Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread - Part 8

[Tobias]

Tobias and the rest of those that come on MOS forum to doom it or complaint about it can just call or send your complaints to WB... We don't need your complaints in here... You aren't going to change anyone's view about MOS in here... GA love it and that's a fact...

Actually I am writing WB about the film. Trying to get the correct address of the new head of WB then the letter, snail mail, will be off.

 

[dante2012]

I enjoyed the movie tobias. Stop being always negative in every post man! If you hate it so much just leave the forum.

 

[ray243]

People who dislike this movie are hellbent on twisting things to make it look like MOS is not a hit. Is it a blockbuster? No. Has it been successfully relaunched? Yes. This movie will be making close to $700M WW and there are people claiming it is not a hit. It's mind boggling to me. Snyder and Goyer are not going anywhere, so for those wishing that, keep dreaming.

Given there seems to be a 50-50 divide among the fanbase, this meant a sizeable amount of people who are not going to see it on the opening week at the very least.

Are you just going to pretend the people who watched MoS and disliked it never existed?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Actually I am writing WB about the film. Trying to get the correct address of the new head of WB then the letter, snail mail, will be off.

Great. But this forum does have a complaint thread for this movie so feel free to complain to your heart's content in there. I love this movie but I'm not posting in every other message in this thread how much I loved it and what they got right with it.

 

[blumatic]

The movie was good. And the film had a lot of good moments and good lessons. But in reading the critics and asking my friend who is a comic fanatic about MOS, he said the film could have used some humor. He said humor is like a pit stop for these long movies and it gives the mind a break and lightens up your spirit.

They could have written something in the film to brighten things up. There wasn't much "joy" in the film. And when the movie was over there wasn't much triumph.

In the TDK trilogy there was triumph to offset the brooding feel. In TDK not much triumph but really great dialogue on philosophy and you learned a few things.

MOS had some great things going for itself but the lack of humor with or young Clark. Maybe show a baby Clark creating havoc as a baby and in a funny way the parents trying to deal with it. Gotta give the audience something to chew on.

But the film is not a fail.

 

[FlawlessVictory]

Given there seems to be a 50-50 divide among the fanbase, this meant a sizeable amount of people who are not going to see it on the opening week at the very least.

Are you just going to pretend the people who watched MoS and disliked it never existed?

Of course there are people who dislike it, but there will be no rush to change the creative team when the movie will gross near $700 mil WW and has the audience approval it does on IMDB, Metacritic and RT.

 

[Skrilla31]

We are "haters" to many but in truth we are lovers of Big Blue who are waiting that great movie. I want to have the same experience in a Superman movie my Dad did in 1978. The audience totally into - laughing, crying, standing up and shouting.

Look no further than my post history. I had never been more excited for a movie in my life. Even in the days leading up to the release and all the bad reviews were coming out, I was standing firm in my resolve. I was DEFENDING and PRAISING Snyder. I was so, so hoping the critics had gotten this one wrong. But then I saw the movie. I couldn't lie to myself. I thought it was awful and I felt ashamed for defending Snyder so feverishly in the days leading up.

But the fact is we'll always have the original film. As much as I'd love for someone to finally take the baton from Donner and Reeves, it's not like that movie is going anywhere. That movie is always gonna be there. And for my money it's still probably the greatest superhero movie ever made.

 

[Marvin]

Given there seems to be a 50-50 divide among the fanbase, this meant a sizeable amount of people who are not going to see it on the opening week at the very least.

Are you just going to pretend the people who watched MoS and disliked it never existed?

What on earth makes you say that?

 

[FlawlessVictory]

What on earth makes you say that?

Meh, 50-50 split fanbase, movie HAS to gross $300 mil domestic to generate a sequel, just random numbers people like to bring up without sourcing it. Par for the course around here for people who dislike the film.

 

[kalhawj]

Given there seems to be a 50-50 divide among the fanbase, this meant a sizeable amount of people who are not going to see it on the opening week at the very least.

Are you just going to pretend the people who watched MoS and disliked it never existed?

