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I think that's likely along the lines of what he means, although I do think TFA absolutely has a meta aspects to its story too, even if it maybe wasn't intended. TFA is what kind of started that whole trajectory, what with the main antagonist being a self-aware character who knows the history of the galaxy and struggles with being in the shadow of Darth Vader, and a main hero who is essentially a Star Wars 'fan' who 'collects' old Star Wars stuff.
I think that aspect of it just can't really be helped when you're having directors step in the shoes of this legacy so many years later. I think it inevitably starts becoming ABOUT Star Wars.
Like Terrio said in that Empire interview though, TLJ does the thing "that all great second acts do-- create the antithesis". I think that's really the pendulum swing that J.J. is referring to. It puts them in a position to then create the synthesis, for the trilogy and the saga as a whole. And going full circle to threads from the original film is basically trilogy 101 stuff.
I'd agree that both of the new films have been pretty meta . I'm skeptical though JJ really agree's with Terrio statement about the perfect antithesis in reference to how it applies to the execution of TLJ. However, I do think that Abrams is clearly trying create a synthesis between what Johnson did and the other films .
While I'm iffy about Palpatine returning , it does make sense if TROS is truly meant to end the "Skywalker " saga.
Then again, the question becomes whether Episode 9 needed to tie all 9 films to begin with, or whether it needed to just be an end of the storylines of the ST . I guess that's something that will be debated for years to come.