I believe in the first trailer you could see a quick clip of an attack on Belle Reve.
So we could be seeing Joker's crew not only destroy Arkham, but Belle Reve as well in the same movie.
pardon my total stupidity, but which is which?
i assume, but might be wrongly in assuming so, that the Arkham part is where the joker baseball-bats somebody to a pulp in the background, and then comes out shirtless ready to fry harley quinn.
the same place where lots of shots are fired by masked goons with big eyeball, a goathead and more.
am i right to assume belle reve is the place looking more high-tech, the place where you see a batman-masked guy shoot his automatic gun, and you see joker walking accompanied by the same guy you see standing with the 2 evil pacman masked goons when he hits a guy in the face with a gun?
either way a lot doesnt fit right yet imho, or lets just say there are confusing things that we might connect to wrong places.
i am inclined to feel like the building the squad enters, all together, is the same high-tech facility where joker is accompanied to the guy he in the 2nd trailer smacks in the face. i assume it is some sorts of weapons manufactury? either way there must be something special there. also, common as tattoo man has been around there so.....
on the other side, when joker is wearing the black tux with the white flower/rose on it, laughing like a maniac, in the second trailer, he is clearly in a big helicopter. atleast one of those helicopters crashes onto the streets. but that seems to happen before they enter that same building, so, what the hell is happening?
man i'm getting restless i really want to see this movie!
and i must admit, the more i see leto's work, the more i see a real joker.
i have come to classify Ledger's joker performance as a oscar-worthy and insanely good even legendary performance as a ultimate thrilling, bond-like villain, who was themed as 'the joker'.
the more i see of SS, the more i see leto putting a real joker on the scene. absolutely maniacal, chaotic, insane freak.
ledger was crazy, but despite him stating otherwise, very much calculated. i don't think the joker ever was uncalculated, but ledger was more of a already-planned villain that was always atleast several steps ahead of his adversaries. the getting caught in the police station and everything around him blowing up and legendary getting on his feet in the chaos is a prime example of such.
leto's joker seems more like a on-the-spot-crazyness. let just look at it this way;
in the dark knight scene in the hospital with two-face, ledger grabs a gun, puts it to his head, gives it to two-face and lets him choose his fate through the coin. leto would simply have had a revolver in his hands and filled it up russian roulette and let two-face pull the trigger right there and see what happens.
i really like that this joker is going to beat up robin like in the comics, probably with a crowbar - atleast he does so in the background in a certain scene to a certain someone.
i was a bit dissapointed in the dark knight scene with the dogs on the higher floor that they twisted the crowbar-beating scene in having joker beat up batman with a crowbar instead of robin. as of that certain 'chapter' imho, the movie went sour. the capture of the joker was too definitive, too and too abrupt and empty. they should have had him taken away in custody and have the van crash and joker getting away.
or atleast have an arkham scene where he called or invited bats and show him he's planning something that will inevitably have repercussions for batman.
the whole dark knight ending was badly executed imho. the moment batman got up to run away atleast got back into the spirit of the movie and it bacame what it was again. but from the moment where joker got caught untill then imho was really bad. im still bummed over how they finished off and went with two-face in the end. there was so much potential there.
but i'm wandering off way to far.
i'm really hyped for this movie and this joker! i'm not entirely sold on it, but i'm starting to lose my initial discomfort and refusal of the grille and face and hand tats. i would still prefer it that joker was not somewhat styled like a white-wannabe-******-pimpdaddycool-ghetto-rap-posse badguy.
i love the whitewash, the supergreen hair, i absolutely love the clothing.
i just dont really dig the gold chains, the flashy car, etcetera. but, i'm interested on how the story is going to delve into that stuff.