Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 8

[chiefchirpa]

The sad thing is that'll probably drop pretty hard once RDJ hangs up the helmet. I hope he continues to be a successful character, but nobody knew him before RDJ's incarnation made him a household name, so he's a Jack Sparrow-type to the general audience. The actor is the character. It will be surprising if the repulsor blast strikes twice.

IM series had a great impressions to kids and teens; these would-be grown ups will welcome the reboot wholeheartedly.

 

[kalhawj]

I think the edgier, more brutal, but yet, relatable characters came along like (the X-Men) and guys like Frank Miller with Batman who wrote this corny and campy character as a true Dark Knight with grit, agony and despair.

Once the early 90's folk started to transition into that type of anti-hero type thing, Superman was left in the balance as a kooky Boy Scout who got under peoples skin by being too powerful and too good to even care about once you had characters on the other side of the coin who had problems and had tendencies to use their weakness as a strength other than the other way around.

Once the Death of Superman arc followed by the instant Return and lousy writing, the character suffered through love stories like the Lois and Clark television show and writers giving him a voice that spoke in a cheesy way. There was no alternative and no depth to the character, just a hero in blue tights doing things as perfect as possible and stuck in a Chrisopher Reeve world.

The world was ready for something different and Singer's 2006 Superman Returns kind of was the last straw to the Supes character stuck in mud. By the time Returns came out, we had the evolution of Spider-Man, the X-Men movies and Batman Begins going into a whole new path.

Now, with TDK trilogy coming to a close, people are kind of opening themselves up to teammup, campier movies with action sprinkled in when Superman is making up ground to become edgier so-to-speak, which now, is basically becoming an oversatured market.

It's really hard to put a finger on. Superman for so long was treated as this outdated, pulp-cultural icon that the higher-ups refused to pay most attention to. If new things were tried, eventually, the character would fizzle right back into a Donner-verse setting and the same 'ole stories would be told weekly and monthly.

MOS is an effort that is trying to revolutionize the character into modern times, which I love. Problem is, the creator's over the last few decades neglected fresh starts and creative ways to push the character forward, but instead, kept going back to what seemed comfortable and that's what is STILL hurting the Superman character today.

This is why I'm so glad MOS took the different path and not revive the old Donnars Superman again. They finally broke the chain and move on. If we kept doing that Superman is done for good. Because MOS had balls and show us a side of Superman we have yet to see and explore to its full potential. Supermans future is now looking good again. I'm just glad majority of the fans and GA is embracing this new Superman. I have a feeling Henry will take Clark/Superman to a whole new level in the sequel.

 

[Tra-El]

This is why I'm so glad MOS took the different path and not revive the old Donnars Superman again. They finally broke the chain and move on. If we kept doing that Superman is done for good. Because MOS had balls and show us a side of Superman we have yet to see and explore to its full potential. Supermans future is now looking good again. I'm just glad majority of the fans and GA is embracing this new Superman. I have a feeling Henry will take Clark/Superman to a whole new level in the sequel.

Couldn't agree more. I've been bashing my head against the wall for years way before MOS and claimed we need a new Superman to be more brash and a different identity in creativity. I said it before and will say it again, I applaud the absolute **** out of Goyer and Snyder for doing what most pansy writers out there that were afraid to do all these years: GIVE US A BALLSY SUPERMAN! Can't wait until the whole new level for a sequel as well. Cavill couldn't be more perfect in my eyes.

 

[sf2]

Couldn't agree more. I've been bashing my head against the wall for years way before MOS and claimed we need a new Superman to be more brash and a different identity in creativity. I said it before and will say it again, I applaud the absolute **** out of Goyer and Snyder for doing what most pansy writers out there that were afraid to do all these years: GIVE US A BALLSY SUPERMAN! Can't wait until the whole new level for a sequel as well. Cavill couldn't be more perfect in my eyes.

you are right indeed. i was terribly wrong. and so glad that i was proven wrong.

 

[Bruce Malone]

The sad thing is that'll probably drop pretty hard once RDJ hangs up the helmet. I hope he continues to be a successful character, but nobody knew him before RDJ's incarnation made him a household name, so he's a Jack Sparrow-type to the general audience. The actor is the character. It will be surprising if the repulsor blast strikes twice.

This is a great point and one i've thought about for a while. Iron Man is to RDJ as Jack Sparrow is to Depp, as the terminator is to Arnie as John Mcclaine is to willis.

I couldn't picture and i think a lot of other people couldn't picture as well anyone but those specific actors playing those characters.

I'm sure IM will exist on screen after rdj but how successful i don't really know?

 

[kalhawj]

Couldn't agree more. I've been bashing my head against the wall for years way before MOS and claimed we need a new Superman to be more brash and a different identity in creativity. I said it before and will say it again, I applaud the absolute **** out of Goyer and Snyder for doing what most pansy writers out there that were afraid to do all these years: GIVE US A BALLSY SUPERMAN! Can't wait until the whole new level for a sequel as well. Cavill couldn't be more perfect in my eyes.

Goyer and Zack are getting some hate from a small number fans who are holding onto the past Superman and hating on them for not sticking to their Superman. Glad those fans arent making MOS. anyway, those two in my eye save superman. They gave us a new look at our hero and made them cool and relevant again. One that we can actually relate too and feel his pain and joy. For all the haters Zack and Goyer aren't going anywhere. Bring on MOS 2.

