Justice League Status Updates Thread - Part 1

[BlueLightning]

I'm not sure if I like these news or not. I'm glad they seem to be moving forward Wonder Woman and Flash, but a Justice League film? I just don't know.

I'm more inclined to have separate films to establish the characters. If the Justice League plans to introduce all of the remaining roster that haven't had a cinematic opportunity, I don't think I would like it at all. If they want to "rush it" maybe they should make a film with a Justice League fully established. But still, it seems wrong.

I rather see separate films for a few years more to build up a Justice League film. I think DC characters work better as stand-alone stories. But that's just me.

The Avengers will be hard to top, I still can't believe how they managed to do it. It was just great. If Warner Bros. rushes this, the chances of success will be really slim.

 

[jmc]

Yep, still don't give a ****.

 

[Octoberist]

This could be awkward. Not so much with Nolan's Batman but they should bring in Cavill's Superman into Justice League because it's stupid to have two ongoing actors playing the same character by the same company.

And this ain't comic books when you can have Superman in multiple titles drawn by different artists; not the same. It's movies. It's a different medium.

 

[Octoberist]

Really? These guys put out Nolan's Batman and Watchmen, they're putting out Cloud Atlas. They're definitely not averse to risk. Putting Batman & Superman in the same film is guaranteed cash.

I think WB is a great studio but many of projects are being developed by different execs. Some execs are more geeky than others, like the guys who OKed Cloud Atlas and Pac Rim.

Then you got the execs who think they're cool, like the guys who handled Green Lantern.

 

[Octoberist]

I can't really defend him on the GL front, but surely you realize he probably had next to nothing to do with the final product of Wrath of the Titans. It was a "Story By" credit only.

He mentored the screenwriters and produced the film. And it's still a mess.

 

[Octoberist]

Batman is Batman. That risk is justified with good marketing.

Watchmen seems to have happen because of how well 300 did and they thought its success and Snyder's name would be good enough. Also the fanboy hype.

Isn't Cloud Atlas more of an award-bait kind of film? Is it even that expensive?

How often do you hear about trilogies just being made all together these days?

Cloud Atlas could win Oscars but it's an ambitious sci-fi/fantasy film so it's not 'Oscar Bait'. I hope.

 

[Raiden]

It seems more than coincidental that WB is announcing a writer for Justice League only a month after The Avengers' record-breaking OW and surge to #3 all-time in both domestic and foreign box office. But Hollywood is a copycat industry so I'm not too surprise to see it happen. For comic fans everywhere, though, this is a great news, and the success of either Marvel or DC will only benefit the genre as a whole. It's gonna be interesting to see how WB will tackle their own superhero team-up movie.

 

[Rock Sexton]

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Justice-League-Script-Described-Dark-Mature-31282.html

its not in response to Avengers...the guy was commissioned to write the script a year ago

Ya but scripts are written all the time. The fact that there was indeed an "arms race" to get a team-up movie done, it's no surprise that the news is making rounds on this current script on the heels of The Avengers killing it at the BO. DC is trying to win back some spot light.

They really should lead with "World's Finest" and then move into "Justice League" when Batman and Superman realize a threat they cannot handle alone. In it's own way, it would come off more original.

 

[Raiden]

Ya but scripts are written all the time. The fact that there was indeed an "arms race" to get a team-up movie done, it's no surprise that the news is making rounds on this current script on the heels of The Avengers killing it at the BO. DC is trying to win back some spot light.

They really should lead with "World's Finest" and then move into "Justice League" when Batman and Superman realize a threat they cannot handle alone. In it's own way, it would come off more original.

Yeah, I'm sure WB has appointed someone to write the script for their long-dormant projects such as WW, Flash, and JLA, but the difference now is that they seemed to be putting them on the fast track, and one doesn't have to look far to see the reason why: The Avengers and their 1.5B+ gross WW. But like Lakers vs Celtics and Yankees vs Red Sox, I think competition brings out the best in a person or company, and if WB is indeed serious about JLA I think it will spurt Marvel to become even more motivated to make TA2 the best that they can make it. It could be the start of an arm's race between the two comic giants, and now with their respective conglomerate parent company backing them up financially, it is truly an even playing field.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

you mean The Avengers! hah

 

[Octoberist]

Until there's a release date and a director attached, this is all vaporware.

 

[LauraT]

I think it had to do with The Avengers, since it was well into production when the writer was hired and the Variety article says:

Warner Bros. had no comment on the top-secret hire, which, due to its timing, was more in anticipation of -- rather than a reaction to -- the box office success of "The Avengers."

So they saw how Avengers was coming together and that gave them a kickstart to hire a writer for the previously dead project if The Avengers had flopped you can bet we wouldn't be hearing about a JL right now. They'd have waited for the fuss to die down even if it was still something they wanted to keep in development. And from what I've read about it I think it's lucky the 2007/2008 attempt never got off the ground.

