Jared Leto IS The Joker - Part 7

[Tacit Ronin]

Mah thoughts on Jared's Joker from another thread:

Jared has nailed one aspect of the Joker that was missing in Heath's joker altogether: his vanity. Heath's Joker looked like he adorned the Joker suit, did the Joker make-up and hair a long time ago and did not shower or take it off since. The presentation of his appearance seemed not a factor to him, hence why he looked so decayed.

Jack's Joker was consumed by his vanity and so seems Jared. Everything from his lips stick, hair, tattoos, and clothes is a tribute to the beauty of himself. Which makes the forehead 'damaged' tattoo all the more puzzling. It disrupts the twisted harmony of the rest of his look. It's the lone flaw in his design.

 

[regwec]

Edit: Everyone should take note of Tacit's excellent post, above.

He comes across as a goth/hipster *****e club boy

I really don't a accept this line of attack. Perhaps I am behind the times, but do Goths nowadays tend to have bright green hair and metallic silver jackets? Or do hipsters have steel-capped teeth and prison tattoos?

What we seem to have is an amalgam of contemporary sub cultural effects, chosen to build a modernised interpretation of The Joker's traditionally flamboyant, garish garb. It may not please everyone, and it inevitably carries some shock of the new, but it is a perfectly valid approach, and one that has the character itself as the starting point.

Thematically, it is certainly less of a departure that the substitution of bleached skin with facepaint.

 

[Naked Shia]

This joker is a product of his time. which makes sense, especially when you think of Grant Morrison's super personality stuff about the joker.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

I have an idea I know everyone is going to hate, and if anyone can remember anything that was rumored or even confirmed that runs counter to this idea please let me know.


Okay, we seem to be assuming a lot right now about this version of the Joker and his relationship with Batman. Some of us suspect the teeth are because Batman beat him half to death. The idea that Joker is in prison or will be a Hanibal Lector type character in the film has been floated, as well that he may sprung by Harley at some point, many theories. Many assume Batman put him away and that he more or less will mirror TDKReturns Joker in that without Batman to play with (assuming a less active Batman) that he just settles into a life of incarceration and is a bit blank until Batman's big public battle with Superman, which jump starts Joker again. What if a lot of that is wrong?

What if this Joker was never put away and has managed to stay out of Gotham and out of sight of the Dark Knight? What if he's just been living the high life, spending a fortune he's amassed? Fast cars, flashy clothes, partying in far flung places, coming back to the States occasionally to see if Batman is stil around, and finding no trace of the Caped Crusader he just carries on. A Joker, in a sense if you will, that has lost his way. He's kinda turned into the common *****e criminal that Ledger's Joker so disdained, and his arc in the film is that something plot specific that involves the Squad and Harley lights the fire in his belly to once again become the anarchic, nihilistic Clown Prince Of Crime.


Yeah, I can already hear the chorus of, "That could never happen, he's obsessed with Batman, and Batman would never allow that, he'd find him..." Which are all good points and sure, keeping with the character. But we don't have all the info, and I think some of what I am thinking could explain a lot, including the tattoos, the expensive car, the club ready clothes and on and on. Sort of a Joker that's let himself succumb to common everyday decadence, that before he would have disdained, and which he has to escape. It could be that what ever the Squad is involved in piques his interest and sets him back on the road to "greatness" or it could be that the Squad gets Batman's attention and that snaps him back to his old self. I don't know, but in a film based around villains, featuring one of the greatest villains, I think it makes sense for them to have their own journeys and arcs where there is change from the start of the story to the finish for the characters and what better story for the biggest villain in the film than a "comeback"?

Since we'll no where near stopping the debate over his look I just want to throw this out there again.

I think that since this is a villain film that having an arc for Joker makes sense.

 

[Boy Scout]

Since we'll no where near stopping the debate over his look I just want to throw this out there again.

I think that since this is a villain film that having an arc for Joker makes sense.

I think that's s very interesting idea. I'm not sure if I buy that Batman wouldn't have been able to track him down - especially The Joker was able to amass a fortune in his absence - but that could probably be easily explained.

 

[titansupes]

Mah thoughts on Jared's Joker from another thread:

Jared has nailed one aspect of the Joker that was missing in Heath's joker altogether: his vanity. Heath's Joker looked like he adorned the Joker suit, did the Joker make-up and hair a long time ago and did not shower or take it off since. The presentation of his appearance seemed not a factor to him, hence why he looked so decayed.

Jack's Joker was consumed by his vanity and so seems Jared. Everything from his lips stick, hair, tattoos, and clothes is a tribute to the beauty of himself. Which makes the forehead 'damaged' tattoo all the more puzzling. It disrupts the twisted harmony of the rest of his look. It's the lone flaw in his design.

