Man of Steel Box Office Prediction Thread

[snyderrocks]

What boycott?

the boycott was regarding the fact that indris elba was cast to play the Norse god Heimdall if sean bean would have been cast no boycott would have took place .

 

[mclay18]

No kryptonite in sight this time.t:

Plus, MOS has over two weeks to itself. It wasn't like SR where it only had a week and two days to rack up the money.

And The Lone Ranger doesn't feel like a sure thing like the POTC franchise is.

 

[Marvin]

After Batman& Robin, there was an 8 year break.
After BB there was a three year break to create a sequel,Big difference.

MoS is coming out 7 years after a lame superman movie. I'm sure it's box office will be hurt in a way that it wouldn't had Returns not existed. However, my opinion remains that Begins could have been a much bigger money maker than it was had it been more cinematic. Point in case, does anyone in the general audience really think the Scarecrow was as exciting as the joker(especially in the trailers)? Does anyone actually think batman driving away from a few cops while yelling at a sleeping Katie Holmes really measure up to him chasing the Joker chasing Harvey Dent, in a car that explodes into a motorcycle chase scene which ends up with bats on his back in the middle of the streets and joker dancing...

Begins had alot going against it but, alot of that movie's decisions didn't really help it create the fever at the box office other films have.
I'd say the same thing about Cap/Thor/IHulk vs Ironman 1.

Again, I think Snyder has the vision to take Goyers script and deliver on this issue in a big way. When I read Goyers Begins script, I was pretty excited for alot of things.
Batman landing on Falconi's car was pretty dope on paper. I guess I just imagined it being done in world and vision of Blade 1. Instead I got what I consider a very odd scene, to say the least.
Then I look at how Snyder tackles scenes that read well on paper and I have hope. If the direction really delivers, than the Box Office will follow. Just look at Returns.

 

[Marvin]

i don't know about you but the will smith film after earth looks wonderful man and world war z has brad pitt this could be another war of the worlds .

Those films could be hits, but then again they have a significant X factors riding against them.

In the case of After Earth, it's M. Night. It's like he's cursed or something. The consistency in his flops is pretty remarkable. And to mess up a sure thing like Air Bender in the very specific way that he did. The Happening was a special kind of failure, it really exposed his vision for the odd, slow, non sense that it could be. I don't know man.
People say the Will Smith factor is a big deal, people forget that Will Smith doesn't have a resume of only hits. If the movie stunk or wasn't all that good, the box office followed suit. AND IF EVER A MOVIE COULD STINK, it's with this director.

I'm also not sure about the nepotism going on with this property. Some people don't like it some people don't care. I wonder if just casting another kid may have been a better decision. But that's just me. I hope the film does well, we need more minority lead projects in the industry.

As for World War Z. Just google most any article about that films troubles and you'll see it has a lot riding against it, much more than War of the Worlds did. It has a big chance of being a bomb. One of those heavily picked on (green lantern) type situations. CGI Zombies is always fickle territory. I think this picture will be the critics Pińata this season. It's just high profile enough to get them salivating.

Both those films have one major thing going for them. A high profile actor in a high concept genre film. If they fall flat(and they both have a good chance of doing so), we'll no doubt get more talk of the June curse around these parts.

Just like with Prometheus.

 

[metaphysician]

Marketing budgets are often tax deductible so I don't know why people figure that money into the cost as if all of it is lost. Hollywood has creative accounting. As for this film, if it can make more than SR they are in good shape.

Not only that, but the marketing budget is largely a paper budget. Most of the "expenditures" are actually in the form of reciprocal agreements. When Disney made a deal with 7-11 to have Avengers slushies and other such promo items? No money likely changed hands; instead, Disney "paid" 7-11 in "rights to use Avengers imagery for marketing" and 7-11 "paid" Disney in "usage of your imagery in our products." Everyone benefits, and *both* parties can put down on their budget the dollar value of the consideration they provided, even though no money actually changed hands.

This is why you should pay far more attention to the production budget, as that involves real dollars spent out of cash reserves and on-hand loans.

 

[metaphysician]

thor would have done better had it not been for that odd boycott .

. . . your kidding, right?

 

[A.Stabelli]

You guys have me worried that Man of Steel will flop and that we'll never see Superman on the big screen again.

 

[Tra-El]

You guys have me worried that Man of Steel will flop and that we'll never see Superman on the big screen again.

