Lionsgate "Power Rangers" - - - - Part 13

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[DarthSkywalker]

Also, Divergent teaser came out August, official trailer November. So again, 3 month gap. Darth you tried to spin what he said in a negative direction & it backfired, haha.

Did you read what she wrote?

Its

6 months teaser

3 months trailer

1 month final trailer

One, all but one "full trailer" came out before the 3 month mark. Two, we are inside 3 months already. Three the teaser was well within 6 months.

Did you read what that poster wrote?

 

[2kt09]

TASM was just serious in general along with being funnier than all of the Raimi films combined

Ta loca!
For something like this, it is indeed expected to be more along the lines of TASM2/Homecoming.

I don't actually think Project Almanac was truly "bad" moreso disappointing compared to what it could have been.

Thought the movie was fine, albeit quite the Minutemen ripoff.

The teaser totally missed the point. Instead of having its own identity, it's very derivative of these YA movies we've seen in the recent years.

There's only one, maybe 3 recent YA movies, at best, that come to mind. The rest are romcoms, dystopic fantasies or action/horror comedies.

While it is a money market business and everyone is trying to get a bite from the nostalgia tree, here is a property where it is OK and EXPECTED that things be bright, poppy, campy, OTT and people not bat an eye.

The expectation is Batman and Robin...in case anyone forgot how cheesy/cornball Mighty Morphin was. It definitely wasn't going to be Power/Rangers
nor the optimal middle ground = Whedon/Bay's MMPR

I don't wanna get attacked for this but like does anybody in this thread even like the movie?

I do so very much get a kick out of what people are complaining about this week. I'll probably be the only one who's interested in this for what it currently presents itself to be.
Chronicle meets The Breakfast Club...why wouldn't I be?

 

[harryoscop]

Did you read what she wrote?


Its


6 months teaser


3 months trailer


1 month final trailer


One, all but one "full trailer" came out before the 3 month mark. Two, we are inside 3 months already. Three the teaser was well within 6 months.


Did you read what that poster wrote?

Yes I did, did you? Either my reading comprehension is failing me or I still don't understand your point. We're not a month late yet. For comparison-- Power Rangers teaser (Oct. 2016) Let's count: 1 (November) 2 (December) 3 (Janaury) That's three months. It's only been two months since the last teaser.

Divergent teaser (Aug. 2013) 1 (September) 2 (October) 3 (November).


Using Lionsgate own track record, the trailer should be out next month & it won't be late.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Either my reading comprehension is failing me or I still don't understand your point. We're not a month late yet. For comparison-- Power Rangers teaser (Oct. 2016) Let's count: 1 (November) 2 (December) 3 (Janaury) That's three months. It's only been two months since the last teaser.

Divergent teaser (Aug. 2013) 1 (September) 2 (October) 3 (November).


Using Lionsgate own track record, the trailer should be out next month & it won't be late.

Yes, your reading comprehension is failing you.

This is what GoseiRed wrote:

If it makes any of you feel better I was going back and watching some of THG and Divergent trailers and Lionsgate seems to follow a pattern when it comes to trailer releases. It typically goes from 6 months out for a teaser, 3 months out for a "Official Trailer," then 1 month out for the "Final Trailer." So by all intent another trailer is on the way and I'm 95% sure it'll be here early January. Honestly, I think it'd be smart to debut it during some of the NFL Playoff games if they could or even the NCAA Nat'l Championship game as those always have pretty good viewership.

Notice the time being measured isn't between the trailers, but the distance from the film. Its not "3 months between trailer and teaser" it is, "6 months out teaser, 3 months out for trailer". Which shows they started these trailers late and don't have a full one out less then 3 months before. They did not release one during one of the biggest periods of the year.

Lionsgate's own track record shows they start earlier. Divergent's trailer came out over 4 months before the film. THG series all had trailers out before the 3 month mark.

 

[harryoscop]

Ok, I see what you're saying now. But it's only, like, two months late from when they release teasers for their movies. It's not a big deal, it's still likely to drop the official trailer next month either way.

But even then, the point of his post was to estimate when we'd get the next trailer.

 

[Snow Queen]

Ok, I see what you're saying now. But it's only, like, two months late from when they release teasers for their movies. It's not a big deal, it's still likely to drop the official trailer next month either way.

Two months is a long time when you're only dealing with six months.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Ok, I see what you're saying now. But it's only, like, two months late from when they release teasers for their movies. It's not a big deal, it's still likely to drop the official trailer next month either way.

It is a big deal. Because they went out of their way with Hunger Games and Divergent to release the trailers in heavy traffic time periods. July, November and December are all prime months for big trailers because people are watching movies like crazy.

