Logan Logan - news & discussion - Part 3

[Stan Lee]

I wonder why it wasn't in the full trailer... It was done a while ago?

I think it was because they wanted to reveal her in a more dramatic scene.

 

[OutOfBoose]

I think it was because they wanted to reveal her in a more dramatic scene.

Makes sense.

Pretty cool poster. But I think making something with him and the girl would be better.

 

[LoganPool]

Makes sense.

Pretty cool poster. But I think making something with him and the girl would be better.

She's reflected in his eye...

 

[X-Maniac]

Hugh has certainly been given ample screen time and has proven time and time again thay he's a great Wolverine. I do however think there's a case to be made that the films have never really done a great job at really high lighting the themes that make Wolverine such an interesting character, the battle between beast and man, chaos and order etc. Origins did a lot of talking about that without ever examining it.
We've always gotten a somewhat watered down version of Wolverine.

That said, he's still clearly gotten the most screen time and attention. I just don't think that time has always been used to the best of its ability.

Pretty much. I don't think there has that much depth given to the character emotionally/spiritually. Which is bizarre given that Singer and the producers and studio all love Jackman and his Wolverine so much.

 

[Weather Witch]

now the showrunner is saying legion does and can connect to film but it has to earn any crossover with films first.

To be fair that is what he has been saying for months. It's just that other people have said different things. t:

 

[Infinity9999x]

Pretty much. I don't think there has that much depth given to the character emotionally/spiritually. Which is bizarre given that Singer and the producers and studio all love Jackman and his Wolverine so much.

Yeah. The Wolverine was the closest we've gotten. Hopefully this film will go even further down that road.

 

[kloker]

I twisted the Empire cover for a more "Wolverine" look (hair, mutton chops, bulkier)

 

[Superhero 101]

Looks better

 

[Herolee10]

Honestly, even after a few days of thinking about it, I don't think I'll ever get over the idea that...

Spoiler

Charles inadvertently wiped out most of the mutants in this world, including the X-Men.

I mean, it pretty much makes every canon film that takes place before the events of this film meaningless

I feel like, there's no point in owning or re-watching DOFP or Apocalypse anymore since we all know on how it's going to end in the long run.

 

[Smilodon]

It's funny, because people said that there's no point in making anymore X-Men films after DOFP came out because we knew that everyone makes it out alive in the end. Whatever happens to the X-Men in Logan remains to be seen, but it's about the journey and not the destination. There's many years, places, characters, planets and dimensions left to explore, and as Logan as shows, the destination can always be moved.

 

[psylockolussus]

Honestly, even after a few days of thinking about it, I don't think I'll ever get over the idea that...

Spoiler

Charles inadvertently wiped out most of the mutants in this world, including the X-Men.

I mean, it pretty much makes every canon film that takes place before the events of this film meaningless

I feel like, there's no point in owning or re-watching DOFP or Apocalypse anymore since we all know on how it's going to end in the long run.

IMO, its stupid that they let happen. They already witnessed how Dofp undermined Apocalypse's stakes and this one, would even further undermine the upcoming X-Men films that are set in the PAST.

Silly Fox.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Honestly, even after a few days of thinking about it, I don't think I'll ever get over the idea that...

Spoiler

Charles inadvertently wiped out most of the mutants in this world, including the X-Men.

I mean, it pretty much makes every canon film that takes place before the events of this film meaningless

I feel like, there's no point in owning or re-watching DOFP or Apocalypse anymore since we all know on how it's going to end in the long run.

Well I guess you can quit the franchise then.

 

[LoganPool]

I feel like, there's no point in owning or re-watching DOFP or Apocalypse anymore since we all know on how it's going to end in the long run.

In my opinion, this couldn't be further from the truth. Just as DOFP wiped out the events of the original trilogy, Deadpool 2 with Cable will probably wipe out the events of Logan. As long as time travel is possible, nothing will ever be set in stone.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Cable is really the big factor everyone seems to forget when they bemoan the doom and gloom of this film. The guy is pretty much synonymous with time travel and trying to prevent apocalyptic and dystopian futures, and he's appearing in a movie that's going to be at least in part written by Ryan Reynolds, who has actually seen footage of Logan and knows the plot.

 

[fobi]

Honestly, even after a few days of thinking about it, I don't think I'll ever get over the idea that...

Spoiler

Charles inadvertently wiped out most of the mutants in this world, including the X-Men.

I mean, it pretty much makes every canon film that takes place before the events of this film meaningless

I feel like, there's no point in owning or re-watching DOFP or Apocalypse anymore since we all know on how it's going to end in the long run.

