Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - - - - - Part 14

[ModernClarkKent]

It lost 61 theatres, which perhaps is foolish given how it's doing fairly well in the "dollar theatres."

 

[STARMAN]

After the first couple of weeks, the box office is all about theater counts. Nothing else.

 

[Princess Denise]

Has MOS been pulled from all foreign markets? It is odd that the foreign total has not been updated for about two weeks.

 

[STARMAN]

I just don't think there's much to update oversees until Japan opens August 30th. That will be the last haul.

 

[kalelvis]

Some of the individual countries have been updated to August 11th but the Foreign total hasnt been updated for quite a while. Chances are that it is now over 360 mil overseas but even the individual countries amounts don't add up correctly to really know how much higher it really is. The assumption that we won't really see those numbers accurately related until Japan opens is pretty accurate.

 

[Princess Denise]

Does anyone know what to realistically expect from Japan? I know TASM made almost 40M, but that was a summer release.

 

[STARMAN]

ASM did terrific in Japan. I believe TDKR made 24 mill and Iron Man 3 made 25 mill.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

8Man of Steel$512,308-32%365-61$1,404$289,633,84910Warner Bros.9Monsters University$461,394-33%281-124$1,642$261,134,9989Disney10World War Z$437,376-33%307-198$1,425$198,303,5099Paramount

MOS could be at $290 million by Friday. That was quite a good hold, I didn't think it would make that much. Nice.

 

[X Knight]

and $290m is nothing to scoff at, regardless of what some may say.......

 

[sf2]

Any news on the rerelease on imax?

 

[ConnorKon-El]

It's doing good in dollar theaters wow. I wondered where the increases had been coming from.

 

[Micromind]

Worldwide total is almost at 650 mil $ right now, I expect Japan to add at least another 15 mil to worldwide collections.

So final worldwide figure could reach to 665 to 670 mil $. I would say that's a great number.

 

[JOE]

If the rumors are true with Bale's 50M offer for MOS 2, the hype for that movie would be astronomical.

 

[webknight18]

That's not true, both Nolan and Snyder intended Man of Steel to be standalone (apart from Zack's nod to Chris with WE satellite).

If that's true then why did Snyder say that other superheroes did exist in the MOS universe? I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about movie posters. If you think WB did not have any plans for expanding the DC universe with MOS then you are just kidding yourself.

They have been hoping for a Superman/Batman pairing for a long long time. They definitely had plans for a DC universe with MOS.

 

[webknight18]

I don't think you have followed the history of MOS. The main reason they were making MOS was because the law suit that if they failed to make one by 2013, they might lose the right of superman for movie. WB never have any solid plan for DC universe. If there was any, it was to be by GL to kick off.

The lawsuit wasn't the reason they were making MOS. If WB had lost the lawsuit they would have had to share the profits, which would have made them hesitant to make MOS, if anything. It's not like the deal between Marvel and other studios where if the studios do not start a movie by a certain date the rights revert back to Marvel.

DC and WB would still have rights. It just wouldn't be that profitable for them. WB always had plans for a DC universe, whether it was with Green Lantern or with MOS. Unfortunately for them GL flopped, so they had their hopes on MOS. And now that MOS is a hit they are going forward with their plan.

 

[Princess Denise]

and $290m is nothing to scoff at, regardless of what some may say.......

Right. MOS did great and will be one of the top moneymakers of the year. Anyone who tries to paint that as a failure or even a disappointment is kidding themselves. The problem is that WB had such sky high expectations for MOS. They were probably realistically hoping for something in the 800M WW range. So WB is now probably thinking that MOS did great and will get a sequel, but not great enough that they feel comfortable putting that sequel out in the same year as potential blockbusters such as Avengers II and Star Wars so they felt MOS needed a little help in the form of Batman.

 

[JKKS085]

If that's true then why did Snyder say that other superheroes did exist in the MOS universe? I'm pretty sure he wasn't talking about movie posters. If you think WB did not have any plans for expanding the DC universe with MOS then you are just kidding yourself.

They have been hoping for a Superman/Batman pairing for a long long time. They definitely had plans for a DC universe with MOS.

WB had plans for a standalone JL film that would've been developed alongside a self contained MoS trilogy (wich was what Snyder, Goyer and Nolan wanted for the character). That was the original plan before Beal's script got tanked.

Then Goyer was brought in to write a new JL treatment in wich MoS' would be intended as the starting point of the DC Cinematic Universe. But that was not before mid april 2013 according to Robinov's statement. So I wouldn't say WB had a plan to expand the DC Universe, they had erratic plans at best and most of them were ditched along the way.

