Jared Leto IS The Joker - - - - - - Part 15

[The Shape]

It isn't. Its the issue that that line and others he said were flat out cringeworthy.

Almost like a bad joke...

 

[The Joker]

your avatar is wonderful.

10 out of 10 would damage again

I agree. A lot of his performance was like a bad Mask imitation lol.

Almost like a bad joke...

Not almost. They were bad.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

your avatar is wonderful.

10 out of 10 would damage again

Thank you very much. I made it at work this morning

 

[The Shape]

Not almost. They were bad.

A Joker who is weird and over-the-top and tells bad jokes.

Whaddya know.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

jared leto reminded me to watch the mask for the first time in forever, so thanks Jared Leto.

But in doing so, he also reminded me of that abomination of a sequel with Jamie Kennedy. Damn you, Jared Leto.

 

[The Joker]

I'm well aware that you're of the opinion that these scrapped Joker scenes you've never seen and know very little about will somehow depart from the rest of Ayer's script and offer rich character development. But when you pare down your long-winded explanations, all you are left with is speculation. Pure speculation. The kind of speculation that has become a phenomenon among rabid fanboys. The kind of speculation that sounds a lot like denial.

I am not being gullible or making assumptions when I say that the scenes left out likely earned their way out. There is a word for how I have arrived at my current stance on the matter: deduction.

Sure there were reshoots. Sure the studio had something to say about the workprint. That's par for the course with a $175 million movie. But artists and businessmen don't always butt heads when exchanging notes. Do you think WB told Ayer, "Less Joker, please"? Probably not. They remember 1989 and 2008, and they especially remember how much money they made. They let Heath Ledger be a veritable terrorist the last time out; this time, I find it a bit difficult to believe that they simply strong-armed the director whose script they approved--and over a *****-slap.

You've culled your opinion on the cuts based on speculation. Based on the misplaced disappointment of likeminded fans. Based on things you've heard on the Internet and not on anything you've seen or otherwise experienced yourself. On a conspiracy theory, really. I, on the other hand, have culled my opinion on the published word of the man who wrote and directed the damn thing.

Luckily for us, a Blu-ray should be out by Christmas, and that will end the debate for everybody.

Well said.

I just didn't like his take of the character. The writing was a completely different issue as well.

I agree. It was a combo of weak performance and writing.

A Joker who is weird and over-the-top and tells bad jokes.

Whaddya know.

May there never be such a version again.

 

[Wildcard]

Jack Nicholson could have just as easily said that line and gotten a pass. I loved his quips. He just needs work on it more, he needs new direction and a tweak to his look

Also, ditch the grills and he actually would sound better instantly. He did the voice for just a sec on (Fallon I think?) and he sounded much more audible and crisp. Those grills were holding him back

Maybe not so much the grillz themselves as much as it was having the proper time to acclimate to wearing them & using that particular voice.

 

[The Shape]

Man, this thread needs an enema!

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Man, this thread needs an enema!

nah, it just needs another acid bath

like jared leto's joker!

 

[The Shape]

"I can tell you meant that!"

 

[Wildcard]

Man, this thread needs an enema!

This thread deserves a better class of posters.

 

[DeadStroke]

Blah blah blah blah

 

[Timebomb]

jared leto reminded me to watch the mask for the first time in forever, so thanks Jared Leto.

But in doing so, he also reminded me of that abomination of a sequel with Jamie Kennedy. Damn you, Jared Leto.

Lol

 

[DeadStroke]

All this good depth to Joker's character we missed out on..

edit: Possible trolling going on. Saw it on reddit. Maybe need the poster who was at this screening to verify?

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

All this good depth to Joker's character we missed out on..

Wow. That actually sounds great. Just the part where he talks about batman makes it 10x better

 

[DeadStroke]

Wow. That actually sounds great. Just the part where he talks about batman makes it 10x better

He could be trolling. Just warning you.

 

[NotSoLongAgo]

He could be trolling. Just warning you.

I wouldnt doubt it

 

[harlequinade]

That sounds really fake to me

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I think he's full of fudge.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Sounds fake and fan fictiony.

 

[Knightfall]

Spoiler

Where the hell is that from?

 

[Crashorama]

I think it's funny that people are now using the Hannibal Lecter comparisons to put down Leto's Joker, suggesting that a limited amount of screen time shouldn't affect an actor's performance or that any quality character should be able to make an amazing impression in 10 minutes time.

I would often cite Lecter as an example of how a character can be memorable and effective despite having a small amount of screen time, but this is not that. What we saw of Lecter in SOTL was nearly exactly what we were intended to see all along. His role in the story wasn't reduced or lessened or toned down. Bits of his scenes weren't trimmed down to the bare minimum time needed say or do something before moving on to the next scene. His scenes weren't sloppily edited and appearing at random within the film. Beyond that, even with his short amount of screen time, Lecter was hugely integrel to the main plot in the film and he therefore had a huge impact on the entire film.

I can't imagine something like even 6 minutes of screen time getting shaved off of Lecter's scenes in SOTL. That would be like half of his conversations with Clarice and who knows what else. I don't know how Lecter could have had the same presence over the plot or come off as memorable and frightening without seeing him exactly as we did in SOTL.

This......totally this. Screen time is irrelevant. It's about the original performance being mutated and chopped up. We didn't get to see what Leto intended us to see.

 

[TheVileOne]

Some of that description made no sense. Actually, a lot of it didn't.

There's literally no comparison to this Joker and Hannibal Lecter and Silence of the Lambs. Literally none. Factually none.

 

[tanita_mors]

Where the hell is that from?

it's from the movie. when harley get electrshocked, there is a super cut of various scenes including a few frames from that whole cut scene where she is chasing joker on her bike. you can see her pulling out his gun, shooting someone and holding it to his head like in that screenshot. it goes bye very fast, you have to freeze frames on yt to see it.

 

[Knightfall]

it's from the movie. when harley get electrshocked, there is a super cut of various scenes including a few frames from that whole cut scene where she is chasing joker on her bike. you can see her pulling out his gun, shooting someone and holding it to his head like in that screenshot. it goes bye very fast, you have to freeze frames on yt to see it.

I definitely missed that, looks like it's from the cut scene where

Spoiler

Harley shoots the trucker and confronts The Joker