Live-Action The Little Mermaid

[samsnee]

Halle Bailey's Little Mermaid: Disney Updated Love Story - Variety

 

[Primal Slayer]

...Ariel didn't leavd the sea just for a boy in the animated movie.

Reboots really need to stop trying to act like they are groundbreaking. Reminds me of Charmed reboot saying they would be feminist.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

...Ariel didn't leavd the sea just for a boy in the animated movie.

Reboots really need to stop trying to act like they are groundbreaking. Reminds me of Charmed reboot saying they would be feminist.

Ariel wanted to leave before she even met Eric. She had been collecting human artifacts for years.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

...Ariel didn't leavd the sea just for a boy in the animated movie.

Reboots really need to stop trying to act like they are groundbreaking. Reminds me of Charmed reboot saying they would be feminist.

Ariel wanted to leave before she even met Eric. She had been collecting human artifacts for years.

Time to be controversial.

While Ariel clearly has a fascination with the land and those who walk it, the way the film plays out, ties her actual motivation to "get off her fin" is to be with the boy. Ariel, who loves to sing, gives it up, not to walk on land or to be free. It's for the boy. The tug-of-war in her heart isn't between the land and the sea. It's between her father and her husband. It plays into the classic sexist trope of a woman leaving home once she finds her husband. It's why five minutes after meeting Eric, they get married. Even in BatB, they spend a good amount of time together. The seasons change, they montage, etc. All Ariel knows about boy, is boy pretty. And that's enough for her to enter a deal where she has to make him fall in love with her.

I do agree these companies speak up the way they've "changed" things, without much thought to what they're actually saying. But I also think that the Little Mermaid as a story, could easily be updated to be more feminist then the original tale. The same applies to my beloved Charmed. Where Cole was a thing.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Girl's never even seen a human penis. Of course she's curious.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Time to be controversial.

While Ariel clearly has a fascination with the land and those who walk it, the way the film plays out, ties her actual motivation to "get off her fin" is to be with the boy. Ariel, who loves to sing, gives it up, not to walk on land or to be free. It's for the boy. The tug-of-war in her heart isn't between the land and the sea. It's between her father and her husband. It plays into the classic sexist trope of a woman leaving home once she finds her husband. It's why five minutes after meeting Eric, they get married. Even in BatB, they spend a good amount of time together. The seasons change, they montage, etc. All Ariel knows about boy, is boy pretty. And that's enough for her to enter a deal where she has to make him fall in love with her.

I do agree these companies speak up the way they've "changed" things, without much thought to what they're actually saying. But I also think that the Little Mermaid as a story, could easily be updated to be more feminist then the original tale. The same applies to my beloved Charmed. Where Cole was a thing.

As far as Cole, he didn't make the show less feminist. The reboot was less feminist than the original

 

[DarthSkywalker]

As far as Cole, he didn't make the show less feminist. The reboot was less feminist than the original

I didn't watch any of the new show, so I can't comment on that. With Cole. For two and half seasons, they basically had Phoebe's entire character revolve around him. She gave up her agency, put her sisters at risk, and even "went evil" for a little while, because boy. While boy went through the, "Being a better man for you" trope that's just... sigh. To cap it all, it only end up ending do to him trying to "do the right thing" but being consumed by the evil he takes back only to save Phoebe.

That Cole and thus Phoebe's story turns on it's head due to McMahon most likely asking to leave, doesn't help, because it emphasizes the not so feminist tropeness of it.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

Time to be controversial.

While Ariel clearly has a fascination with the land and those who walk it, the way the film plays out, ties her actual motivation to "get off her fin" is to be with the boy. Ariel, who loves to sing, gives it up, not to walk on land or to be free. It's for the boy. The tug-of-war in her heart isn't between the land and the sea. It's between her father and her husband. It plays into the classic sexist trope of a woman leaving home once she finds her husband. It's why five minutes after meeting Eric, they get married. Even in BatB, they spend a good amount of time together. The seasons change, they montage, etc. All Ariel knows about boy, is boy pretty. And that's enough for her to enter a deal where she has to make him fall in love with her.

I do agree these companies speak up the way they've "changed" things, without much thought to what they're actually saying. But I also think that the Little Mermaid as a story, could easily be updated to be more feminist then the original tale. The same applies to my beloved Charmed. Where Cole was a thing.

I remember one of my friends and I were having a silly, fun argument about Disney movies. I can't remember why but I distinctly remember her going IN on The Little Mermaid and her saying "that's the wrong message to send to girls, I never fell for that Part of Your World bulls***!"

I laughed my ass off at that.

No comment on Charmed and the whole problematic Phoebe/Cole relationship. I still blame them for Prue's death, I'm not over it. But I digress.

