James Bond In Skyfall - Part 10

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99% sure it is Tom Ford. All the little details are the same, but would need to see the label to confirm. It appears to be from the same O'Connor line that is featured in the film except it is the two button jacket variant. Ironically, the 2 button version is what is being sold and promoted as the Bond "Skyfall" suit design by Tom Ford retailers despite Craig actually wearing the 3 button variant in the film. I really don't understand why they opted for the 3 button variant in the film. 2 button suit jackets is far more Bondian. Connery exclusively wore 2 button suits as Bond and Moore did the same other than his occasional double-breasted suits. Bond wearing predominantly 3 button suits was something initiated by Lindy Hemming with Brosnan in Goldeneye. Lazenby and Dalton wore 3 button jackets with their 3 piece suits, but otherwise favoured 2 button jackets if I remember correctly.

Additionally, the suit Craig is wearing there is fitted more traditionally than his Skyfall suits (Tom Ford actually isn't a fan of the super tight, shrunken look that Craig wears in Skyfall. Colin Firth actually wears the same model of Tom Ford Suit as Bond in Ford's film A Single Man and it is fitted rather differently from Bond's) I personally think it looks more flattering and Bondian than his fit in Skyfall.

You may find this to be an interesting read:

On Her Majesty’s Secret Service: The Primer for Skyfall

http://clothesonfilm.com/on-her-majestys-secret-service-the-primer-for-skyfall/27986/
 
Just rewatched Goldfinger. I take back what I said about it being slightly overhyped: It's an amazing piece of cinema and an awesome jetset 60's time capsule.

The funny thing is how it looks so beautiful (thanks to the cinematography) along with the locations, and yet when it came to the Moore era, half of his films look cheap. I mean, 70's TV show budget cheap. I love the 70's kitchiness and all, but following the 60's it was a step back.

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I thought I was the only one who thought that about some of Moore's movies.
 
It is true of Connery too. Diamonds Are Forever and Never Say Never Again look really cheap compared to Thunderball and You Only Live Twice.
 
Just rewatched Goldfinger. I take back what I said about it being slightly overhyped: It's an amazing piece of cinema and an awesome jetset 60's time capsule.

The funny thing is how it looks so beautiful (thanks to the cinematography) along with the locations, and yet when it came to the Moore era, half of his films look cheap. I mean, 70's TV show budget cheap. I love the 70's kitchiness and all, but following the 60's it was a step back.

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I thought I was the only one who thought that about some of Moore's movies.

I think The Spy Who Loved Me's production values were great, especially the Egypt and the submarine scenes. They built a whole new studio for the submarine scenes.
 
The first three movies of the '70s definitely looked cheap, for Bond movies anyway - particularly The Man with the Golden Gun. The Spy Who Loved Me was a terrific return to form; that one actually has scale to it and impressive production value.
 
I think The Spy Who Loved Me's production values were great, especially the Egypt and the submarine scenes. They built a whole new studio for the submarine scenes.

Oh yes, not all of Moore's movies are guilty of it. Hence why I said some of his movies. TSWLM had some first rate set pieces. One of the reasons why I think it's Moore's best one.
 
I would say four Moore films look really good (TSWLM, MR, FYEO, and OP). The other three do not. The first two occurred during a low point of the franchise. I'm not sure what happened on AVTAK since I love the look of the surrounding films.
 
Everything Or Nothing: The Untold Story of 007 is a nice little documentary. I wasn't aware that Brosnan was cast before Dalton. I feel so bad for the guy. He loved the part with all of his being and it just never quite worked; at least we have Goldeneye.
 
Yeah, Brosnan got screwed over by EON badly. Brosnan wanted the series to go darker and serious, but EON kept putting a square peg in a circular hole by forcing the movies into the Bond formula instead of making them unique.
 
Everything Or Nothing: The Untold Story of 007 is a nice little documentary. I wasn't aware that Brosnan was cast before Dalton. I feel so bad for the guy. He loved the part with all of his being and it just never quite worked; at least we have Goldeneye.


Really? That's like James bond history 101.

http://www.cigaraficionado.com/webfeatures/show/id/Brosnan-Pierce-Brosnan_6003/p/6


As his El Rey del Mundo burns down low, Brosnan comes to his first rendezvous with Bond. In 1986, Albert "Cubby" Broccoli, the famous Bond producer, was looking for the right man to take the mantle from Roger Moore. Brosnan was exactly what Broccoli had in mind. "I was offered the Bond, I tested for the Bond, came here to the studio. I had been through wardrobe and had even been photographed with the late Cubby Broccoli. But there was a clause in my contract [for "Remington Steele"] that said if the show got canceled, NBC had 60 days to try to place it with another network." On the 59th day, NBC decided to renew the series, and Mary Tyler Moore Productions refused to let him out of his contract.
 