I agree, I don't like that at all. Hopefully there's more to the story and maybe that didn't exactly happen.

Spoiler

Of course, time travel can always change that outcome I guess.

 

[marvelrobbins]

based on what we heard on plot i think it's very likely cable in films starting with deadpool 2 will negate logan just like DOFP erased original trilogy and first 2 wolverine films.

 

[BoredGuy]

Yeah again, they should just say Cable's been time-hopping and changing stuff throughout all of the films, would at least partly explain the wonkiness of this continuity

CABLE: "Think Charles... when did you meet Erik?... Logan? How long has Jubilee been a teenager? What happened after Liberty Island?? You know these events aren't lining up right in your mind. That's because I've been there, protecting mutantkind... I've stopped Apocalypse more times than you can count."

 

[BlueLanternKal]

How about just watching DOFP because it's a good movie? Do the events of Logan stop DOFP from being a good movie? No? Thought so.

 

[LoganPool]

How about just watching DOFP because it's a good movie? Do the events of Logan stop DOFP from being a good movie? No? Thought so.

 

[marvelrobbins]

How about just watching DOFP because it's a good movie? Do the events of Logan stop DOFP from being a good movie? No? Thought so.

what others are forgetting apocalypse isn't susposed to lineup with original trilogy.

logan won't negate DOFP at all.

cable is likely reason fox and producers signed off on logan.This is mangold's interpetion of old man logan to end jackman's run as wolverine.of course it's possable jackman pops up in deadpool 2 or future film with deadpool.

DOFP erases X-men and X2 from timeline doesn't elimate their greatness.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

what others are forgetting apocalypse isn't susposed to lineup with original trilogy.

Good job on keep changing that narrative

 

[Smilodon]

Cable is really the big factor everyone seems to forget when they bemoan the doom and gloom of this film. The guy is pretty much synonymous with time travel and trying to prevent apocalyptic and dystopian futures, and he's appearing in a movie that's going to be at least in part written by Ryan Reynolds, who has actually seen footage of Logan and knows the plot.

Exactly this. Even if Logan didn't somehow wipe out mutants or whatever happened in the film, Cable is still coming back from somewhere for some reason. If Logan still had mutants flourishing, Ryan and co. would've created some other dystopian future that Cable would've had to time travel back from instead - and certainly if we didn't get the time-traveling with the pouch wearing and metal armed-ness of the mutant there would've been complaints. The end for these characters is never truly set.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

Enjoying the movies as standalones is all fine and well. But it hurts the movie when it doesn't line up with what came before.

That's what you sign up for when you come to write/direct in a franchise of films. You have to play in the sandbox that was there before. When you don't, it shows one of two things: pure laziness, or pure hubris.

 

[Legion]

It's funny, because people said that there's no point in making anymore X-Men films after DOFP came out because we knew that everyone makes it out alive in the end. Whatever happens to the X-Men in Logan remains to be seen, but it's about the journey and not the destination. There's many years, places, characters, planets and dimensions left to explore, and as Logan as shows, the destination can always be moved.

The X-Men have always had bleak futures in the comics and animated series. That's part of their struggle.

In the animated series version DoFP, Bishop returns to the future and we see Wolverine's adamantium skeleton floating in a tank. So Wolverine (and the X-Men) still die even though they stopped the assassination of Senator Kelly. We see Wolverine's skeleton again in season 2 and never see a "good" future created from Bishop's efforts.

The fact that my heroes would eventually die never hindered my enjoyment of the series. I just hoped that somehow things would work out.

I see Logan as showing that there is still a struggle ahead. With DoFP they merely delayed what is inevitable. The heroes will still need to work hard to see the dream come true and there may be another time travel story in the cards.

 

[2kt09]

The X-Men have always had bleak futures in the comics and animated series. That's part of their struggle.

In the animated series version DoFP, Bishop returns to the future and we see Wolverine's adamantium skeleton floating in a tank. So Wolverine (and the X-Men) still die even though they stopped the assassination of Senator Kelly. We see Wolverine's skeleton again in season 2 and never see a "good" future created from Bishop's efforts.

The fact that my heroes would eventually die never hindered my enjoyment of the series. I just hoped that somehow things would work out.

I see Logan as showing that there is still a struggle ahead. With DoFP they merely delayed what is inevitable. The heroes will still need to work hard to see the dream come true and there may be another time travel story in the cards.

Was it you that wanted more movies set in the future?
I remember agreeing with that sentiment.