The Rise of Skywalker JJ Abrams is Writing and Directing Episode IX

[DarthSkywalker]

JJ Abrams didn't write Lost for the longest time. It wasn't his thing after the pilot.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

The show's writers denied it because the characters werent dead the whole time. I dont understand why people seem so damn incapable of grasping what Christian told Jack in the series finale. The characters were alive on the island. Everything that happened on the island actually happened. Some of them died on the island. Sawyer and Kate left the island in the series finale and died sometime later. The flash sideways scenes are the only stuff in the show that took place in "purgatory".

So, no, the viewers that think they were dead the while time werent exactly right. In fact they were entirely wrong and still are.

As one who stopped after the third season, this sounds a lot more satisfactory then I have been led to believe.

 

[Marvolo]

As one who stopped after the third season, this sounds a lot more satisfactory then I have been led to believe.

Season 4 and 5 were great television. Once the showrunners decided on the specific number of episodes theyd need to finish the show they focused more in seasons 4 and 5 and didnt meander quite like they did in seasons 2 and 3. Season 6 is good, but the flash sideways stuff can get a bit tedious and some characters act very strangely in season 6. Sayid's character was damn near ruined. His chatacter changes had a logic that was in line with the "rules" established in the show, but as a Sayid fan it was upsetting.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Season 4 and 5 were great television. Once the showrunners decided on the specific number of episodes theyd need to finish the show they focused more in seasons 4 and 5 and didnt meander quite like they did in seasons 2 and 3. Season 6 is good, but the flash sideways stuff can get a bit tedious and some characters act very strangely in season 6. Sayid's character was damn near ruined. It made sense and had a logic to it that was in line with the rules established in the show, but as a Sayid fan it was upsetting.

Of course it got better. That sounds like my luck.

I am curious about what happened to Sayid. Could you PM Marv, as to not side track this too much?

 

[Man in the Suit]

Seasons 4 and 5 were my favorite seasons. The Constant

 

[NealKenneth]

NealKenneth definitely lied about Rebels.

I said Rebels is not nearly as good as Clone Wars and when you contested that I showed you that viewership of Rebels is only a fifth of what it was for Clone Wars (and falling!)

What is your response to that?

this isn't a fanclub for people who want to constantly heap praise on this stuff, if you're entitled to think Abrams is good for the brand, then I'm entitled to think he's bad.

Exactly.

Everyone here complains about Star Wars in one shape or form. Plenty of posters I really like aren't hot on JJ or TFA. That's cool. You just come here to troll and talk about the death of Star Wars.

I would gladly discuss the death of Star Wars in seperate threads from the fanboy jerking but those threads get locked. Talking negatively about the direction of Kennedy SW is not welcome around here for some reason.

Like Grooster once explained in a different thread, my feelings are more complex then simply disliking the new films. I actually was a strong defender of TFA until Rogue One and details about The Last Jedi started rolling out. That's when I rewatched TFA for the first time since theaters and saw it for what it really was. I understand that it makes it easier to dismiss what I say to pretend I am just a troll but the truth is more complex than that.

That being said, I am happy to agree to disagree and just wish the bullying would stop, particularly against Grooster.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

By the way, if we are going to blame JJ for what Lost became, and I don't know, I didn't finish. But if we are going to do that, does that mean JJ gets credit for Person of Interest being arguably the greatest network show of all time, and in general just a fantastic show?

 

[Man in the Suit]

Person of Interest being arguably the greatest show of all time

Fixed that for you

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I said Rebels is not nearly as good as Clone Wars and when you contested that I showed you that viewership of Rebels is only a fifth of what it was for Clone Wars (and falling!)

What is your response to that?Exactly.I would gladly discuss the death of Star Wars in seperate threads from the fanboy jerking but those threads get locked. Talking negatively about the direction of Kennedy SW is not welcome around here for some reason.

Like Grooster once explained in a different thread, my feelings are more complex then simply disliking the new films. I actually was a strong defender of TFA until Rogue One and details about The Last Jedi started rolling out. That's when I rewatched TFA for the first time since theaters and saw it for what it really was. I understand that it makes it easier to dismiss what I say to pretend I am just a troll but the truth is more complex than that.

That being said, I am happy to agree to disagree and just wish the bullying would stop, particularly against Grooster.

That is textbook trolling. The woe is me stuff based in lies (what threads got locked and people complain about Kennedy all the time recently), while insulting other posters for daring to enjoy something can be nothing else.

No one bullies Grootster. He comes in, makes stuff up (just like you) and likes to run his narrative. He doesn't simply state his opinion on the quality of the films or such, he is here to state the end of Star Wars as a series and here is the made up proof he has. That others point this out isn't bullying. It is calling out BS as BS. Especially as he does it while claiming it means the TLJ is going to be awful.

Who comes into a thread and says I know something sucks that they never even read or watched? Who?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Fixed that for you

Well I was going to say that, but then I feel like FC85 might show up when she felt a disturbance in the Force. But you won't find me disagreeing with your correction. Will always thank Snow Queen for getting me into it. Best recommendation ever. t:

 

[NealKenneth]

JJ Abrams didn't write Lost for the longest time. It wasn't his thing after the pilot.

Abrams was the executive producer for the entire series and wrote the "series bible" outlining the entire four to five season plot. It ended up being six seasons but there is no doubt he was a very strong influence creatively for every single episode.

