James Bond In Skyfall - - - Part 12

[Marvolo]

D'oh, that's what it was! I was trying to think of different names for wines and spirits, but that for some reason escaped me.

Still, the 1962 on the bottle was a clever Easter egg.

It was a neat easter egg. One i completely missed. When silva said it was a fifty year old macallan that caught my attention, tho lol.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

Just remembered another obvious nod:

Spoiler

Casino Royale: Bond's line about it not being his first time while he's tied to a chair.

 

[The Guard]

Was there a vodka martini moment in this one?

 

[Marvin]

Is all this Roger Deakins talk on my facebook pointing to anything beyond the fact that the film looked about as "pretty" as many films of the recent past? I mean was there some level of genius cinematic visual story telling I'm missing to garner all this praise or was the films scenery really that beautiful.

again, at a loss.

 

[Man in the Suit]

Well, it is the best looking movie shot digitally.

 

[TheVileOne]

Was there a vodka martini moment in this one?

Yes, he's served a shaken vodka martini, but he never says the line.

 

[echostation]

Yes there is a point to all of the praise for Deakins... his work here is just absolutely breathtaking... exemplary and simply phenomenal. I loved it on every end.

 

[Octoberist]

Just remembered another obvious nod:

Spoiler

Casino Royale: Bond's line about it not being his first time while he's tied to a chair.

Well to the more initiative, it's meant to be a nod to that but I think it plays better (and clever) as a double entendre of a sexual variety.

 

[Octoberist]

Saw the film the second today. I'm giving it a 9. It's even better the second time around.

Again, I think Severine's role was handled coldly. My opinion has not changed. [BLACKOUT]It's not so much she died, it's the fact that Bond had lacked any sympathy for her when she gets shot (who was bruised up prior), only for the movie to play the upbeat Bond theme with the patriotic M16 helicopters fly by to save the day..while her sad little corpse is just dangling in the background.[/BLACKOUT] It's a weird shot, and I wish there was just one more scene with Bond and her.

I loved [BLACKOUT]Tiago Rodriguez[/BLACKOUT]...errr...Rauol Silva, but sometimes I don't understand some of 'over-the-topness' especially his laugh or weird tics.

f he was a complete mystery like The Joker, where ambiguity is a part of his character, then I'll get it. But we get enough of Silva's tragic background that I couldn't tell what Javier, Mendes, or Logan was trying to do with the character. Was he always been a little eccentric all his life? [BLACKOUT] Did his capture in HK or deformity made him super neurotic? [/BLACKOUT] So he came off as a little uneven to me, BUT still was able to be a stand-out thanks to Javier.

 

[Slushy]

Why should Felix Leiter have been in the film, there was no place for him being in the story...

He could've sent a video message at the least given the events of the opening sequence or the attack on MI6.

Wow, did you realize all that by yourself?
Some of those are pretty interesting.

I did a Bond marathon recently since I got the Blu-Ray box set.

Also anyone notice the unwritten rule in craig bond films so far?

Tragedy for Bond in all his movies so far.

Spoiler

CR - loses Vesper

QOS - loses Mathis (I really hated this.)

SF - loses M

Hoping the next one breaks this cycle.

Yes, he's served a shaken vodka martini, but he never says the line.

I'm glad they did that to shut up all the Heneiken haters. t:

 

[Octoberist]

When Tanner mentioned the CIA, there could've been a quick line about Felix.

 

[AnneFan]

Again, I think Severine's role was handled coldly. My opinion has not changed. [BLACKOUT]It's not so much she died, it's the fact that Bond had lacked any sympathy for her when she gets shot (who was bruised up prior), only for the movie to play the upbeat Bond theme with the patriotic M16 helicopters fly by to save the day..while her sad little corpse is just dangling in the background.[/BLACKOUT] It's a weird shot, and I wish there was just one more scene with Bond and her.

I don't see it as Bond lacking sympathy. Just because he quipped doesn't mean he didn't care. I see it as Bond hiding his feelings, pretending the moment didn't phase him or Silva got under his skin. Much like how he goes along with "who says it's my first time?" when Silva gets sexual. If he said stop, don't do that, it would've gotten more uncomfortable for Bond I'm sure, with Silva pouncing on his unease.

 

[Octoberist]

I get it to a certain degree. It's a game that he has to play as a spy. I think it was the way it was shot though, with the Bond theme playing and the helicopter hover heroically in the sky. Everyone's cheering because Bond has captured Silva...and...and...[BLACKOUT] then you got Severine's awkwardly positioned corpse just dangling there in the background. It came off as awkward.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[AnneFan]

Tragedy for Bond in all his movies so far.