Not happening. This is the perfect storm for a Superman movie to literally explode off its hinges. The Superhero and fantasy-type genre is at its peak right now and it's kind of scary what SUPERMAN can do in a time where other franchise's and characters are off to a franchise altering boom at the box office. With the current CGI, the current cast, the current standard and the current people overlooking the name of SUPERMAN (a cultural champion by name ALONE and the 'king daddy of all superheros) Man of Steel is going to be a massive hit. When Superman could benefit off of others in the industry, look out. Another thing to specifically look at is that the world hasn't seen a GOOD or DECENT Superman film since 1978-1980. That's 33 years worth. People aren't going to know what to DO when viewing Man of Steel because Supes is finally going to have a GOOD film on the screen in 3+ decades.

 

[Kal-E]

Hey buddies
I am long time comic book fan. I have a friend in the industry and he has seen footage and he said it going to be epic!!
OW 160-200m
DOM 450-650m
OS 800-1.2B OS
WW 1.2B-1.85B
This film is going to rivalThe Avengers

 

[BH/HHH]

Hey buddies
I am long time comic book fan. I have a friend in the industry and he has seen footage and he said it going to be epic!!
OW 160-200m
DOM 450-650m
OS 800-1.2B OS
WW 1.2B-1.85B
This film is going to rivalThe Avengers

Sure you do

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Batman Begins failed to surpass 400 million because WB botched the marketing, not because it wasn't 'cinematic' enough.

 

[solidsnake86]

Batman Begins failed to surpass 400 million because WB botched the marketing, not because it wasn't 'cinematic' enough.

How did they exactly botch the marketing when it seemed to me they did more than TDK and TDKR.

In fact they did everything people wanted MOS to do. A superbowl spot, lots of trailers, pictures etc., even a 10 minute preview on tv.

The only thing that was negative to batman was the fact that people forget the utter damage batman and robin did to that franchise and comic book movies in general. Not to mention BB was the 5th film starring batman, not exactly new ground that was being broken.

It seems to me if comic book films are actually good movies, the box office takes care of itself and BB is a testament to it. Making 200 million domestic is no easy task, even thor and cap couldnt break that number.

 

[BH/HHH]

No I don't agree with botched marketing at all, Begins followed on the back of one of the worst films in cinematic history and reboots weren't as common then. People were obviously turned off from the last films. Batman Begins did really well on DVD and many people only saw it after the Dark Knight but that wasn't due to marketing. There were viral campaigns, several trailers, posters everywhere and a Superbowl spot.

 

[kedrell]

How did they exactly botch the marketing when it seemed to me they did more than TDK and TDKR.

In fact they did everything people wanted MOS to do. A superbowl spot, lots of trailers, pictures etc., even a 10 minute preview on tv.

The only thing that was negative to batman was the fact that people forget the utter damage batman and robin did to that franchise and comic book movies in general. Not to mention BB was the 5th film starring batman, not exactly new ground that was being broken.

It seems to me if comic book films are actually good movies, the box office takes care of itself and BB is a testament to it. Making 200 million domestic is no easy task, even thor and cap couldnt break that number.

I'd agrue Thor & Cap had much stiffer competition in 2011 than BB had in 2005. And even then they didn't come up all that short, especially WW where Cap pretty much equalled BB and Thor did considerably better.

 

[Kal-E]

Sure you do

Everybody in the world knows who supes is bud.

Captain America and Thor are better than Batman Begins. Begins is boring and lame. Two lesser known superhero movies did huge at the box office.

 

[BH/HHH]

Everybody in the world knows who supes is bud.

Captain America and Thor are better than Batman Begins. Begins is boring and lame. Two lesser known superhero movies did huge at the box office.

Ha ha what? I wasn't even replying to anything to do with that, it was a reply to you saying you know someone in the industry.

In your opinion Begins is lame and boring but that has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

 

[solidsnake86]

I'd agrue Thor & Cap had much stiffer competition in 2011 than BB had in 2005. And even then they didn't come up all that short, especially WW where Cap pretty much equalled BB and Thor did considerably better.

Domestic used to be where the most profit was made and they were still 20 million short which is a lot of money and those movies had 3d. They did well and its not a dig at them at all. Just saying that BB had a lot going against it that marketing could not really fix no matter what.

 

[Kal-E]

Ha ha what? I wasn't even replying to anything to do with that, it was a reply to you saying you know someone in the industry.

In your opinion Begins is lame and boring but that has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

I was referring to Kenderal and doomsdayapel about why Batman Begins made 200m. If it was a better film it crossed 200m. Look at the ASM.

I know some in the industry his name is Dean. We go back years, we to high school together. He is a big comic book fan.

 

[solidsnake86]

^BB did cross 200 million domestic....