I know what you mean, but I think Heath's Joker had a sense of vanity. He liked his hair, his suit "wasn't cheap", he reapplied his make-up etc. I think in his mind, in some way, he was proud of it all. He was a twisted mofo.

 

[horrorwriter]

His lips are actually one of the few things I think they did well lol.



Absolutely. For many people a bad character design can bring down a performance, just like a great character design doesn't save a bad or weak performance.

So did Nolan's horrible Batman suits in DKR and TDK bring those performances down? I call ********. A modern take on Joker is here to stay. The tattoos are amazing and welcoming addition to the character. Very awesome. He looks sinister, flamboyant, and absolutley diabolical. Punk rock based crazy killer. He is the joker. You honestly expect a new rendition to just be a guy with white skin, green hair, red lips? There should not be a new take on this character? c'mon man.

 

[horrorwriter]

This joker is a product of his time. which makes sense, especially when you think of Grant Morrison's super personality stuff about the joker.

Exactly

 

[Jumpin' Jack]

I quite like the look, now I'm excited to hear the voice

 

[Guts]

Leto do what Leto want.

Got to be a joker he just do what he please!

 

[Manofplastic]

I quite like the look, now I'm excited to hear the voice

here you go

https://vine.co/v/O9UYFIQ0nYt

 

[Roderick]

Mah thoughts on Jared's Joker from another thread:

Jared has nailed one aspect of the Joker that was missing in Heath's joker altogether: his vanity. Heath's Joker looked like he adorned the Joker suit, did the Joker make-up and hair a long time ago and did not shower or take it off since. The presentation of his appearance seemed not a factor to him, hence why he looked so decayed.

Jack's Joker was consumed by his vanity and so seems Jared. Everything from his lips stick, hair, tattoos, and clothes is a tribute to the beauty of himself. Which makes the forehead 'damaged' tattoo all the more puzzling. It disrupts the twisted harmony of the rest of his look. It's the lone flaw in his design.

Agreed all the way.

 

[StarLord]

here you go

https://vine.co/v/O9UYFIQ0nYt

Stop posting this like it's some sort of confirmation. It means absolutely nothing.

 

[The Endless]

I'm pretty confident his voice will be like that when he gets particularly aggressive or excited.

 

[The Endless]

Well around the time he was filming for The Dark Knight is when he started having sleeping problems and is when he started taking pills for it which is what led to his eventual overdose. While not directly connected to his performance in The Dark Knight it isn't a crazy assumption that taking on a role like The Joker could have been a heavy contributing factor to his sleeping issues. He was a method actor and it was more than likely a huge pressure on him psychologically to get it right.

He had sleeping problems because he was a coke head. He was mixing all kinds of crap in his body.

 

[craigaat]

design wise it's the weakest joker yet and that included the animated bombs as well

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I definitely prefer Leto Joker over this:

Spoiler

I'd take the tattoos every time over that.

 

[Travesty]

I'd take that over Leto's, and I'm not a fan of Leather Face Joker, at all.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I definitely prefer Leto Joker over this:

I'd take the tattoos every time over that.

We've had a Joker with dreadlocks and bare feet and that among a few others. Leto's Joker is far from the most extreme interpretation visually.

 

[Guts]

We even have a Joker with no eyelids.

 

[The Endless]

Leto Joker is the 2010s worst nightmare personified. It's perfectly fitting for the Joker and is totally in line with how the other movie versions have been portrayed.

 

[John-An]

https://instagram.com/p/26ldhYzBZf/

Ouch... Is he training martial arts?

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

We've had a Joker with dreadlocks and bare feet and that among a few others. Leto's Joker is far from the most extreme interpretation visually.

I think people really need a crash course into what we might have got had Ayer drawn from some other sources. cough cough The Batman cough cough

 

[Slade W]

Obviously everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I definitely prefer Leto Joker over this:

Spoiler

I'd take the tattoos every time over that.

I think that looks awesome. Snyder's Joker (Endgame and Death Of The Family) is the only Joker that I have ever found scary. Snyder writes him and Capullo draws him creepy as hell.

 

[Boom]

I think that looks awesome. Snyder's Joker (Endgame and Death Of The Family) is the only Joker that I have ever found scary. Snyder writes him and Capullo draws him creepy as hell.

You didn't find him scary in The Killing Joke or A Serious House on Serious Earth? The latter one especially is pure nightmare fuel.

 

[Mr. Blue Sky]

You didn't find him scary in The Killing Joke or A Serious House on Serious Earth? The latter one especially is pure nightmare fuel.

Oh hell ya. I want that movie. A horror story in Arkham, a deep dive into psychopathy, burden and duty.

I have to read it again...