Spoiler

CR - loses Vesper

QOS - loses Mathis (I really hated this.)

SF - loses M

Yeah, and no "Oh James!" type finales. Craig's Bond really is a lone wolf.

 

[Slushy]

I forgot to mention it felt like I was watching the sequel to Defiance near the end.

 

[Brain Damage]

Again, I think Severine's role was handled coldly.[BLACKOUT] My opinion has not changed. It's not so much she died, it's the fact that Bond had lacked any sympathy for her when she gets shot (who was bruised up prior), only for the movie to play the upbeat Bond theme with the patriotic M16 helicopters fly by to save the day..while her sad little corpse is just dangling in the background. [/BLACKOUT]It's a weird shot, and I wish there was just one more scene with Bond and her.

Spoiler

I didn't even notice she died, it looked like she ducked as he was shooting. I guess that solves my problem of wondering where the hell she went for the rest of the movie, but they could have certainly made it more clear that she bit the bullet.

 

[Dark Raven]

Thanks for the image *hurls*

I do wonder what dench would have been like in the 60's with connery

If you stuck old Dench back with Connery, he would've said "My dear girl... What I did this evening was for King and country. You don't think it gave me any pleasure, do you?"

 

[The Riddler]

not sure if i missed something, but i am totally confused as to the point of something:

Spoiler

why did the french assassin go through all the trouble of infiltrating a building, killing 4 guards, cutting a hole through a window, and then using a high powered sniper to assassinate a guy in the adjacent skyscraper? the others in the room with the target were in on the assassination...how does it make sense to have the assassin go through that much trouble (and pay him that much money) when they simply could have shot the dude in the freakin' head themselves?

skyfall gets a 4/10 from me.

 

[childeroland]

My guess is Silva knew

Spoiler

Bond was tracking Patrice and he was leaving breadcrumbs for the agent to follow to Severine and on to him.

 

[The Englishman]

not sure if i missed something, but i am totally confused as to the point of something:

Spoiler

why did the french assassin go through all the trouble of infiltrating a building, killing 4 guards, cutting a hole through a window, and then using a high powered sniper to assassinate a guy in the adjacent skyscraper? the others in the room with the target were in on the assassination...how does it make sense to have the assassin go through that much trouble (and pay him that much money) when they simply could have shot the dude in the freakin' head themselves?

skyfall gets a 4/10 from me.

And why does it only get a 4/10?

 

[spider-neil]

You could open a museum and have shots from the Skyfall movie as the museum pieces, I thought the movie looked 'that' good.
In fact there were moments where the beauty of the shot almost distracted me from the moment at hand. Like the neon lights behind the men fighting in the foreground in complete silhouette. Stunning.

Also the gunbarrel at the end was a distraction as I kept thinking throughout the movie 'where is it?'.
Yeah yeah, thematically it fits at the end but I would have preferred it at the start of the movie. It's a Bond movie and that's how Bond movies should start.

 

[Gianakin_]

I'm glad people still get greedy when it comes to traditional Bond elements and aren't happy no matter what.

 

[spider-neil]

I'm glad people still get greedy when it comes to traditional Bond elements and aren't happy no matter what.

To be fair to us greedy fans, it's a habit built up over 23 movies spanning over 50 years.

 

[Brain Damage]

You could open a museum and have shots from the Skyfall movie as the museum pieces, I thought the movie looked 'that' good.
In fact there were moments where the beauty of the shot almost distracted me from the moment at hand. Like the neon lights behind the men fighting in the foreground in complete silhouette. Stunning.

Also the gunbarrel at the end was a distraction as I kept thinking throughout the movie 'where is it?'.
Yeah yeah, thematically it fits at the end but I would have preferred it at the start of the movie. It's a Bond movie and that's how Bond movies should start.

Agreed.
Also the shot of M with all of the coffins was another one that's stuck in my memory.

 

[Gianakin_]

To be fair to us greedy fans, it's a habit built up over 23 movies spanning over 50 years.

That doesn't mean the alternative isn't good or great. It's a habit. Habits can be broken. And you yourself said that thematically the gunbarrel at the end made sense. Would you rather they didn't fulfill the theme's potential in order to adhere to a tradition that's nothing more than that? It's not like they omitted the gunbarrel.