Justice League Status Updates Thread - Part 1

[protocida]

Didn't know Aquaman was a villain.

Also, Ares, Circe, Morgana Le Fey and Grodd are not big enough for a movie.

Luthor could work, and Faust makes for a good underling, but not a main antagonist.

 

[Lily Adler]

he did that alreadyt:

Shhh. The GA don't know that.

 

[terry78]

Technically didn't Aquaman have the same mindset as Namor, that the surface was filled with disrespectful rabble who didn't take care of mother Earth?

 

[protocida]

Not really, no. And even in his "GRM, I HATE SURFACE" phase, he never did anything against us.

Never been a villain.

 

[Lily Adler]

So this WHOLE TIME, Aquaman wasn't an aquatic themed eco-terrorist? Darn.

 

[tekken]

paradox1: Aquaman being a villain???

I think maybe he meant Ocean Master

 

[Airwings]

Which Superman villain would be best in JL, when all the heroes team up?
Lex Luthor, Metallo, Brainiac, Mxyzptlk, Parasite, Bizzaro, Darkseid or Doomsday? I think we need atleast two of them.
But save some for World's Finest and "Trinity", guys!

 

[Hammer!]

Wait so is it pretty much a guarantee that this comes out before Flash, Wonder Women, etc? If so I have serious doubts that this comes close to the critical and financial success of The Avengers.

 

[Donut]

Wait so is it pretty much a guarantee that this comes out before Flash, Wonder Women, etc? If so I have serious doubts that this comes close to the critical and financial success of The Avengers.

I would be excited & very nervous at the same time. The WB can not not meddle in when it comes to their DC movies

Which Superman villain would be best in JL, when all the heroes team up?
Lex Luthor, Metallo, Brainiac, Mxyzptlk, Parasite, Bizzaro, Darkseid or Doomsday? I think we need atleast two of them.
But save some for World's Finest and "Trinity", guys!

I say start head on with Darkseid. A bad guy that can take on the Justice League himself & not have another army do it for him. Then in the sequels after the Justice League thinks they have defeated him he plots his next move & bring in the other guys. The WB can then also do different stories like Alternate Realities & Time Travel etc

 

[Boosted]

Wait so is it pretty much a guarantee that this comes out before Flash, Wonder Women, etc? If so I have serious doubts that this comes close to the critical and financial success of The Avengers.

There's more than one way to skin a cat. All the movies leading up the avengers were mediocre to just good imo. Avengers was really good, but it was still one big fight.

If a WB gives me a single JL with more depth, then I'll forgive them for not giving me 1.5 hour JL tie ins starring the flash and wonder woman.

and WB would like to make 1.5 billion dollars, but they don't need to. And there's little guarantee that Flash and Wonder Woman movies would lead to Avengers sized box office. Also super little guarantee that we'd get a Justice League from that.

JL has never been about a group like SHIELD bringing them together anyway. That's who tied all the avenger movies together.

 

[protocida]

Justice League obviously won't earn as much as The Avengers, though I believe it can come close or even break the $1 billion mark if WB plays their cards right.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Wait so is it pretty much a guarantee that this comes out before Flash, Wonder Women, etc? If so I have serious doubts that this comes close to the critical and financial success of The Avengers.

It has Superman and Batman. It doesn't need to give every character a movie that most people who see Justice League probably wouldn't see. I don't think not giving Flash and Wonder Woman solo movies beforehand will hurt Justice League, but help Flash and Wonder Woman.

 

[tekken]

Are people really doubting the success of JL? That's preposterous - the movie will rake in so much money, it's not even funny. The real question is whether it will be a good movie or not. The box office numbers is a non-issue - people will flock to the theaters ASAP. You wouldn't???? It's the GD JUSTICE LEAGUE!

Making more superhero movies to "build up" the JL movie is more risky in my opinion. You want more GL's before the JL movie? No one's going to care if the past movies sucked. I say go head on strong with JL, and make it good. The solo movies would get hyped after a JL movie, but not the other way around. These aren't new characters - they've been a part of American pop culture for a long time. Everyone knows the Justice League, so I say do it now.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Wasnt that the initial thought for Superman aswell? JL will probably make bank if it is good but it isnt a guarenteed hit.

 

[Hammer!]

There's more than one way to skin a cat. All the movies leading up the avengers were mediocre to just good imo. Avengers was really good, but it was still one big fight.

If a WB gives me a single JL with more depth, then I'll forgive them for not giving me 1.5 hour JL tie ins starring the flash and wonder woman.

and WB would like to make 1.5 billion dollars, but they don't need to. And there's little guarantee that Flash and Wonder Woman movies would lead to Avengers sized box office. Also super little guarantee that we'd get a Justice League from that.

JL has never been about a group like SHIELD bringing them together anyway. That's who tied all the avenger movies together.

That's fine that you thought they were mediocre to good, but the fact is they were both critical and commercial successes. Not only is the consensus that Iron Man, Thor, Cap, etc. were good movies, but they also introduced the characters into the public mind with great results. Try and imagine watching the Avengers without those movies, it wouldn't have been as successful, and it certainly wouldn't have the second highest tomato-meter score of the year.