I would say majority of Superman fans like MOS 90/10 and not 50/50. Just go to the MOS rating post. Now if you are referring to the GA... it's not divided... 80% of the GA love this movie... I'm basing my numbers of review scores from GA... so I don't know where you guys are getting the 50/50 mix.... Plus CC sore is A-... Which mains GA loves this movie... GA makes the money not fanboy...

 

[Monicabbm]

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice 42s
MAN OF STEEL powered up $5.2M on Tuesday. W/ $219M total, it passed STAR TREK: ID as the #4 top-grossing movie of 2013.

 

[Tony Stark]

Goyer has written and directed some truly awful films. His filmography is extremely bipolar.

The only film of his I enjoy on any level is 300, and even that isn't that great of a movie. The story is the most powerful thing and that, and even the visuals are more thanks to Frank Miller. Snyder did a good job of interpreting Miller's art work for the big screen.

All of his other film are pretty much crap. I think he was hired because he's a company yes man. The studio wanted big Transformers style action, and that's what he delivered, and all the bad stuff about Transformers with it.

 

[kguillou]

Soo.....does anyone have the latest international numbers?

 

[blumatic]

Given there seems to be a 50-50 divide among the fanbase, this meant a sizeable amount of people who are not going to see it on the opening week at the very least.

Are you just going to pretend the people who watched MoS and disliked it never existed?

The divide to me is unique. I don't it's t
50% love 50% hate. I think the dominant of the crowd is like it but don't love it. Its a decent to good film to most but not great. To many, the film is not special. And if it's not special then it's disappointing.

Film has mostly "positive" feedback. But the positive is not love, it's more like but not love.

 

[kalhawj]

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice 42s
MAN OF STEEL powered up $5.2M on Tuesday. W/ $219M total, it passed STAR TREK: ID as the #4 top-grossing movie of 2013.

Awesome....

 

[Tony Stark]

Agree FlawlessVictory people are acting like this is bombing like green lantern!

MOS is doing better then i thought and is gonna hit 700 mill worldwide!

I'm looking forward to the sequel!

It's not bombing, but the WOM is mixed at best.

 

[Sup3rman81]

You do realize Superman is held to a different standard right? That's part of what makes him Superman. And in my post I stated that the issue was how Superman killed him, the brutal manner. Had he punched him into the sun no one would blink an eye.

The poster who brought up Agent Coulson being killed, the villain did that, not a hero. Spider-Man didn't kill Goblin with his own hands. And the terrorists being killed by Iron Man, you don't actually see them being killed on camera, and Iron Man didn't kill them with his bare hands. That's the difference, not that people were killed but doing it directly with one's hands is viewed much more brutal. And to have Superman do that of all people is very shocking.

Like I said earlier this is a different Superman. Not the boy scout version. So you cant compare his standards to the those of previous versions

 

[Tra-El]

Just re-name the thread "Tobias thinks Man of Steel is as bad as Catwoman" and let it fly, lmao. It's a pity that this movie is being way overblown in this forum. Over-exaggeration is an understatement. But that's what you get in fanboy communities.

It is nowhere NEAR as gloom as some are making it out to be and is performing up to the standards (and then some) for a reboot. If these numbers were for the anticipated sequel to kick off the JL franchise, then I'd understand. MOS is the first crack to the Superman franchise and by all means, is NOT perfect but it's an origin story that NEEDED to be told in this style and direction. It's everything I've wanted it to be and many people agree. The fanbase's aren't even close to be as divided as you think and audiences loved it.

I'll be going to see this for a 6th time and I know MANY of people who are seeing it more than twice so hopefully, as I said 1,0000 posts back, that the people who saw WWZ (same audience) will go back and see MOS over 4th of July weekend. Other than that, the numbers will even itself out and be great for a sequel to be lifted and that will force the team to tighten it up and correct the mistakes but by NO means is it as bad as some people in here are making it out to be. No way.

 

[ray243]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/scottme...-man-of-steel-2-survive-the-tomb-raider-trap/

This article mentioned something known as a the Tomb raider trap. Basically, history has shown if the first film is a mixed success( critically wise), box office returns for the second film will be much lower.

There are films that buck the trend of course, such as Star Trek: TWOK, but those are rare exception.

Even Superman Returns made a profit, but studios decides to opt for a reboot.

