The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Jamie Foxx IS Electro - Part 2

[Nathan]

Well, didn't Sony already lend Kingpin once to Fox? I don't think the legal mumbo jumbo would be any bigger with Spider-Man.

 

[The Infernal]

Though I doubt it will likely happen in this incarnation of either franchise, I think the possibility is an intriguing idea. I'd love to see the character interactions between Spider-man and characters like Captain America, Bruce Banner/Hulk and Tony Stark (especially RDJ's Tony Stark).

 

[Nathan]

It definitely wouldn't be impossible. If they can give Kingpin away, I think they could give everyone away. They could give the rights to Marvel for 1 Movie and give them guidelines, like what they are allowed and not allowed to do with the character.

 

[The Infernal]

I don't think it's impossible either, but they'd have to go a long way to convince me it would actually happen.

 

[Jick]

What's funny is that the only way Rhino is ever defeated is by Spider-man leaping out of the way of Rhino's charge so that the big guy runs into something and is electrocuted.

The Spectacular Spider-Man did it in a more creative way. I don't doubt that we'll see Rhino charging at something and hurting himself, but I'm hoping for a more creative defeat, too.

Well, if they truly try to map out a giant Spider-Man universe, it would be foolish to kill off their enemies quickly. I really hope that they'll create the Vault, to house all the super criminals and we'll eventually get the Sinister Six.

Maybe SHIELD takes Electro and Rhino in the end, Spidey asks "where are you taking them?" and no answer is given. Then Fury appears after the credits and mentions the Vault.

 

[Shikamaru]

Spider-Man appearing in Avengers is not as unlikely as some of you might think. Sony and Marvel/Disney originally arranged for the Oscorp tower to appear in NYC's skyline in The Avengers next to the Stark Tower but the design wasn't done by the time The Avengers finished filming, making the timing the only thing that stopped it.

On top of that, Sony and Disney have already worked together. Marvel owns the merchandising rights to Spider-Man and have done all the advertisement for the first movie. There was even a Target commercial with Iron Man and Spider-Man together (the movie versions, that is) that would not exist if Sony wasn't willing to let Spider-Man be used in it.

On top of all of that, Kevin Feige has already said that Marvel and Sony have a good relationship. So it a crossover between Spidey and the Avengers is very likely to happen down the road though that is not necessarily a good thing. It has potential to be done well but there are also many problems you will run into, problems such as Spider-Man not being much of a team player and working best solo, the Spider-Man movies being turned into Avengers promos like how all the Marvel solo films were other than IM1 and TIH thus hurting the quality of Spidey's films overall, and the potential burying of lesser known Avengers characters like Black Panther or Ant-Man or Vision due to Spidey stepping in their spotlight (maybe even take everyone's spotlight). So although there is a huge chance of Spidey being brought into the MCU, let's all remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for" because there are also chances he could be brought into the MCU and have both the Spider-Man movies and Marvel Studios movies be affected in a negative way. This could go either way.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Spider-Man appearing in Avengers is not as unlikely as some of you might think. Sony and Marvel/Disney originally arranged for the Oscorp tower to appear in NYC's skyline in The Avengers next to the Stark Tower but the design wasn't done by the time The Avengers finished filming, making the timing the only thing that stopped it.

On top of that, Sony and Disney have already worked together. Marvel owns the merchandising rights to Spider-Man and have done all the advertisement for the first movie. There was even a Target commercial with Iron Man and Spider-Man together (the movie versions, that is) that would not exist if Sony wasn't willing to let Spider-Man be used in it.

On top of all of that, Kevin Feige has already said that Marvel and Sony have a good relationship. So it a crossover between Spidey and the Avengers is very likely to happen down the road though that is not necessarily a good thing. It has potential to be done well but there are also many problems you will run into, problems such as Spider-Man not being much of a team player and working best solo, the Spider-Man movies being turned into Avengers promos like how all the Marvel solo films were other than IM1 and TIH thus hurting the quality of Spidey's films overall, and the potential burying of lesser known Avengers characters like Black Panther or Ant-Man or Vision due to Spidey stepping in their spotlight (maybe even take everyone's spotlight). So although there is a huge chance of Spidey being brought into the MCU, let's all remember the saying "Be careful what you wish for" because there are also chances he could be brought into the MCU and have both the Spider-Man movies and Marvel Studios movies be affected in a negative way. This could go either way.

Personally, I'd prefer for the Spider-Man movies to stay completely separate from the Marvel Universe movies. But you're right, there are many negatives to consider that could lessen the quality of the films.

Other than all the fanboys wetting themselves by having all these characters appearing on screen at the same time, I can't see any reason for it to happen (well, other than $$$).