Its foolish to expect the public to immediately care for characters like the Flash, WW, etc. when they know nothing about them. Granted they've heard the names, but nine out of ten people don't know how Flash got his powers, or that WW is an Amazon. You know comments such as, "Why they did they change Batman actors" and "Why is the Green Lantern on the team? His movie sucked" will be abundant. It can work don't get me wrong, but it's going to be a hell of a tough sell for the GA. And I don't want Justice League to waste a lot of the story to develop who the characters are...

 

[HighFivingMF]

Try and imagine watching the Avengers without those movies, it wouldn't have been as successful, and it certainly wouldn't have the second highest tomato-meter score of the year.

Looking at the gross... Most people who saw Avengers didn't see the other movies beforehand.

 

[Paradox1]

paradox1: Aquaman being a villain???

Aquamans been on the fringe of attacking the surface world so many times. He doesn't have to stay the villain it can be shown later that he's being played by someone else like a ocean master, Cadmus or black mantis working on behalf of someone else like Vandal Savage. It would be different and unexpected, Completely destroying the GA lasting memory of Aquaman as the guy who rode the seahorse in the superfriends.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Get it out of the way right now? What kind of threat could possibly be more threatening than an alien invasion? After you do that, you can't really get any bigger unless you're going to bring in even more aliens. I'd much rather have them save the aliens for last - there's still a lot of evil to be done by Earthlings alone. There's a bunch of aliens in the League anyway - aliens should be seen as saviors first so the eventual alien invasion would antagonize the League later on.

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it depends on the aliens. technically the csa, or the sinestro corps are alien.

i prefer something like this.

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4lEr2zsKZc&feature=related[/YT]

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Aquamans been on the fringe of attacking the surface world so many times. He doesn't have to stay the villain it can be shown later that he's being played by someone else like a ocean master, Cadmus or black mantis working on behalf of someone else like Vandal Savage. It would be different and unexpected, Completely destroying the GA lasting memory of Aquaman as the guy who rode the seahorse in the superfriends.

this is why i want wondy vs aquaman. its a vehicle introducing him and wondy that you can slowly develop into a jl film.

 

[Hammer!]

Looking at the gross... Most people who saw Avengers didn't see the other movies beforehand.

I think your leaving out a large number of people who saw all the movies via dvd, streaming, pirating, etc. A large quantity of my friends did just that.

And I'm not arguing that it won't make bank, it will. I just think not having foundations for any of the characters, unless it ties into MoS, is gonna come back to bite them.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

Justice League obviously won't earn as much as The Avengers, though I believe it can come close or even break the $1 billion mark if WB plays their cards right.

there's no way of knowing that at this point. if a batman franchise alone can compete with the avengers money wise, who's to say that teaming him with superman won't exceed what the avengers did.

 

[roach]

Its foolish to expect the public to immediately care for characters like the Flash, WW, etc. when they know nothing about them. Granted they've heard the names, but nine out of ten people don't know how Flash got his powers, or that WW is an Amazon. You know comments such as, "Why they did they change Batman actors" and "Why is the Green Lantern on the team? His movie sucked" will be abundant. It can work don't get me wrong, but it's going to be a hell of a tough sell for the GA. And I don't want Justice League to waste a lot of the story to develop who the characters are...

the GA didnt know much about Black Widow or Hawkeye and it didnt seem to bother them.
Solo movies leading up to the event are not the only way to do things. Think about the Hulk. Imagine he didn't have movies before Avengers. Now imagine Hulk has a movie coming out soon. The buzz he got from Avengers would translate into sales for Hulk.

 

[metaphysician]

the GA didnt know much about Black Widow or Hawkeye and it didnt seem to bother them.
Solo movies leading up to the event are not the only way to do things. Think about the Hulk. Imagine he didn't have movies before Avengers. Now imagine Hulk has a movie coming out soon. The buzz he got from Avengers would translate into sales for Hulk.

The Hulk had GA awareness, thanks to the 70s TV show. Nobody outside the Big Three in DC has anything like that ( the Flash TV show was short lived and very obscure, Green Lantern has a terrible movie that does him no favors with the GA, etc ). And if your hoping to pull off not one Ruffalo redo, but multiple in the same movie. . .

 

[Micromind]

general awareness about green lantern is at the same level as that of Hulk.

People have seen GL in -

* Green Lantern Comics, the character is more then 50 years old.

* Bruce Timm's - Justice League and Justice League Unlimited animated series.

* Two Direct to video animated movies.

* Live action Green Lantern movie (those who did not go to the movie at least had seen the TV spots and trailers, as there was huge marketing.)

* Recently launched Green Lantern animated series on Cartoon Network.

I think this much GL is enough to create some amount of awareness.

 

[tekken]

You guys are nuts. The GA loves the JLA because of Bruce Timm's animated universe. The GA thinks Wally West is the best Flash, and that Green Lantern is originally a black character, making the movie with Ryan Reynolds "racist." I don't know where people get this idea that non-fans don't know about members of the Justice League - that's preposterous. They know, but only from Bruce Timm's animated universe.