As someone who watched the series as it came out, I feel the outrage reported by the media is overblown. It was more of a mild disappointment with some great moments and episodes all the way to the very end. It would have been way better to have quite a few more plotlines resolved, sure, but it's not like the show ever started to suck. It was more like a fall from A+ to B-

 

[Man in the Suit]

Abrams basically shot the pilot and moved on to MI3. Just like he never finished Alias and Fringe.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Abrams basically shot the pilot and moved on to MI3. Just like he never finished Alias and Fringe.

Yep, for better worse, all the shows belong to the showrunners.

 

[flickchick85]

Well I was going to say that, but then I feel like FC85 might show up when she felt a disturbance in the Force.

Pretty much.

Also, the ending and/or later seasons of Lost have absolutely nothing to do with this thread or board, since J.J. Abrams had absolutely nothing to do with those things. Let's get back to topic, people.

Grootster and NealKenneth, you've made your feelings on the matter perfectly clear, REPEATEDLY. You're not being bullied, you're being called out for the repetitive nature of your posts that haven't contributed anything new to the discussion in a while. The reason some people see that as trolling is because after a while, the posts seem to only exist to rile people up, since they don't do anything else. That's why C.Lee deleted a boatload of posts yesterday, because they took the discussion nowhere. I don't believe you're meaning to troll, so please find a new tune or move on.

 

[Broseph44]

Pretty much.

Also, the ending and/or later seasons of Lost have absolutely nothing to do with this thread or board, since J.J. Abrams had absolutely nothing to do with those things. Let's get back to topic, people.

Grootster and NealKenneth, you've made your feelings on the matter perfectly clear, REPEATEDLY. You're not being bullied, you're being called out for the repetitive nature of your posts that haven't contributed anything new to the discussion in a while. The reason some people see that as trolling is because after a while, the posts seem to only exist to rile people up, since they don't do anything else. That's why C.Lee deleted a boatload of posts yesterday, because they took the discussion nowhere. I don't believe you're meaning to troll, so please find a new tune or move on.

Thanks for looking out Flickchick

 

[DarthSkywalker]

One rather interesting fact about this whole situation with JJ getting the job including writing the script with Terrio, it kind of feels like they had no intention of having Jack Thorne write IX. It is almost like he was brought in to push Trevorrow off. Rian was their first choice and there is no way he wouldn't have written the script either.

 

[Broseph44]

One rather interesting fact about this whole situation with JJ getting the job including writing the script with Terrio, it kind of feels like they had no intention of having Jack Thorne write IX. It is almost like he was brought in to push Trevorrow off. Rian was their first choice and there is no way he wouldn't have written the script either.

I wonder when we are going to hear more about the decision to hire JJ back and Terrio etc. I'm really curious to hear JJ's thoughts and what he has to say about his return and decision to do so.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm a little nervous about Terrio, but I think he's generally a pretty good writer who just wasn't suited to superheroes, so hopefully he can handle this universe a little better.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I wonder when we are going to hear more about the decision to hire JJ back and Terrio etc. I'm really curious to hear JJ's thoughts and what he has to say about his return and decision to do so.

JJ is good a corporate speak. I doubt we get anything outside of just being really happy and honored to be back. But yeah, it would be interesting. Especially as his wife was big on him doing something original after TFA. I think it was their 60 Minutes interview where she really emphasized this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm a little nervous about Terrio, but I think he's generally a pretty good writer who just wasn't suited to superheroes, so hopefully he can handle this universe a little better.

He has written two things I have seen. One I really liked, the other I didn't. I wonder if JJ is doing this after the TFA is to ANH situation. Writing with Terrio instead of someone like Kasadan.

If I had my way, it would be Rian writing the script whether he was directing or not. That is what they originally announced way back when now. Or was it that he would write the story?

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, I would love to find out Rian's getting a story credit or something to suggest he at least partially contributed to this, lol. I think the original announcement was that he was writing/directing VIII and doing the story for IX.

 

[Man in the Suit]

It was first reported that Rian was doing the treatment for IX when he first signed on, but I believe he recently said that he wasn't.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I remember when I was being whiny about Rian. But since the moment I heard him talk about TLJ, I have been pumped. Its too bad he isn't coming back in someway, shape or form, but maybe this situation means JJ might at least give him a call.

 

[Marvolo]

One rather interesting fact about this whole situation with JJ getting the job including writing the script with Terrio, it kind of feels like they had no intention of having Jack Thorne write IX. It is almost like he was brought in to push Trevorrow off. Rian was their first choice and there is no way he wouldn't have written the script either.

Jack Thorne may have been Trevorrow's suggestion or request. Sort of a last request type thing when he had one more chance to please Kennedy and keep his job. When Trevorrow got the boot Thorne probably got the boot with him. Either because Kathy lumped them together or because Abrams didnt want anything that Colin had done so the writers had to go when Colin went.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I'm a little nervous about Terrio, but I think he's generally a pretty good writer who just wasn't suited to superheroes, so hopefully he can handle this universe a little better.

I think Terrio gets unfairly blamed for Batman V. Superman. Zack Snyder was not only the director of that movie but also a producer and had a ton of power. He's the one who clearly guided that ship.

I think as a whole Abrams and Kennedy are ultimately going to be guiding things regardless of who is writing the script.