The trailer releases are late and in October and January? Dumping months.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Two months is a long time when you're only dealing with six months.

Exactly.

Also look at Rogue One. They release the full trailer a bit early in August to specifically stick it with the Olympics.

I mean I guess they could try and hook it onto the National Championship Game or the Super Bowl, but for the first real trailer to be out almost two months before? That is crazy.

 

[sweetre15]

Ta loca!
For something like this, it is indeed expected to be more along the lines of TASM2/Homecoming.

To me, the scenes where Spidey is cracking jokes in costume or the humor bits in the Library fight with the Lizard as well as Emma Stone'a trolling her father with "women problems" to make him leave her alone was a lot funny than a lot of SM1's "jokes" like "Let Mom and Dad talk for a minute will ya!", "You're out Gobby, outta your mind!" Or "Nice outfit did your husband give it to you". Like geese, Raimi's humor was almost 3rd grade level in Spider-Man in that it's more cheesy than it is legitimately funny as examples.

Overall though, I wouldn't mind the TASM movies' mix of seriousness and humor for this....If it could avoid the creative pitfalls of TASM2

 

[TeeKay]

There's only one, maybe 3 recent YA movies, at best, that come to mind. The rest are romcoms, dystopic fantasies or action/horror comedies.

My point still stands. Because the teaser felt like a Chronicle, FFINO, Breakfast Club mixed in with Max Steel and I am Number Four. If you didn't know it it was PR, you'd assume it's any of those movies I've mentioned. It has no identity.

The expectation is Batman and Robin...in case anyone forgot how cheesy/cornball Mighty Morphin was. It definitely wasn't going to be Power/Rangers
nor the optimal middle ground = Whedon/Bay's MMPR

Umm what? Nobody was expecting a Batman and Robin style tone here. Problem is, they chose to rip off everything that's popular now instead of establishing their own mythology and identity. It looks derivative. I know that this is the age of the reboot but this is the one I just find incredibly confusing. Power Rangers is a self rebooting franchise and has been for like 20 years. Every generation of kids has had their own iteration of Power Rangers which will give them the nostalgic feelings this sort of film relies on for success.

So who is this film meant to appeal to? They're using the original Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers as the basis so is it for the fans of that? Because it's going to be literally nothing like MMPR. Is it aimed at kids today? They don't care about old Power Rangers they've got their own Power Rangers.

Is it for the ones who loved the original series but now are desperate for some sort of dark and gritty version of Power Rangers? You love Power Rangers when you're a kid because you like bright colours and fighting. It's a show meant to sell toys. I'm confused.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

YA novels do encompass sci-fi and other genres. The Hunger Games, Divergent, The Fault in Our Stars and Harry Potter are all young adult.

 

[2kt09]

To me, the scenes where Spidey is cracking jokes in costume or the humor bits in the Library fight with the Lizard as well as Emma Stone'a trolling her father with "women problems" to make him leave her alone was a lot funny than a lot of SM1's "jokes" like "Let Mom and Dad talk for a minute will ya!", "You're out Gobby, outta your mind!" Or "Nice outfit did your husband give it to you". Like geese, Raimi's humor was almost 3rd grade level in Spider-Man in that it's more cheesy than it is legitimately funny as examples.

I have a hard time remembering TASM's jokes, whereas Raimi offered a lot of flexibility in comedy. I definitely appreciated the visual gags and character quirks more than the puns, which TASM relied a bit too much of.
In a way, I guess the "true MMPR" adaptation would eschew more towards Raimi, but a modern take would likely be more Webb.

Overall though, I wouldn't mind the TASM movies' mix of seriousness and humor for this....If it could avoid the creative pitfalls of TASM2

The first one is fine because it's a slightly more serious rehash of the first Raimi flick. TASM2 is definitely not a mix worth emulating because of just how jarring it shifts between the two, which would be that only major creative pitfall.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

No filmmaker worth their salt would emulate the failed Amazing Spider-Man series. Hollywood emulates successful films not failures. One can like and prefer the Webb Spider-Man films all they want but they were failures.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No filmmaker worth their salt would emulate the failed Amazing Spider-Man series. Hollywood emulates successful films not failures. One can like and prefer the Webb Spider-Man films all they want but they were failures.

9 years of inflation and 3D, and still couldn't keep up.

 

[harryoscop]

So who is this film meant to appeal to? They're using the original Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers as the basis so is it for the fans of that? Because it's going to be literally nothing like MMPR.

Yes it will be like MMPR. The plot is basically Day of the Dumpster from MMPR, the teens, Zordon, Rita, Goldar, Zords etc are all from Mighty Morphin'. Even the suits have a clear influence from MMPR...

