Super Kal
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and you're exactly right, you forgotten one big thing concerning Superman: Superman is a novelty. you also forget the following movies:You're twisting things. You know damn good and well that WB would never put that in a movie. That's not intended for movie use...it's a novelty.
Superman Lives
Batman Forever
Batman and Robin
Warner Bros is a company. Superman is a franchise, and just like Batman, they will do anything they can to make money out of it. The nipple suits from BF and B&R were seen as one of the worst suits of its time in comic book movie hist, without delving into the story... Warner Bros were extremely close to making the Superman lives project a reality until Tim Burton backed out of the project... Superman, to Warner Bros, is nothing more than a franchise, a novelty, a cash cow... and they will do anything to make money off of their biggest multibillion dollar investment
Chill out buddy...
i am and still am perfectly chill, Dorkyfresh...
i was just simply taking his perspective to its logical conclusion; and like you said earlier... everyone was calm until other certain individuals came in
personal opinion. I happen to think that it worked great for its time, and when muted slightly, and have updated material, it would work great again, and i will stand by thatReeves exact suit would look lame to todays audience.And that was my point.I have not seen a live action Superman that visually looks cool to todays audience.
no, they were not created to look the same as the 1980's costume. they were created, possibly, to fit the body proportion of Brandon Routh's body, who had very much an hourglass figure... and yes, many things, not just "the trunks" (as some would say), hindered that suit... but concerning the trunks, the material used did not help, since it constricted and made Routh's musculature even smaller. the design of his body also did not help in trying to design trunks for him; Routh does not have a boxy mid-section. the decision to also slant the belt line into the crotch area was also a bad choice because it gave the visual impression that the trunks were caving into his junk.The Trunks in this![]()
Were designed to look the same as this.![]()
Its not Singers fault that in live action it looks as lingerie.It just does.which only stresses my piont
something that I've noticed about the trunks is that ever since his creation, in the movie world at least, his trunks have gotten smaller in the passing of 50 years... in a fashion sense, though Singer decided to make them smaller. maybe it was the design of Routh's body, still not sure, but it did not help the suit at all... it did not help the suit not because it was simply trunks-- it didn't help because of the way they were designed. one can design trunks to be an effective tool
also concerning that SR promo pic, the perspective of where the picture was taken hurt that picture very much.
no, it's not "the answer", friend... it's only your personal opinion. in my personal opinion, the STM suit did fine for its time, and, once again, Superman doesn't have to wear trunks specifically in order to successfully maintain balance in his suit... he simply needs a different color to help distinguish the proportions of his bodyYou are msising my entire point.I was strictly talking on the visual aspect of Superman-put quite simply does he look cool in the trunks in live action.The answer is no,he doesnt and the trunks actually detract from his cool factor because they either look like lingerie or oversized grammy panties in live action.
I dont read the Action Comics they put out today... i find the new version of this so-called "Superman" to be very much an insult to the original run of Superman in the late 1930's... then i guess you and i have a different view on the definition of "bad-a**". the Superman being described in the early run of his career, i dont see as bad-a**" at all... to me, i see him as a person taking justice personally, a man who is taking the law into his own hands... i see him as a vigilante in that time- and that was perfectly fine for the time. personally, that's not "bad-a**" to me. now, is the Superman of today still a vigilante?... well, that depends on who you ask on here.This is so very VERY wrong.The original Superman-Golden age Superman- was the definition of Badass.He fought for the oppressed and Justice even if it meant breaking the law,or killing.He was a Champion and he knew it and took pide in it.
You can read Morrisons Action comics as it it is pretty much a modernisation of the Golden age Superman.The boyscout crap started with comicbook censorship and American propaganda.
My bad.By promo pic I thought you were referring to set pics.
So your wife did see set pics. .I can understand how those influenced your wives opinion of the suit-they are terrible.The set pics of Superman make him look lacking in the midsection and put focuses on his crotch like the trunks did.But then again the entire suit looks terrible in set pics not just the midsection.It is after all set pics they are gonna look bad.This is in stark contrast to the SDCC footage where the suit looks a lot more richer in color,regal and plain badass.We however did not see the midsection of Supermans suit in the SDCC footage becaue his handcuffed arms are blocking it.Chances are it will look a whole lot better in live action than in the set pics just like the rest of the suit did.
i've been following this since before i got married, and she's been 'eh" about it the whole time... she saw the set pics, she saw the promotional picture finally, she saw the behind-the-scenes photos, and what little you can see of the SDCC footage.. and she still doesn't like the lack of the red trunks. She personally said that it makes his package look too big... that's her opinion. and even if i did love this suit, nothing you or i can say will change her mind.
and concerning the set pics, that's where you're wrong. the suit in set pics does not look entirely terrible... the suit actually looks almost halfway decent; those set pics show an amazing view on how the cape is going to react to the wind, and that's something i really, REALLY love concerning this suit

but you bring up an interesting point about the picture focusing on the mid-section: those pictures focus on the mid-section solely because of the lack of balance in the suit. because of the red shield/cape attachment and the red boots, there is nothing there to create balance in the middle, like DorkyFresh has stated earlier. when you dont have balance, yes, your eyes will be directed to the imbalance
you need to remember that while i love the STM suit for its faithfulness to the comics of the time, im not an ultra-mega diehard like some on here... i dont mind if the trunks are gone. the only thing i'm saying, again, is that if the trunks are gone, put something else that will balance out ther suit... something of a different color, so that the the suit evens out and brings a little balance in the subconscious mind
Super Kal, you need to to tone down your criticisms. You don't like the movie suit? Fine. The suit is not going to change it no matter how loud you scream. You're becoming really annoying and if this continues, this thread is going to get closed again.
i'm not screaming in the least bit, UaalaDan. if i scream in a message board, it will possibly be in all caps and riddled with lots of exclamation points

you're right, i dont have to like the movie suit... but im not screaming. you guys have got to remember something: this is the costume thread. this thread is and was specifically made for conversations such as this. i have not screamed or yelled in any way. i have remained civil, calm, and polite in my conversations and debate, i have not insulted, baited, flamed, resulted to ad hominems, or broken any rules of this forum by posting about the suit in this thread... and as long as people can stay civil, the thread wont be shut down
just because someone writes a long answer to another long post doesn't mean someone is yelling at the other person... it means they're simply responding back. the only reason im becoming annoying to you, UaalaDan, is because you dont like what my opinion... and that's fine by me. however, many people on these entire forums are annoying in more ways than one, and those threads are still going strong... and a thread does not close because someone is annoying; a thread closes because of baiting, flaming, and ad hominem attacks.