Personally I thought having superheroes from separate movies is a huge part of what worked for The Avengers, even if many of the GA hadn't seen all the movies, most were aware they'd been made. It seems likely that they'll go for a JL movie and then use that to reboot previously less popular characters for solo movies using Superman, Batman and to a lesser extent Wonder Woman to carry the weight of the hype for the movie. Tricky but it might work if they have a really awesome script.

Introducing Aquaman, Flash, Martian Manhunter rebooting Green Lantern and creating a successful modern version of Wonder Woman is a tall order though. I want to see if they can pull it off by some miracle.

 

[Octoberist]

It's a very tall order, especially since the team is so big. And so damn powerful.

 

[Karem-Knight]

I always thought The Avengers had more of a legitmate reason for starting with a team movie, than doing solo movies afterwards; since most of the team beforehand weren't as well known. Whilst the Justice League had Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, who are the most iconic superheroes.

Plus it always seemed to me that Green Lantern, Aquaman's and Flash's mythos were more diverse and compelling than Iron Man's or Hulk's (Cap and Thor have diffrent areas to explore what with Bucky and World War II and Asgard). Also the DC Heroes all heroes have all their own little corners so it would have made sense trying to make the solo movies for the DC Heroes grand and as epic as it could be than doing a JLA film afterwards. However, it looks like the complete opposite has happened, and Marvel has made their core team's members mainstream succsses whilst the general public will see (with the exception Superman, Batman and *sigh* Green Lantern) DC's Wonder Woman, Flash and Aquaman on the big screen for the first time in a Justice League movie.

 

[Raiden]

It's a very tall order, especially since the team is so big. And so damn powerful.

I think that is a hinderance for a JLA movie, because they have so many powerful superheroes that it will make it a challenge to create a villain that can mount up any opposition to them. If you look at the Avengers, aside from Thor all the other members are actually very human and quite fragile, thus made them quite relatable to the audience. Stark with his suit is just a billionaire who needs the arc reactor to keep him alive, and Steve Rogers without his shield can still be shot and bleed like anybody else on the planet. I think it is obvious that if WB truly commits on making a JLA movie, they'll have to figure out something that will work for their superhero team.

 

[solidsnake86]

DC dosent announce any movies being made:

"MArvel's kicking your ass! You only care about Batman and Superman! WAHHH!"

DC announces its trying to make a Justice League flick, reminds people they're still trying to make WW and Flash films:

"DC is rushing things! They'll screw this up! WAHHH!"

Jesus Christ.

Haha, so true.

Rushing things is what marvel did and guess what, that turned out fine for most people so why is there a double standard when it comes to dc.

Also with these comments about the writers from GL, honestly their original draft was much better than the film and its obvious that the project failing had more than the script as a reason why it failed.

It really doesn't shock me that they have a script being written and frankly I don't see why most people are up in arms because deep down everyone knew this was going to happen. They basically had a justice league film rolling in front of the camera's in 2008 before the dark knight was released before it got shut down. They even had sets, costumes, and cast. Hopefully it works out for the best.

 

[protocida]

Thor and Hulk were underpowered in The Avengers. I expect the Justice League's heavy-hitters - Superman, The Flash and Green Lantern - to go the same way.

And Warner's "track record" with the fanboys always confuses me. In terms of superheroes, they've made Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, which are considered great, Superman Returns, which is considered "meh", and Green Lantern and Catwoman, which are considered "bad". Yet, they've treated as if they've made the worst comic book movies ever.

 

[solidsnake86]

I think that is a hinderance for a JLA movie, because they have so many powerful superheroes that it will make it a challenge to create a villain that can mount up any opposition to them. If you look at the Avengers, aside from Thor all the other members are actually very human and quite fragile, thus made them quite relatable to the audience. Stark with his suit is just a billionaire who needs the arc reactor to keep him alive, and Steve Rogers without his shield can still be shot and bleed like anybody else on the planet. I think it is obvious that if WB truly commits on making a JLA movie, they'll have to figure out something that will work for their superhero team.

Really? hulk and iron man were basically unstoppable in the movie. I don't think they were injured once considering iron man just fainted.

They way they were presented in the avengers was no less powerful than they can make the members of the justice league.

 

[craigdbfan]

Thor and Hulk were underpowered in The Avengers. I expect the Justice League's heavy-hitters - Superman, The Flash and Green Lantern - to go the same way.

And Warner's "track record" with the fanboys always confuses me. In terms of superheroes, they've made Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, which are considered great, Superman Returns, which is considered "meh", and Green Lantern and Catwoman, which are considered "bad". Yet, they've treated as if they've made the worst comic book movies ever.