Is it aimed at kids today? They don't care about old Power Rangers they've got their own Power Rangers.

Kinda ridiculous saying that because any kid who watches Power Rangers today are going to be interested in this movie. That's like saying kids who watch Ultimate Spider-Man won't care about Homecoming because they already have 'their Spider-Man' on TV.

Is it for the ones who loved the original series but now are desperate for some sort of dark and gritty version of Power Rangers? You love Power Rangers when you're a kid because you like bright colours and fighting. It's a show meant to sell toys. I'm confused.

Precisely, yes it is. People who watched MMPR as a kid but grew out of it when they got older aren't going to be looking for the same thing they saw in the 90s. I think many casual fans will appreciate a more serious, character-driven, big budget version of Mighty Morphin'.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes it will be like MMPR. The plot is basically Day of the Dumpster from MMPR, the teens, Zordon, Rita, Goldar, Zords etc are all from Mighty Morphin'. Even the suits have a clear influence from MMPR... Kinda ridiculous saying that because any kid who watches Power Rangers today are going to be interested in this movie. That's like saying kids who watch Ultimate Spider-Man won't care about Homecoming because they already have 'their Spider-Man' on TV.

Precisely, yes it is. People who watched MMPR as a kid but grew out of it when they got older aren't going to be looking for the same thing they saw in the 90s. I think many casual fans will appreciate a more serious, character-driven, big budget version of Mighty Morphin'.

You just described SPIDEY and myself and yet dismiss everything we say.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

9 years of inflation and 3D, and still couldn't keep up.

Exactly.

Even the ****** DCEU is trying to emulate successful films like The Dark Knight trilogy. Sure they are copying it very badly (Skyfall being the example of a good Nolan movie rip-off) but are trying to copy a massively successful franchise.

People need to leave their opinions at the door and look at it reality. It would be a terrible idea for the Power Rangers movie to follow the Webb Spider-Man movies lead. Following the 09 Star Trek reboot would be a better idea.

 

[harryoscop]

I'm talking about people who won't complain about the movie because the helmets are taller than the show helmets.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm talking about people who won't complain about the movie because the helmets are taller than the show helmets.

Yes, those are our only complaints.

 

[TeeKay]

Yes it will be like MMPR. The plot is basically Day of the Dumpster from MMPR, the teens, Zordon, Rita, Goldar, Zords etc are all from Mighty Morphin'. Even the suits have a clear influence from MMPR... Kinda ridiculous saying that because any kid who watches Power Rangers today are going to be interested in this movie. That's like saying kids who watch Ultimate Spider-Man won't care about Homecoming because they already have 'their Spider-Man' on TV.

Precisely, yes it is. People who watched MMPR as a kid but grew out of it when they got older aren't going to be looking for the same thing they saw in the 90s. I think many casual fans will appreciate a more serious, character-driven, big budget version of Mighty Morphin'.

lol and yet they're still trying to distance themselves away from the show. It all feels like desperate, try-too-hard grim-darkness. The fact that it is just transparently mimicking other YA movies at times does it no favors either. The dialogue all sounds pretty tin-eared (especially Rita’s threat toward the end, itself a scene that looks unbearably over-wrought already), too, and the decision to show us literally not one god-dammed thing that is even remotely identifiable as “Power Rangers” leaves me feeling, as I have for a while now, that cloying sense of self-shame for their source material.

Shame, too. Feels like this movie had a unique opportunity to let loose in a way even a Marvel movie really can’t, and I’m sad to see it’s pretty obviously not taking it. There's potential but it's being squandered by poor decision making.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm talking about people who won't complain about the movie because the helmets are taller than the show helmets.

Ah of course, moving the goalpost again.

I do not like the helmet's shape because it looks bad. The old show helmets fit rather perfectly all things considered. Here we are talking about helmets which for no reason extend well above the head to make the eye region bigger. But to be clear, that isn't my only reason.

 

[OtherwiseKnownAs]

I'm talking about people who won't complain about the movie because the helmets are taller than the show helmets.

Yeah, that's it man. You got it.

 

[harryoscop]

Exactly.

Even the ****** DCEU is trying to emulate successful films like The Dark Knight trilogy. Sure they are copying it very badly (Skyfall being the example of a good Nolan movie rip-off) but are trying to copy a massively successful franchise.

People need to leave their opinions at the door and look at it reality. It would be a terrible idea for the Power Rangers movie to follow the Webb Spider-Man movies lead. Following the 09 Star Trek reboot would be a better idea.

Even though the first TASM was NOT A failure.