 

[Lily Adler]

I didn't watch any of the new show, so I can't comment on that. With Cole. For two and half seasons, they basically had Phoebe's entire character revolve around him. She gave up her agency, put her sisters at risk, and even "went evil" for a little while, because boy. While boy went through the, "Being a better man for you" trope that's just... sigh. To cap it all, it only end up ending do to him trying to "do the right thing" but being consumed by the evil he takes back only to save Phoebe.

That Cole and thus Phoebe's story turns on it's head due to McMahon most likely asking to leave, doesn't help, because it emphasizes the not so feminist tropeness of it.

But we got to see the Charmed Ones in skimpy outfits and at one time Alyson Hannigan naked on a horse. Feminism.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I remember one of my friends and I were having a silly, fun argument about Disney movies. I can't remember why but I distinctly remember her going IN on The Little Mermaid and her saying "that's the wrong message to send to girls, I never fell for that Part of Your World bulls***!"

I laughed my ass off at that.

No comment on Charmed and the whole problematic Phoebe/Cole relationship. I still blame them for Prue's death, I'm not over it. But I digress.

I'm a fan of your friend.

The Little Mermaid is near and dear to my heart. It's the first Disney movie I remember, I had a big crush on Ariel (who happened to be modeled after Alyssa Milano. Ya, Charmed reference!) and the music is absolutely brilliant. My favorite soundtrack. But watching back as an adult, it's dicey as hell.

I didn't hate Paige, but she couldn't replace Prue. The original 3 were gold.

 

[flickchick85]

Look, as a little girl growing up, I never found any Disney movies empowering or particularly feminist in any way. I liked The Little Mermaid because dreamy Prince Eric was my first movie crush, the songs were catchy as hell, and Ursula was a whole mood. That's it. That's the appeal for 4-year-old FC. I didn't really find a "Disney Princess" I admired until Mulan. So I have no problem with them trying to make these remakes in a way that sends better messages to the young people who will be growing up watching them. There was CERTAINLY room for improvement in that department in most of these cases.

 

[Drizzle]

Girl's never even seen a human penis. Of course she's curious.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I didn't watch any of the new show, so I can't comment on that. With Cole. For two and half seasons, they basically had Phoebe's entire character revolve around him. She gave up her agency, put her sisters at risk, and even "went evil" for a little while, because boy. While boy went through the, "Being a better man for you" trope that's just... sigh. To cap it all, it only end up ending do to him trying to "do the right thing" but being consumed by the evil he takes back only to save Phoebe.

That Cole and thus Phoebe's story turns on it's head due to McMahon most likely asking to leave, doesn't help, because it emphasizes the not so feminist tropeness of it.

That was (could've) been a good journey for Phoebe. It was a source of contention between her and her sisters.

But we got to see the Charmed Ones in skimpy outfits and at one time Alyson Hannigan naked on a horse. Feminism.

Not Alyson Hannigan! Lmao

Willow aint bout the sexy outfit/naked on a horse life

 

[Lily Adler]

That was (could've) been a good journey for Phoebe. It was a source of contention between her and her sisters.



Not Alyson Hannigan! Lmao

Willow aint bout the sexy outfit/naked on a horse life

Did I use the wrong name and was too lazy to change it?

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

 

[Kon]

I remember one of my friends and I were having a silly, fun argument about Disney movies. I can't remember why but I distinctly remember her going IN on The Little Mermaid and her saying "that's the wrong message to send to girls, I never fell for that Part of Your World bulls***!"

Part of Your World existed before Ariel meets Eric. Ariel was really obsessed about the land before she meets Eric.

In itself, Ariel was a rebel against her father's imposition of the life he wanted for her. That seems pretty feminist for me.

That said, I can see why it's an issue that so much of Ariel's arc revolves around the romance at the end, but I'm pretty sure the remake is going to ruin it up trying to fix it.

 

[Silvermoth]

I think people forget the original story was written by a queer man and the songs in the Disney version were written by a gay man so a story about defying your dad to be with the person you love, in that context, is empowering. But I think it’s ok to adjust it a little bit for modern audiences

 

[Still Wynning]

That little girl is gonna have one hell of a story to tell to her kids and grandkids.

 

[Sawyer]

Bah Gawd, if this is a soundtrack tease…

 

[Silvermoth]

Oh my gosh imagine hearing her in Dolby. So excited, she’s perfect for this

 

[Primal Slayer]

Given that they've restored her connection to Triton....we better be getting her backstory how she went from a mermaid to an octopus.

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

Ursula will be redeemed by the end.

 

[Silvermoth]

Underwater mother

 

[ThePowerCosmic]

I wouldn't be mad if she did end up being redeemed. How many Disney villains have actually been redeemed? I guess Maleficent comes to mind.

 

[Drizzle]

What would be a funny twist is if she changes her mind and turns good but it's already too late because the front of Eric's ship impales her 3 seconds later.