And anyone thinking that the travesty of a sequel they are giving to MoS was always part of the plan because of a logo slapped on a satellite in post-prod is kidding him/herself. This is nothing but a desperate/last minute stunt to catch up with the competition because they don't deem their solo franchises (rightfully or not) up to the task.

 

[JangoNate]

If the rumors are true with Bale's 50M offer for MOS 2, the hype for that movie would be astronomical.

The rumors are not true, though
(one source: http://movies.cosmicbooknews.com/co...ered-50-million-batman-no-100-million-hugh-ja)

I wonder then, how the general audience will react to a new Bruce.

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

If the rumors are true with Bale's 50M offer for MOS 2, the hype for that movie wohuld be astronomical.

I agree. Having Batman in MOS 2 will translate into great OW B.O. But Bale coming back would send the B.O. Into the stratosphere. If they pay him $50 million it'll be money well spent in my estimation, plus the Filmmakers get an added bonus in that they won't have to spend a single minute on Batman's origin. Btw I know this rumor was shot down a few weeks ago, but I still wouldn't rule out something like this happening.

 

[sf2]

Right. MOS did great and will be one of the top moneymakers of the year. Anyone who tries to paint that as a failure or even a disappointment is kidding themselves. The problem is that WB had such sky high expectations for MOS. They were probably realistically hoping for something in the 800M WW range. So WB is now probably thinking that MOS did great and will get a sequel, but not great enough that they feel comfortable putting that sequel out in the same year as potential blockbusters such as Avengers II and Star Wars so they felt MOS needed a little help in the form of Batman.

Sound like a dejavu. SR was one of the top10 moneymakers in 2006.and it did 100m less than WB expectation too.

And I dislike that. If it did great, people would say it's because they putting in batman; if it did bad, it's because it's a superman film.

 

[sf2]

I agree. Having Batman in MOS 2 will translate into great OW B.O. But Bale coming back would send the B.O. Into the stratosphere. If they pay him $50 million it'll be money well spent in my estimation, plus the Filmmakers get an added bonus in that they won't have to spend a single minute on Batman's origin. Btw I know this rumor was shot down a few weeks ago, but I still wouldn't rule out something like this happening.

Really? U really think Bale has such a stratosphere effect?
Johnny Depp n the same team of POTC couldn't help Lone Ranger... u know... n it's a standard popcorn blockbuster movie. Nothing too bad.

 

[Princess Denise]

Sound like a dejavu. SR was one of the top10 moneymakers in 2006.and it did 100m less than WB expectation too.

And I dislike that. If it did great, people would say it's because they putting in batman; if it did bad, it's because it's a superman film.

I think MOS did far better (SR only made 391M WW) and was better received by audiences than SR. I don't think we are in the same boat here. We are getting the principal cast back with the same production team for a continuation of the series. Most films that make 650M+ are considered a phenomenal hit but WB expected more. Maybe their expectations were not realistic considering MOS is a reboot but it is what it is. WB wants to compete with Marvel and Star Wars so they are bringing in Batman. I just hope that it is mostly a Superman movie with some Batman at the end. I would hate for it to be 50/50 or even for Superman to play second fiddle

 

[Stephen K. Hone]

Really? U really think Bale has such a stratosphere effect?
Johnny Depp n the same team of POTC couldn't help Lone Ranger... u know... n it's a standard popcorn blockbuster movie. Nothing too bad.

Yes

 

[LostSon88]

Really? U really think Bale has such a stratosphere effect?
Johnny Depp n the same team of POTC couldn't help Lone Ranger... u know... n it's a standard popcorn blockbuster movie. Nothing too bad.

That's not exactly the same context because Bale would be playing Batman again.

A more accurate comparison would be when Depp returned for Pirates 4 to play Capt. Jack with pretty much a whole new cast…and that made a billion dollars. In fact, it made more than Pirates 3.

 

[sf2]

That's not exactly the same context because Bale would be playing Batman again.

A more accurate comparison would be when Depp returned for Pirates 4 to play Capt. Jack with pretty much a whole new cast…and that made a billion dollars. In fact, it made more than Pirates 3.

You might have the point. But again it might also because the movie has established itself as the yearly must see movie. Not so much from the cast and the quality of the film. P4 is just a typical popcorn blockbuster. Exactly like lone ranger.

Same thing to MU n DM2. In term of animation, surprisingly, Turbo is a much better film than the two movies. But MU n DM2 make much much more than Turbo because they have established themselves.