Jared Leto IS The Joker - - - - - Part 14

[DeadStroke]

Who cares. So what if he isn't as good as Ledger. All that matters is if he's a good Joker.

I don't go into every Oscar bait movie saying "Will this guy be better than Daniel Day Lewis?"

Its Suicide Squad and he's a side character. If he gets to be in Affleck's Batman movie then I might be a little harsher or expect "greatness"

 

[The Joker]

How big a role exactly is he supposed to have in this? I heard some tweets from people who saw it say he's a side story.

 

[tanita_mors]

reports say about 30 minutes of screen time. harley flashbacks and a side story that clashes with the squad i think.

 

[Crystalice1]

Idk whether Leto will be better or not, I just want to see something different for better or worse. I also don't buy that Ledger will continue to be the definitive live action joker until infinity 1000x. He's great but he'll eventually be dethroned by someone whether people like it or not. He's only top dog until he's not.

 

[OutOfBoose]

reports say about 30 minutes of screen time. harley flashbacks and a side story that clashes with the squad i think.

30 minutes? I heard much less. 15-20 minutes or so. Because when a character has 30 minutes of screen time, I don't see any reason to complain there is not enough Joker.

 

[tanita_mors]

well it's a rough estimate - 20 feels like 30 to some people. i don't really know. we will find out soon enough.

 

[FunkMiller]

30 minutes is way too much. I want him like the shark in Jaws.

 

[tanita_mors]

i don't know what to tell you. he has a number of scenes, but i don't know the length of them. the scenes we know of from spoilers and trailers :

Spoiler

therapy session, attack on the asylum and electroshock, her intercepting him in his car, the chemical wedding, club deal, chase with batman, finding the bombs in that factory, threatening ike's character, laughing in that weapons circle, helicopter with harley and that buy,buy scene with the bomb and the rumored ending when he rescues her.

it depends how it's all edited and the lengths of those scenes. and if all of them made it in at all.

 

[DeadStroke]

30 minutes? I heard much less. 15-20 minutes or so. Because when a character has 30 minutes of screen time, I don't see any reason to complain there is not enough Joker.

Expect possibly as less as 10 mins.

One guy who saw the movie compared his screen time to Black Panther.

 

[tanita_mors]

doesn't matter really. if he is utilized well and delivers a good performance, i'm happy.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Expect possibly as less as 10 mins.

One guy who saw the movie compared his screen time to Black Panther.

Ouch. So much for my most anticipated thing about the movie. It's probably on fast forward Captain America style in AA.

 

[Plaidchuck]

Will be refreshing if Joker's not in it that much. Bout time DC/WB stopped relying solely on Batman properties 24/7.

 

[tanita_mors]

i disagree. this is a movie full of unknowns for the GA. they need a character name to somewhat carry it until they prove themselves. especially as so much of the weight of the DCEU has transferred to SS. it doesn't really have a luxury to fail like GotG could have had it not worked.

 

[DeadStroke]

Ouch. So much for my most anticipated thing about the movie. It's probably on fast forward Captain America style in AA.

The Joker in Under the Red Hood only had about 6 mins of screen time. He was still pretty good and crucial to the story. Don't give up hope. t:

 

[The Joker]

Quality over quantity.

 

[Penguin]

Quality over quantity.

I agree, but some may say that quantity has a quality all its own.

 

[OutOfBoose]

The Joker in Under the Red Hood only had about 6 mins of screen time. He was still pretty good and crucial to the story. Don't give up hope. t:

I'm just screwing around. We know why he is in the movie, at least the setup, it really explain why his role is limited.

 

[DeadStroke]

What I feared about Leto's Joker in this movie.
From Reddit

He was good. Nothing much more than you see in the trailers - he was given very little screen time. It felt a bit cramped. All of his scenes were so intense and short that there wasn't a lot to take in, if you know what I mean. He wasn't given enough "room" to experiment with range. Visually he was fantastic. I've never been a fan of the tattoos, but I admit they worked. His laugh was amazing. The scene you saw in the trailers where he's laughing and firing a gold-plated AK-47 was my personal favorite.

 

[Plaidchuck]

Not surprising. We've known for a while he was going to be a peripheral character in regards to the actual plot.

Don't worry, we'll see more than enough of him in the Batman solo movie.

 

[Nerwen Aldarion]

This is a taste of what is to come, leaving the audience wanting more. Leto already said he did not feel like he was done with the character which is a very obvious Hint that we haven't seen the last of Letos Joker

 

[Jekecy]

http://www.torontosun.com/2016/07/3...ts-joker-to-go-up-against-ben-afflecks-batman

“I hope it’s an introduction (of the Joker) … and not the end! Because I could easily just play the Joker a couple more times and then retire. Because it’s so fulfilling and so creative and it’s so imaginative. It’s really difficult to think about doing anything else!”

“I think it would be incredible to see Batman and the Joker go head-to-head! This Batman and this Joker. I mean, I don’t know, that might be too much! But that would be fun.”

“The good thing about there having been such strong, beautiful interpretations of the character before — by actors, artists and writers — is that you knew what direction not to head in. That’s already been covered! You know, Heath gave a perfect performance. Not only one of the best villains ever on screen, but I believe one of the best performances ever! It’s perfect. It’s just perfect. There’s not a flaw. There’s not a missed note. There’s not a moment when you’re not with him and the character. For me, it was so untouchable that, at a certain point, I was almost at ease because I knew there was nothing I could do to go near that! And then you’ve got Jack Nicholson and then you’ve got this beautiful voice acting from Mark Hamill (for the animated versions). But they’re all so different. They’re all their own thing. So I still felt the pressure to deliver but I also felt that there was such a map of where we shouldn’t be going.”

More at the link above. Nice to know Leto is completely down for this role in the long-run. With or without contract. And I believe for the first time ever, someone directly from production acknowledges Hamill. Great that he knows all the big shoes he has to follow.

 

[brandeezy89]

It's not the Joker movie, it's the Squad's so it's expected that his role is limited

 

[Brother Jack]

I'm glad he has diminished screentime. The Joker often has an overexposure problem. It's usually better to limit his usage. To make his appearances have more impact.

 

[MasterChief2829]

i don't know what to tell you. he has a number of scenes, but i don't know the length of them. the scenes we know of from spoilers and trailers :

Spoiler

therapy session, attack on the asylum and electroshock, her intercepting him in his car, the chemical wedding, club deal, chase with batman, finding the bombs in that factory, threatening ike's character, laughing in that weapons circle, helicopter with harley and that buy,buy scene with the bomb and the rumored ending when he rescues her.

it depends how it's all edited and the lengths of those scenes. and if all of them made it in at all.

In the other thread they saying the buh bye scene isn't in it at all.

 

[Hammer!]

Haven't been looking forward to this movie at all so haven't really seen anything since yesterday when I gobbled up all the trailers and tv spots, but Joker looks ridiculous. I hope I love him because I've been trying to find a way to get interested in DC movies again. Can't believe how fans aren't as skeptical of this as I am, particularly after how Luthor was handled.

Joker with a specific tat or two is potentially interesting. But all over the place like a pro tat artist? Including the face and a distracting script text on his forehead? The grills and pimp extensions? Joker has always been loud but not nearly this deafening. This whole character direction just seems obnoxious. What is happening!?