Christopher Nolan made Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. He came towards them with the idea. The idea wasn't conceived by the studio.

Their best "heavy" input superhero films have been Superman: The Movie, SM2, Batman 89', and Returns. However management has changed drastically since then and like Octoberist said they're quite a few different suits up in the food chain with differing views in terms of approach.

With that said WB is one of the more capable studios. Sure they've made mistakes but their potential to create great things is higher than most. So I hope they end up doing the best they can.

Having MOS along with the Batman reboot eventually tie into a Worlds Finest would have been ideal and the best idea if you ask me. That would test the waters before using the JL. MOS, Untitled Batman (reboot), Worlds Finest, The Justice League.

 

[EML420]

Thor and Hulk were underpowered in The Avengers. I expect the Justice League's heavy-hitters - Superman, The Flash and Green Lantern - to go the same way.

And Warner's "track record" with the fanboys always confuses me. In terms of superheroes, they've made Batman Begins and The Dark Knight, which are considered great, Superman Returns, which is considered "meh", and Green Lantern and Catwoman, which are considered "bad". Yet, they've treated as if they've made the worst comic book movies ever.

Theres also the other stuff like the movies based of Alan Moore books
and The Losers.

 

[Longshot777]

Look.

I love the JL way more than The Avengers!!

And DC over Marvel anytime!!

BUT...

...Making a Justice League movie now after the success of the Avengers will just make it a pale imitation.

Marvel has beaten DC to the punch here...and mass audience will always like what came first.

Ironcally JL came first BUT Avengers took that crown by making a BlockBuster movie FIRST.

Every All-Star Superhero team movie that comes out after will just be A COPY CAT to the eyes of the GENERAL PUBLIC.

SADLY, If they do a separate individual movies of each JL member then a JL movie at the end will be considered a WANNABE Avengers movie.

That is just the nature of the beast with these things.

The Beatles came up with Sgt. Pepperes first before Beach Boys came up with their own masterpiece.


If JL does get made...it has to BE WAY DIFFERENT than how Avengers came to be. Which is really hard to do.

I really can't see how JL can pull it off without being a wannabe Avengers movie. I just can't. THE GENERAL PUBLIC will just say it's a RIP-OFF of the Avengers.


Marvel really beat DC to the punch on this one.

One of the JL's strength is when they battle powerful aliens showcasing their individual powers BUT sadly Avengers took that away from them by doing it FIRST on their movie.

Sure it will be epic BUT like I said the MASS AUDIENCE will just say..."We've seen this before...with the Avengers."

It really sucks because the JL has way better superheroes than the Avengers but DC slacked off and Marvel scored a hit.

If they do make a JL then all they need is the TOP 5:

Superman - The World's first and greatest superhero
Batman - The World's most dangerous superhero
Wonder Woman - The World's Top female superhero
The Flash - The World's fastest superhero
Green Lantern - The World's most powerful superhero

THAT's IT for the ROSTer and to have a brilliant writer/director/producer and HOPEFULLY it will surpass the Avengers.

But I really can't see it.

I think DC would have to wait a decade for a JL movie to be it's own movie.

Just like Tim Burton's Batman has to wait a decade for Donner's Superman to fade and like wise with X-men and Spiderman waiting a decade for Burton's Batman's supremacy to fade.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

DC needs a good creative force behind the properties and a take that is different from Marvels.

DC's library comes out of the 40s as opposed to the Marvel characters of the 60s. DC has to do a serious and modernized retelling of these legends as they have a more classic legend approach. Let marvel do its thing, and concentrate on delivering epic motion pictures about these legends in todays modern world and all the thrills it brings.

I fear that WB doesnt really know how to handle these things however. It doesnt seem to me like Nolan is actually involved in QBing projects other than batman and superman.

 

[protocida]

Theres also the other stuff like the movies based of Alan Moore books
and The Losers.

I was focusing on superheroes, but really. From Hell, V for Vendetta, Constantine and Watchmen might be "bad" adaptations, but they're great movies. And The Losers was fun.

 

[EML420]

There still comic book adapation but you know how people are around here if a movie isnt great its bad there are people in the middle but they dont speak up enough.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I think that is a hinderance for a JLA movie, because they have so many powerful superheroes that it will make it a challenge to create a villain that can mount up any opposition to them. If you look at the Avengers, aside from Thor all the other members are actually very human and quite fragile, thus made them quite relatable to the audience. Stark with his suit is just a billionaire who needs the arc reactor to keep him alive, and Steve Rogers without his shield can still be shot and bleed like anybody else on the planet. I think it is obvious that if WB truly commits on making a JLA movie, they'll have to figure out something that will work for their superhero team.

Ya, I'm really curious as well ..... seems extremely complicated from a genuine screen play standpoint.