Avengers was fine, but there was precedent for that. Spider-Man being an Avenger is really only a recent thing anyway (like, within the last 6 years or so). It's fine in the comics every once in a while, but leave it out of the films please.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I don't think Spider-Man needs to be in an Avengers film to be a part of the MCU. Can't he be in a Daredevil film, or a possible Secret Wars movie?

Has anyone ever thought about a possibility of Spider-Man appearing in FOX Marvel movie? I could easily see Spider-Man being with the Fantastic Four. Plus, FOX has a contract with Marc Webb saying he would direct three films for them. Maybe part of the compensation was for Sony to let them use Spider-Man or work together?

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't think it's impossible either, but they'd have to go a long way to convince me it would actually happen.

The Avengers being one the highest grossing films of all time and effectively giving all characters associated with The Avengers a boost in their movie franchise is enough IMO.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't think Spider-Man needs to be in an Avengers film to be a part of the MCU. Can't he be in a Daredevil film, or a possible Secret Wars movie?

Has anyone ever thought about a possibility of Spider-Man appearing in FOX Marvel movie? I could easily see Spider-Man being with the Fantastic Four. Plus, FOX has a contract with Marc Webb saying he would direct three films for them. Maybe part of the compensation was for Sony to let them use Spider-Man or work together?

I HIGHLY doubt that.

Marvel, being the rights holder of the character (not movie but the general character rights) would have to approve, and they would never approve of that.

Fox is more stubborn to let go or share use of characters than Sony is.

 

[Spiderdevil]

I don't think Spider-Man needs to be in an Avengers film to be a part of the MCU. Can't he be in a Daredevil film, or a possible Secret Wars movie?

Has anyone ever thought about a possibility of Spider-Man appearing in FOX Marvel movie? I could easily see Spider-Man being with the Fantastic Four. Plus, FOX has a contract with Marc Webb saying he would direct three films for them. Maybe part of the compensation was for Sony to let them use Spider-Man or work together?

Highly unlikely
Dont see Spidey linking with F4 or X-men

 

[Mr. Dent]

I don't think Spider-Man needs to be in an Avengers film to be a part of the MCU. Can't he be in a Daredevil film, or a possible Secret Wars movie?

Has anyone ever thought about a possibility of Spider-Man appearing in FOX Marvel movie? I could easily see Spider-Man being with the Fantastic Four. Plus, FOX has a contract with Marc Webb saying he would direct three films for them. Maybe part of the compensation was for Sony to let them use Spider-Man or work together?

Yeah, Spidey wouldn't even fit in an Avengers film right now because of his age. If they just drop little hints and references to each other like they've been doing with The Avengers (maybe make them more blatant) then that would be fine. Would be cool to bring in TASM fully in the third film with a reveal that Peter's parents were SHIELD agents though.

Btw Shikamaru, I wouldn't worry about them shoving Avengers references in your face even if Spidey does become part of the MCU. For one thing, now that the team is assembled, it looks as if phase II Marvel films will be much more focused on the characters' stories themselves rather than "Iron Man and friends" or SHIELD shoehorning their way into the film as was the case with Thor.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I HIGHLY doubt that.

Marvel, being the rights holder of the character (not movie but the general character rights) would have to approve, and they would never approve of that.

Fox is more stubborn to let go or share use of characters than Sony is.

Its unfortunate that FOX has a hold of these characters. Man, I can't imagine what they would have done to Spider-Man if they had his film rights. It probably would have been like that Daredevil movie...

 

[Spiderdevil]

Webb is probably the only reason why this franchise has any hope. I think he did a fantastic job with the first movie, and will hopefully do well with the sequel. Just because Sony is after money, doesn't mean the movies will suck. I mean, isn't every Hollywood Studio film made for the same reasons? If they do try and make a sinister six film, that would be awesome (as long as it was done well).

You are giving way too much credit to Webb,I am pretty sure had they given the project to someone who was a little action oriented aswell he would have been way successful

The only reason the movie is good is because of the great cast,the script sucked and the direction wasnt too great either

The cast has got even better now and they are seeing the script is great so I have great expectations from the sequel

 

[Spiderdevil]

Wouldn't call it a blizzard of stolen cash....more like a small dust storm of stolen cash, lol.

And I'm really surprised we never saw a sex scene between Peter and MJ in Spider-Man 3 since they were an actual couple in that film.

Might sound a bit old fashinoned but I prefer they keep out the sex scenes in Comic Book movies

 

[Picard Sisko]

You are giving way too much credit to Webb,I am pretty sure had they given the project to someone who was a little action oriented aswell he would have been way successful.

I highly disagree. I think he deserves a lot of credit for the movie.