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Man, if you guys actually believe Begins had a fantastic marketing scheme then I suggest you talk to Jamie. Leading up to the film, WB completely dropped the ball. The only reason Begins garnered over 200 million domestically is because of the strong word of mouth.

 

[DoomsdayApex]

Everybody in the world knows who supes is bud.

Captain America and Thor are better than Batman Begins. Begins is boring and lame. Two lesser known superhero movies did huge at the box office.

You may find it lame and boring but it's still considered the best superhero origin film amongst a ton of comic fans.

Get back to me when Captain America and Thor have back to back billion dollar installments. That's true star power. Batman and Spiderman are the only superheroes with that much draw at the moment.

 

[Kryptonian Titan]

Not happening. This is the perfect storm for a Superman movie to literally explode off its hinges. The Superhero and fantasy-type genre is at its peak right now and it's kind of scary what SUPERMAN can do in a time where other franchise's and characters are off to a franchise altering boom at the box office. With the current CGI, the current cast, the current standard and the current people overlooking the name of SUPERMAN (a cultural champion by name ALONE and the 'king daddy of all superheros) Man of Steel is going to be a massive hit. When Superman could benefit off of others in the industry, look out. Another thing to specifically look at is that the world hasn't seen a GOOD or DECENT Superman film since 1978-1980. That's 33 years worth. People aren't going to know what to DO when viewing Man of Steel because Supes is finally going to have a GOOD film on the screen in 3+ decades.

Agreed. It definitely has potential to be big!

 

[snyderrocks]

MoS is coming out 7 years after a lame superman movie. I'm sure it's box office will be hurt in a way that it wouldn't had Returns not existed. However, my opinion remains that Begins could have been a much bigger money maker than it was had it been more cinematic. Point in case, does anyone in the general audience really think the Scarecrow was as exciting as the joker(especially in the trailers)? Does anyone actually think batman driving away from a few cops while yelling at a sleeping Katie Holmes really measure up to him chasing the Joker chasing Harvey Dent, in a car that explodes into a motorcycle chase scene which ends up with bats on his back in the middle of the streets and joker dancing...

Begins had alot going against it but, alot of that movie's decisions didn't really help it create the fever at the box office other films have.
I'd say the same thing about Cap/Thor/IHulk vs Ironman 1.

Again, I think Snyder has the vision to take Goyers script and deliver on this issue in a big way. When I read Goyers Begins script, I was pretty excited for alot of things.
Batman landing on Falconi's car was pretty dope on paper. I guess I just imagined it being done in world and vision of Blade 1. Instead I got what I consider a very odd scene, to say the least.
Then I look at how Snyder tackles scenes that read well on paper and I have hope. If the direction really delivers, than the Box Office will follow. Just look at Returns.

man of steel has more going for it then batman begins ever did nolan is much a bigger name then he was then , the cast and crew of man of steel are bigger names then the cast and crew of batman begins were prior to the film coming out back in 2005 if nolan and bale were bigger names like the 300 guy zack snyder and and the star of immortals henry cavill are today batman begins would done a whole lot better at the box office.

 

[snyderrocks]

Those films could be hits, but then again they have a significant X factors riding against them.

In the case of After Earth, it's M. Night. It's like he's cursed or something. The consistency in his flops is pretty remarkable. And to mess up a sure thing like Air Bender in the very specific way that he did. The Happening was a special kind of failure, it really exposed his vision for the odd, slow, non sense that it could be. I don't know man.
People say the Will Smith factor is a big deal, people forget that Will Smith doesn't have a resume of only hits. If the movie stunk or wasn't all that good, the box office followed suit. AND IF EVER A MOVIE COULD STINK, it's with this director.

I'm also not sure about the nepotism going on with this property. Some people don't like it some people don't care. I wonder if just casting another kid may have been a better decision. But that's just me. I hope the film does well, we need more minority lead projects in the industry.

As for World War Z. Just google most any article about that films troubles and you'll see it has a lot riding against it, much more than War of the Worlds did. It has a big chance of being a bomb. One of those heavily picked on (green lantern) type situations. CGI Zombies is always fickle territory. I think this picture will be the critics Pińata this season. It's just high profile enough to get them salivating.

Both those films have one major thing going for them. A high profile actor in a high concept genre film. If they fall flat(and they both have a good chance of doing so), we'll no doubt get more talk of the June curse around these parts.

Just like with Prometheus.

m . night is a misunderstood genius after earth will be critically acclaimed and find box office gold and i don't think the issues will hurt world war z .

 

[Liam_H]

Misunderstood genius...okay.