be massively, inherently flawed. it's fun to interact with those types of gauges but it's ultimately sort of "absured."

i like to read the reviews of the guys i most trust (right now, a couple of my friends and then Drew McWeeny and Walter Chaw) but i never agree with any of them 100%. forming your own opinion is, really, what most art wants you to do, anyways.

i haven't seen Interstellar, obvs, but it is interesting to note this growing trend of "it was too ambitious and failed on the execution" and so then the critic ends up giving the ambitious but flawed movie a lower rating than, i dunno, Battleship. i mean, i guess you can value the execution well over the degree of difficulty and that's perfectly valid, but for me ambition and execution are of equal merit (perhaps i even value the ambition a bit more since there is so little of it coming out of Hollywood these days).

no doubt, Nolan's movies can get a bit clunky at times and sometimes that only gets magnified because of how ambitious they are, but as someone else was saying, i've come to accept those "flaws" as part and parcel with some of the same things that i love about his movies (such as, the fact that he's even trying to convey some heady concepts but doing so through the vehicles of large-scale, popcorn genre movies).

can't wait to see this movie.
 
I feel like RT has been really quick on the "Concensus" trigger lately. Could be wrong but it feels that way. I'd wait until like 100 reviews for all that.
 
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