The only reason the movie is good is because of the great cast,the script sucked and the direction wasnt too great either

The script was flawed, but I wouldn't say that it outright sucked. I don't see what was wrong with the direction.

The cast has got even better now and they are seeing the script is great so I have great expectations from the sequel.

Keep those expectations low IMO. Less disappointment.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Might sound a bit old fashinoned but I prefer they keep out the sex scenes in Comic Book movies

Yes.

And as I mentioned a page or two back, I am not referring to the actual deed, but more like what we got with Bruce and Miranda in TDKR. With Peter and MJ having been a couple, it would be nice to see them being a 21st century couple.

1 film where the main villain and the 2 human right hand men live vs 3 films where 3 of the 4 main villains and 1 of the anti-heroes die? Yes.

Killing villians is mot franchise friendly and that's what Sony is after to keep Spider-Man as their cash cow in the comic movie genre.

Two human right hand men? Dr. Ratha and...who?

Plus, can we really count Dr. Ratha? He died in a deleted scene and his chances are up in the air of returning. That's not a pro or con if his death is never shown and he still never returns in the sequel.

So far we only have one alive villain. It's equaled Raimi's trilogy, congrats. Let's see what happens in the sequel before we say Webb is keeping his villains alive more than Raimi's.

Keep those expectations low IMO. Less disappointment.

That's not giving the sequel high praise now. That's shocking coming from you, lol.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Its just that after Spider-Man 3, its hard to keep my expectations so high. I mean, I'm very hyped for TASM2, and X-MenOFP, but I just keep my expectations low for each movie and that way, there is always less disappointment.

I had very low expectations for Amazing Spider-Man, and the movie really exceeded them.

 

[Majik1387]

Two human right hand men? Dr. Ratha and...who?

Whoever is in the cell with Dr. Connors at the end.

Plus, can we really count Dr. Ratha? He died in a deleted scene and his chances are up in the air of returning. That's not a pro or con if his death is never shown and he still never returns in the sequel.

If I can't count deleted scenes from other movies I like, can't count them here.

So far we only have one alive villain. It's equaled Raimi's trilogy, congrats. Let's see what happens in the sequel before we say Webb is keeping his villains alive more than Raimi's.

Not equal at all. Webb's is vastly superior.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Whoever is in the cell with Dr. Connors at the end.

Which could have been Norman Osborn.

If I can't count deleted scenes from other movies I like, can't count them here.

So you count someone that may not even appear again though? Not much of a threat to Spider-Man either, so how could he be considered a villain anyways?

Not equal at all. Webb's is vastly superior.

Again, no, no it's not. Webb still has one villain that has not died...the same as Raimi's record so far. Nothing is vastly superior in that department(and I won't get into the quality of the films ).

 

[JOE]

Jamie Foxx is Electro Unchained.

 

[Majik1387]

Which could have been Norman Osborn.

True, either way, it's someone Webb didn't kill.

So you count someone that may not even appear again though? Not much of a threat to Spider-Man either, so how could he be considered a villain anyways?

Not as big a threat as the supervillains no, but definitely can be a threat at Oscorp as shown with Dr Connors.

Again, no, no it's not. Webb still has one villain that has not died...the same as Raimi's record so far. Nothing is vastly superior in that department(and I won't get into the quality of the films ).

You seem to be giving Raimi a free pass for the 3 villains and 1 anti-hero he's killed, and it just doesn't work that way.
Raimi has killed one villain in every one of his movies. That puts his death count at 3; 4 including Harry.
Webb doesn't have a body count other than Uncle Ben.
That's what makes him superior, he didn't rely on cheap deaths.

 

[Shikamaru]

Webb doesn't have a body count other than Uncle Ben.

You missed Captain Stacy but I agree with everything else you said.

 

[Kreative T]

I want Kingpin in thiis movie, I want a traditional villian By what Jaime saide Electro is a sympathtic villian and by reading an articl Jamie foxx does in the movie it is going to be a full on Jamie Foxx movie.

No time for Rhino or Norman.

So I hope they Have Kingpin and Norman Bad ass traditional Boss villians with no backstory and Rhino a Superpowered thug to protect Norman Osborn form Kingpin and Electro. All hating spiderman, Electro and Rhino join forces to defeat spiderman. But Kingpin still hating Osborn tries to bring down his business, thus norman voeing he will never be bullied againg takes the goblin formula turning into GG at the end of the movie.

 

[Kreative T]

Filming starts monday, no casting news for JJJ,Norman, Kingpin. I'm getting nervous.

They are cutting it too close. If they are following the Ultimate books you can not have Electro without Kingpin.

Hopefully they are surprising us.No casting for Daily Bugle, Robboe Robertson?

I don't know guys.