 

[Tra-El]

Exhibitor Relations ‏@ERCboxoffice 42s
MAN OF STEEL powered up $5.2M on Tuesday. W/ $219M total, it passed STAR TREK: ID as the #4 top-grossing movie of 2013.

5.2M? NICE! That's a step in the right direction. Myself, I think it's going to perform well 4th of July weekend and hold a steady, positive pace.

 

[Ita-KalEl]

Agree FlawlessVictory people are acting like this is bombing like green lantern!

MOS is doing better then i thought and is gonna hit 700 mill worldwide!

I'm looking forward to the sequel!

It happened the same thing the last year with TDKR. There are a platoon of lamers that like to bash dc properties.
Don't worry. Keep calm and enjoy the show . I don't want to discuss anymore. It is useless. I did the same thing the last year.
It will be very funny to see MOS being considered one of the most successful movies of the summer and Thor bombing.

 

[Tobias]

Look no further than my post history. I had never been more excited for a movie in my life. Even in the days leading up to the release and all the bad reviews were coming out, I was standing firm in my resolve. I was DEFENDING and PRAISING Snyder. I was so, so hoping the critics had gotten this one wrong. But then I saw the movie. I couldn't lie to myself. I thought it was awful and I felt ashamed for defending Snyder so feverishly in the days leading up.

But the fact is we'll always have the original film. As much as I'd love for someone to finally take the baton from Donner and Reeves, it's not like that movie is going anywhere. That movie is always gonna be there. And for my money it's still probably the greatest superhero movie ever made.

It's like your first date. Magic and better than all that follow.

STM can't be repeated. Reeve can't be topped. STM was a first and firsts are always unique.

That said, follow-up versions can approach at least the magic of the first. Neither SR nor MOS did. For that matter think of S4 - a money looser and a poor film.

I am not asking perfection. I give MOS a 7.9. SR a 7.4. I want a Superman film I can give a 9.1. Not perfection but still great.

I am worried about how Snyder is directing Henry. One-dimensional. Where is that Superman charm and those great lines. Henry did not impress me as Superman but I know the reason. Snyder.

Totally missing too was that Clark/Lois magic. And that is key.

We can complain till the cows come home but the bottom line is WB best address these issues that are repeated across many media and individually if they want MOS2 to be a blockbuster and get that sequel bump TDK and other films have.

 

[blumatic]

The only film of his I enjoy on any level is 300, and even that isn't that great of a movie. The story is the most powerful thing and that, and even the visuals are more thanks to Frank Miller. Snyder did a good job of interpreting Miller's art work for the big screen.

All of his other film are pretty much crap. I think he was hired because he's a company yes man. The studio wanted big Transformers style action, and that's what he delivered, and all the bad stuff about Transformers with it.

Oh my goodness it's not as bad as Transformers. Its not bad at all. Its flawed. And they weren't looking for Transformers. The wanted really good action to satisfy the crowd that hated Superman Returns.

I would like Snyder back. The film was visually stunning. I just want a little less action and more interesting dialogue. Not saying the dialogue was bad, it on par with most origins. I just want more.

 

[Tony Stark]

Man oh man, the industry has sure changed a lot even during a 10-15 year span. It will be interesting to see where things are in 15 years. Sub-2.0 multipliers will be the norm for big openers.

I do think it's becoming more common, and you're seeing it in novel adaptations like Twilight, Hunger Games, the Potter films, and such. But I think it's rolling over into other franchises as well.

It's not all that surprising. A lot of pent up fan anticipation that wanes quickly.

For a CBM we expect 50-60% drop off after the first week, only Spider-man 1 did not follow that mold, and that was a very special circumstance. I think there was even more anticipation for a film like that when the nation was recovering from 9-11 and such.

 

[MANOFSTEELtrilogy]

"Warner is already in development on a sequel to "Man of Steel" and is expected to fast track that for release as soon as 2014, said knowledgeable people close to the studio," the WSJ reports. "In addition, it has long been developing a 'Justice League' team-up movie featuring characters such as the Flash and Wonder Woman that could come out as soon as 2015."

Does this mean June/July 2014? I'm guessing it does, because that's the months of blockbusters.