James Bond In Skyfall - Part 7

[Doctor Jones]

That was pretty badass.

 

[Brian Braddock]

The ''If M was so sure I was bent............'' line from CR still cracks me up; every time I hear it I'm 13 again and in school.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Totally the new has to fit with story or something for film. And what's the point in taking a title from a fleming/other bond author book if its just the name. Plus out of the regularr fleming books haven't they used all the official fleming bond book titles?

There are a ton of titles left. I reemeber when Raymond Benson was gonna name High Time To Kill Tomorrow Never Dies. They said the title wasnt Bond enough and just used it as a chapter title ... then a year later they used the title for some Bond movie. Ian novel titles are exhausted, but chapter titles can be used. As well as titles and chapter titles from the other guys.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't really want to see a Bond movie named "The Undertaker's Wind". It sounds like it should be "The Mortician's Flatulence".

 

[Airwings]

By some peoples' logic, they shouldn't even have used Quantum of Solace as a title. Why? Because it's not needed to use every Fleming title just for the sake of it (in their opinion)

But the reason to use every Fleming story title, is because it connects very much with the world of Bond. Naming new films after them is a way to let us know there's still ties to Fleming's work other than just a few names (007, M, MI6 etc).
Unused titles from Fleming's short stories are Risico, Property of a Lady, The Hildebrand Rarity and 007 in New York. The three first can work as film titles, and the last one can give some very basic story ideas to use for the plot (or the opening sequence).

Personally, I think MGM just HAVE to use Risico, TPOAL and THR as titles before this franchise comes to an end. They can't avoid them forever. Since QOS was used - a very strange title for an action flic and it hardly makes any sense to give any film that name - every other unused title can be used too.
This is James Bond, after all, and those titles need to be in their own league. And with this said, Risico, TPOAL and THR are LESS strange than QOS.

Please guys, don't come with that "forced storytelling" speech again. Using any of the three unused titles is not more forced than it was in Quantum of Solace? Didn't it seem forced to you to have that title and come up with the company Quantum and squeeze it into the plot just because of the title? It was like "Hey guys, we use an unused Fleming title for the next film. Casino Royale was a success and we should have another original Fleming title again. But how to we connect it with the plot?"

And if anyone of you wonder if this is a serious post: Yes, it is!

 

[scifiwolf]

I don't think writers and filmmakers should be slaves to the source material. Yeah, sure, go ahead and incorporate elements - big or small - if it works. But if someone comes up with a really great story and vision, and they don't need the novels or short stories, then by no means should it automatically be dismissed or discredited. If they should find aspects of the source material, scenes, characters, plots, etc, then fine. However, if the titles don't fit the product that's being put out, then that's okay.

 

[Pittman4Two]

I watched Casino Royale again. As a big Bond fan, I have to say that it is my favorite. Thunderball was always #1 until I saw this.

I think it was a case of not having high expectations as I wasn't a big fan of Craig being chosen to play Bond. He is now my 2nd favorite Bond behind Connery.

I'm optimistic after viewing the Skyfall trailer. CR just sets the bar so high.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I find it interesting that Casino Royale and Thunderball are your favorite Bond films, as I feel both have the same main flaws. Mainly pacing problems and that both of them are about 30 minutes too long. Both also have good, but not great villains (Largo and Le Chiffre) that are not as interesting as their bosses that stay behind the scenes for most of the picture (Blofeld and White).

Don't get me wrong, they are both among the best Bond films and of the two Casino Royale is the one I prefer, but they are a step below From Russia with Love and Goldfinger.

 

[Ajendo]

Bah, Goldfinger is horrendously overrated.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I have Casuno Royale and Thundeball at #6 and #7 respectively on my favorite Bond movies. I've said my problems with Thundeball, so I'll talk about Casino Royale.

Yeah I agree that Le Cheiffe is a good, but not great villain, but my problems are more nitpicks than anything which affects my ranking of it. I wish there were more of the movie Bond motifs in the movie, like establishing Q and Moneypenny in the movie. Plus I wish Bond's humor was little less dry.

I think On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which I think is similar to Casino Royale in several ways does a better job with the climax, pacing, and the relationship between Bond and his love I feel is stronger, though CR does have a better Bond.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Bah, Goldfinger is horrendously overrated.

Goldfinger I really like, but my problem is that almost every Bond movie after started ripping it off.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I have Casuno Royale and Thundeball at #6 and #7 respectively on my favorite Bond movies. I've said my problems with Thundeball, so I'll talk about Casino Royale.

Yeah I agree that Le Cheiffe is a good, but not great villain, but my problems are more nitpicks than anything which affects my ranking of it. I wish there were more of the movie Bond motifs in the movie, like establishing Q and Moneypenny in the movie. Plus I wish Bond's humor was little less dry.

I think On Her Majesty's Secret Service, which I think is similar to Casino Royale in several ways does a better job with the climax, pacing, and the relationship between Bond and his love I feel is stronger, though CR does have a better Bond.

I do like Casino Royale better than OHMSS by virtue of having the better Bond, but OHMSS does have the better villain, a better climax, and Diana Rigg gives the best performance of any Bond girl. It really sags in the middle of the film when it has to get by with Lazenby's acting (although he was dubbed for much of it), and that part of the film doesn't really work.