Yeah, Brosnan got screwed over by EON badly. Brosnan wanted the series to go darker and serious, but EON kept putting a square peg in a circular hole by forcing the movies into the Bond formula instead of making them unique.

Which is very unfortunate because Brosnan was an excellent Bond. Now, he must watch Craig get to do Bond films closer to what he wanted to do with the series.
 
Which is very unfortunate because Brosnan was an excellent Bond. Now, he must watch Craig get to do Bond films closer to what he wanted to do with the series.

Not unless he believes he's not meant to see them.

http://filmonic.com/pierce-brosnan-hasnt-seen-craigs-bond-2011

“I haven’t seen Daniel in the role. I tried watching [Casino Royale] on an airplane,” he says. “I thought 37,000 feet was a good distance to watch it from and it broke down right at the beginning. The attendant came and changed it and it broke down a second time, so I figured ‘OK. The Gods must be saying something . . .’
“So I never went near it! I just thought, ‘let sleeping dogs lie.’ I got the Academy screener for the last one [Quantum of Solace] and I turned it on for my boys and I left them to it. I didn’t go near it.”

And straight from his mouth


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUJwB1RiI4w

Go to the 5 minute mark
 
Which is very unfortunate because Brosnan was an excellent Bond. Now, he must watch Craig get to do Bond films closer to what he wanted to do with the series.

I just don't get what others see in Brosnan. I guess it's because I grew up a fan of the novels and, as a result, I've always preferred Bond to have a certain toughness. Brosnan, despite his admirable attempts at times to bring a darker edge to the role, was too much of a dandy for me. Those attempts are never quite convincing. He never moved quite right. As superficial as this will sound, part of it was his appearance. He was too good looking in a boyish sort of way. The books always talk about Bond being cruelly handsome, which I take to be a more rugged appearance.
 
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I want to see that 20-minute documentary, is it too spoilery? Should I avoid it?
 
I though Brosnan was fine. I don't think Pierce was a prettyboy. You could argue Brosnan wasn't much of a tough guy but neither was Roger Moore and people like him as Bond.
 
I though Brosnan was fine. I don't think Pierce was a prettyboy. You could argue Brosnan wasn't much of a tough guy but neither was Roger Moore and people like him as Bond.

Well, I don't like Moore either, but people at least tend to qualify their like for him. ie. "Moore was great for what he was. (a Bond parody)", "Moore made the role his own (played a character that shared little in common with Fleming's Bond, but did it with great comic timing and charisma)". Brosnan's Bond really wasn't that different from Moore's except he lacked the benefit of childhood nolstalgia for most viewers, so, personally, I can't see a convincing argument for him being an excellent Bond. (at least if we start from the premise that a good Bond portrayal has some of Fleming's creation in it)
 
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If this makes sense, but I thought Brosnan got progresively better as Bond with each outing but each film got worse and worse in quality. Well maybe not worse and worse (excluding DaD) but were creativtly stagnant and dull.

He did a good job in Goldeneye though half of his dialog were one liners. Seriously. It came off as weird then funny. And at time he almost came off as uncomfortable in the role which is normal I guess. Flat would be the word.
 
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If this makes sense, but I thought Brosnan got progresively better as Bond with each outing but each film got worse and worse in quality.

He did a good job in Goldeneye though half of his dialog were one liners. Seriously. It came off as weird then funny. And at time he almost came off as uncomfortable in the role which is normal..

I was never a fan of goldeneye. I think my favorite Brosnan bond was the first 30 minutes of Die Another Day. The rest im very meh about.
 
I was never a fan of goldeneye. I think my favorite Brosnan bond was the first 30 minutes of Die Another Day. The rest im very meh about.

Don't kill me people but..

I liked Goldeneye but there's something about it where it's a solid B but it gets an A due to Brosnan's other, lesser films. It's a good movie but I think Bond himself was badly written. And while I love Sean Bean, I can't say he was a great villain. He's barely in the film.

Also I hated the stupid highway scene with Bond racing with Onatopp. It's overly long and the music sounded like Seinfeld.
 
I'm not the kind of person who bothers to do the math of precisely how long a certain character is in a film in order to prove how important said character is, but I'm thinking there are great villains who have less screentime than Trevelyan. Trevelyan's a great villain because he as a character acted as what Scaramanga was apparently supposed to be: a dark mirror image of Bond. And of course he was all the more effective because his scheme made some sense and fit him, and, more importantly, he had served alongside Bond, so he knew him and his history.
 
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