 

[Showtime]

I think I need to just close this thread, for some reason despite some really good debate and really ridiculous debate, it can't stay on track.

 

[Liam_H]

Awww, man. There should be a rule if you don't mention numbers in your post, you can't.

 

[Showtime]

Ok, I don't get the Bale bashing, but Cavill's done a great job selling this movie. I do agree that it never hurts to hype up a villain though. Lex can fetch some hype, but it'll take a physical villain to get the audiences attention since that's what it takes to beat Superman. It's like promoting fight. You don't just talk about the favorite, do you?

PS: I'll be happy with this finishing #2 on the year in the box office. That solidifies that WB made the right decision with Snyder/Cavill.

Domestically? It's not finishing #2 on the year.

 

[Tra-El]

Aw man, I love this thread. It's been HAWT over the past few weeks and major discussion has takin' place. It's tough to keep it to just numbers when we are basically waiting and waiting. Easy to defiantly get off-topic with numbers because some people claim it's the numbers that are hurting MOS and what hurts MOS (to some people) is the issues people have with it and the character. I guess it can go hand in hand....

 

[Showtime]

Box office.

 

[Liam_H]

MU and DM2 have a good chance of passing it. The former might not because the latter will cut its legs a bit. HG2 will definitely pass it.

 

[kalhawj]

Hoping Wednesday number is 4-5 million. Crowing finger...

 

[Liam_H]

Most likely around $3.9-4.4M

 

[Poni_Boy]

Domestically? It's not finishing #2 on the year.

As far as franchises go (domestically) I'd say it'll end up #1 Iron Man 3, #2 Catching Fire, #3 The Hobbit 2, #4 Despicable Me 2, #5 Man of Steel #6 Thor The Dark World #7 Monsters University #8 Fast & Furious 6

Feels like I'm missing one of them though

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Just got back from my 4th screening. On my way back, something dawned on me. This is the first and only time I've witnessed audiences clapping at the end of a film in all 4 showings I've been to. People are really enjoying this film.

 

[Showtime]

As far as franchises go (domestically) I'd say it'll end up #1 Iron Man 3, #2 Catching Fire, #3 The Hobbit 2, #4 Despicable Me 2, #5 Man of Steel #6 Thor The Dark World #7 Monsters University #8 Fast & Furious 6

Feels like I'm missing one of them though

That sounds about right to me, trying to fill in the blanks if you missed anything

 

[Liam_H]

I would switch DM2 and TH2 and maybe MU with Thor 2. Definitely the former.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I do hope Thor: The Dark World does well. I loved the first one despite not being a fan of the character in the comics.

 

[Cantis1]

That list doesn't sound too bad for the movie though. I mean, that makes it the #1 non sequel movie up there, right? All of those other movies listed are sequels. Isn't that pretty darn good?

I love coming to this thread, though it stresses me out (because I seriously want a sequel and for this movie to be a hit!). But I am confused by all of the negative posts that at this point, I really don't know what would be considered a good box office total vs a great box office total vs "OMG, this movie is a total failure" box office total. Can anyone tell me what a rationally good box office total would be for this movie? Thanks!

 

[kalhawj]

Just got back from my 4th screening. On my way back, something dawned on me. This is the first and only time I've witnessed audiences clapping at the end of a film in all 4 showings I've been to. People are really enjoying this film.

Awesome news... How's full was the theater? To get an idea how MOS wi do for Wednesday.

 

[Marvin]

Fox usually has a huge box office animated film by the name of ice age somewhere in there.
I'm assuming DMe2 is fox? If so, those guys might just take over the animated game if they could only get one more franchise going.

 

[Morcego]

That list doesn't sound too bad for the movie though. I mean, that makes it the #1 non sequel movie up there, right? All of those other movies listed are sequels. Isn't that pretty darn good?

I love coming to this thread, though it stresses me out (because I seriously want a sequel and for this movie to be a hit!). But I am confused by all of the negative posts that at this point, I really don't know what would be considered a good box office total vs a great box office total vs "OMG, this movie is a total failure" box office total. Can anyone tell me what a rationally good box office total would be for this movie? Thanks!

Something between 650 -700M, which is where it'll probably end up, is good BO for this movie.

 

[Liam_H]

That list doesn't sound too bad for the movie though. I mean, that makes it the #1 non sequel movie up there, right? All of those other movies listed are sequels. Isn't that pretty darn good?

I love coming to this thread, though it stresses me out (because I seriously want a sequel and for this movie to be a hit!). But I am confused by all of the negative posts that at this point, I really don't know what would be considered a good box office total vs a great box office total vs "OMG, this movie is a total failure" box office total. Can anyone tell me what a rationally good box office total would be for this movie? Thanks!

We're not talking only about box office total, but the run of it. At least I am. I would consider $250-260M a success. So anything higher is gravy in my book.

But how it gets to whatever total it finishes at is also important. A higher opening weekend multiplier is always more desirable than a lower one. Because the former is better news for any potential sequel.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Awesome news... How's full was the theater? To get an idea how MOS wi do for Wednesday.

More than half-full. All the good seats in the back and middle sections were taken.