OHMSS is the best Bond film ever from the point where he starts climbing the gondola cables, but much of the film prior to that isn't too good.

The best Bond films: From Russia with Love, Goldfinger, and The Spy Who Loved Me, are great from start to finish. OHMSS isn't.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Goldfinger I really like, but my problem is that almost every Bond movie after started ripping it off.

You can't fault Goldfinger for that, anymore than blaming Jaws for all the horrible summer blockbusters we have gotten over the years.

 

[The Englishman]

Oh we are not going through our favourite Bond films again are we, my top two are Casino Royale and Thunderball as well...

 

[Roose Bolton]

From Russia with Love and GoldenEye for me.

 

[Doctor Jones]

CR stumps OHMSS because it has Craig over Lazenby. Bond has to carry the movie. Everything else can be great, but if everything else is better than its main character... uh... I'm not gonna like it as much.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Goldfinger I really like, but my problem is that almost every Bond movie after started ripping it off.

This is my problem too. The shame is that we're familiar with the Bond staples and when I finally see Goldfinger, it's kind of spoiled and familiar. But if I separate that idea from the film, it is a bit overrated to me.

Those gangster Goldfinger meets for one thing. Damn, were they your regular cheesy stereotypical gangsters.

"Ahhh, shayyy whats the big ideaa Goldfingaaa?"

Not only that, but part of what makes the Bond films special are the locations. The locations in Goldfinger are pretty underwhelming after we got Dr. No and From Russia With Love. Connery and Goldfinger and their scenes and the writing and ***** are the most enjoyable aspects of the film to me.

 

[redhawk23]

Then Casino Royale must have been a h*ll of forced storytelling, because they used very much from the book.
And with Quantum of Solace, they forced in a company that was called Quantum.

Casino Royale wasn't forced because they were adapting the book, they were telling that story.

But yeah simply shoe horning in things to use a left over title is un-necessary.

Also, its not as if Quantum came out at all that great.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

This is my problem too. The shame is that we're familiar with the Bond staples and when I finally see Goldfinger, it's kind of spoiled and familiar. But if I separate that idea from the film, it is a bit overrated to me.

Those gangster Goldfinger meets for one thing. Damn, were they your regular cheesy stereotypical gangsters.

"Ahhh, shayyy whats the big ideaa Goldfingaaa?"

Not only that, but part of what makes the Bond films special are the locations. The locations in Goldfinger are pretty underwhelming after we got Dr. No and From Russia With Love. Connery and Goldfinger and their scenes and the writing and ***** are the most enjoyable aspects of the film to me.

Switzerland and Kentucky were pretty good, but not in my top James Bond locations.

My top 5:

1) Japan - You Only Live Twice
2) India - Octopussy
3) Egypt - The Spy Who Loved Me
4) Switzerland - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
5) Brazil - Moonraker

 

[Webhead2006]

Personally I don't care where a film's title comes from if its a totally made up title who cares. As for any remaining bond book titles/chapter titles if the story/theme of any future film fits for title then I don't see a problem with it.

 

[Ajendo]

Daniel Kleinman Joins Skyfall
29th June 2012
MI6 can confirm that Daniel Kleinman will once again direct the title sequence to the latest James Bond film, "Skyfall".

He first worked on the 007 series when Pierce Brosnan was making his debut in "GoldenEye" with a stunning sequence that highlighted the fall of the Iron Curtain with hammer and sickle iconography. Kleinman created the title sequences for all of Brosnan's outings, using digital technology and increasingly complex effects.

When the franchise rebooted in 2006 with Daniel Craig's "Casino Royale", the traditional silhouetted girls were gone, but instead fans were treated to a unique rotoscoped animation.

Director Marc Forster brought his preferred titles company MK12 in to create the "Quantum of Solace" credits, so "Skyfall" will be Kleinman's sixth Bond film after a break of six years.

Working under his company Rattling Stick, Kleinman is joined by his regular production designer John Ebden for the "Skyfall" sequence.

As MI6 reported last month, shooting for the sequence was already underway at Pinewood Studios. British model Charlotte Edwards tweeted that her friend and fellow model Natasha was filming material for "Skyfall"

Outside of his Bond duties, Kleinman is a leading British television commercial and music video director. He consistently wins the top awards for his advertising at Cannes, D&AD, the One Show, British Arrows, Clio, Creative Circle, Midsummer Awards to name but a few. The Gunn Report recognised him as the Most Awarded Director in the World and he has received the President’s Award from the British Arrows and Creative Circle. He has also been rated No1 in Shots Best Director list, was No1 in Campaign’s list of Top Directors for over four consecutive years and was was recently named US Commercial Director of the Decade in Ad Week.

 

[Gianakin_]

Excellent. Can't wait to see what he comes up with. Most, if not all, of his credit sequences were fantastic.

 

[The Englishman]

Hope it's in the style of Casino Royale again, that was his best one to date....

 

[Dark Raven]

Actually I'm hoping for the naked silhouetted girls to make a return in the title, especially for the 50th anniversary. Something like Casino Royale isn't really appropriate as that was showing him achieving his 00 status. With Kleinman, I'm definitely hoping he'll incorporate the naked girls.

 

[AnneFan]

I'm glad Kleinman is coming back. He does a good job with the titles, especially with GE and CR. And yes to naked ladies.