The Amazing Spider-Man Marc Webb to return? - Part 1

[LegendAssemble]

my brother always talks about liking the mechanical webshooters because and I quote "UPGRADES man." That would also be why he likes Iron Man and Batman as much as he does...

But its a cool concept that, he can develop better webs, webs for different situations. Like his special formula against Hydroman that solidifies him.

Thats what I like about them too, but thats something that would work better in a cartoon or a comic than on the big screen yah know? And ehh I kinda liked the organic webshooters. In James Camerons script he explained Peter needed to eat alot of fiber and carbs to replenish them. Not to say I don't like mechanical, it's just one of those things that I'm pretty indifferent to.

 

[©KAW]

While it's true that its up to the creator to decide what to do, that doesn't invalidate anyone's opinion on the creator's decisions.

Yes, it does invalidate them. We're observers, not apart of the creation. Sure we can b---- about it, but it's moot, because the character was realized the way the creators wanted him to be, with mechanical web-shooters.

These folks here would have probably told Leonardo da Vinci how he should have painted the Mona Lisa.

In the realm of fantasy - especially that of comics where there's human/animal hybrids in nearly every book you open, that point is totally debatable.

But what isn't debatable is how someone chooses how far to go with that human/animal hybrid.

If I created Cow-Man. Do I want him to shoot you with milk from his belly button or do I want him to carry a water-gun filled with milk. It's up to me, the creator, not you who have zero say in the matter.

Oh, by the way, I didn't create Cow-Man. If he does exist.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Yes, it does invalidate them. We're observers, not apart of the creation. Sure we can b---- about it, but it's moot, because the character was realized the way the creators wanted him to be, with mechanical web-shooters.

Yes, people complaining one way or the other is moot because as observers they have no say (though this isn't entirely true...they reverted back to mechs in the comics after fan upheaval). But a fan's opinion can't be invalidated because they are the "fan" and not the "creator".

In my mind, an opinion can only be "invalidated" based on the reasons behind the opinion (ie: ignorance of the facts surrounding the topic), not the opinion itself. But that's neither here nor there as this is a topic for another discussion.

These folks here would have probably told Leonardo da Vinci how he should have painted the Mona Lisa.

Maybe. But lets not confuse a masterpiece by one of history's greatest artists with a 60 year old comic book.

But what isn't debatable is how someone chooses how far to go with that human/animal hybrid.

You're on a comic book message board. For better or worse, EVERYTHING is debatable. This conversation proves it.

If I created Cow-Man. Do I want him to shoot you with milk from his belly button or do I want him to carry a water-gun filled with milk. It's up to me, the creator, not you who have zero say in the matter.

True I wouldn't be able to tell you what to do with your creation, but I can sure as hell tell you what I think about it (hint: ) which is what people are doing here. Not liking their opinion doesn't negate it.

Oh, by the way, I didn't create Cow-Man. If he does exist.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Hahaha....

 

[©KAW]

Damn Google and their images!

Yes, people complaining one way or the other is moot because as observers they have no say (though this isn't entirely true...they reverted back to mechs in the comics after fan upheaval). But a fan's opinion can't be invalidated because they are the "fan" and not the "creator".

In my mind, an opinion can only be "invalidated" based on the reasons behind the opinion (ie: ignorance of the facts surrounding the topic), not the opinion itself. But that's neither here nor there as this is a topic for another discussion.

You're definitely not an artist or writer, I don't think the creator who's 100% happy with what one has created, care for people telling him/her to...do it like this, my idea for your creation is better.

Maybe. But lets not confuse a masterpiece by one of history's greatest artists with a 60 year old comic book.

Rules still apply, even if you yourself created a new character yesterday.

You're on a comic book message board. For better or worse, EVERYTHING is debatable. This conversation proves it.

True I wouldn't be able to tell you what to do with your creation, but I can sure as hell tell you what I think about it (hint: ) which is what people are doing here. Not liking their opinion doesn't negate it.

Of course it's debatable in that sense, I'm not trying to shut you up. I'm just saying that Spider-Man mechanical web-shooters are apart of his character as much as him climbing the walls, and that organic web-shooters are not. Even if you really love them and want them to be.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Damn Google and their images!

You're definitely not an artist or writer, I don't think the creator who's 100% happy with what one has created, care for people telling him/her to...do it like this, my idea for your creation is better.

Actually, I am an artist. I get paid a nice chunk of change to draw and animate cartoons all day. And I also write short stories on occasion, as well as being a musician. Hearing critiques (both welcomed and unwelcomed) goes with the territory. There will ALWAYS be people who offer their opinions on ones work, both good and bad. And yes, that does include those who step over the line and tell you what you "should" have done. Those people are either fanboys or editors. If an artist can't handle that, they shouldn't be in the business.

That being said, I believe you're confusing the opinions that a handleful of strangers are posting on a forum to someone knocking on Stan Lees door and demanding that he redo Amazing Fantasy. The two are totally different scenarios. One leads to heated debates, the other leads to a restraining order.

Of course it's debatable in that sense, I'm not trying to shut you up. I'm just saying that Spider-Man mechanical web-shooters are apart of his character as much as him climbing the walls, and that organic web-shooters are not. Even if you really love them and want them to be.

And no one is denying that. But like every story, every painting, hell, every football game, there will ALWAYS be someone who thinks it should have been done differently to one extent to another. That is one of the aspects of the relationship between entertainer and the entertained. These things SHOULD be discussed, IMO, regardless if any of the persons words ever reach the creators ears. It's part of the fun, the evolution, and the life of the art.

 

[©KAW]

Actually, I am an artist. I get paid a nice chunk of change to draw and animate cartoons all day. And I also write short stories on occasion, as well as being a musician. Hearing critiques (both welcomed and unwelcomed) goes with the territory. There will ALWAYS be people who offer their opinions on ones work, both good and bad. And yes, that does include those who step over the line and tell you what you "should" have done. Those people are either fanboys or editors. If an artist can't handle that, they shouldn't be in the business.

That being said, I believe you're confusing the opinions that a handleful of strangers are posting on a forum to someone knocking on Stan Lees door and demanding that he redo Amazing Fantasy. The two are totally different scenarios. One leads to heated debates, the other leads to a restraining order.

Except if the artist/creator has a character who has had mechanical web-shooters for over 50+ years of his existence, seriously, now fanboys want them changed.

No confusion here on how this all came about, and it's not even a heated debate, because when the smoke clears, as his creators intended, Spider-Man will still have mechanical web-shooters.

And no one is denying that. But like every story, every painting, hell, every football game, there will ALWAYS be someone who thinks it should have been done differently to one extent to another. That is one of the aspects of the relationship between entertainer and the entertained. These things SHOULD be discussed, IMO, regardless if any of the persons words ever reach the creators ears. It's part of the fun, the evolution, and the life of the art.

But not when it comes to wanting someone else's art/character changed into something else.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

when the smoke clears, as his creators intended, Spider-Man will still have mechanical web-shooters.

reason to celebrate right thur.

 

[Jexx]

Thats what I like about them too, but thats something that would work better in a cartoon or a comic than on the big screen yah know? And ehh I kinda liked the organic webshooters. In James Camerons script he explained Peter needed to eat alot of fiber and carbs to replenish them. Not to say I don't like mechanical, it's just one of those things that I'm pretty indifferent to.

If they showed that in the Raimi movies (needing to eat a lot of fiber and carbs to refill webs) I would of liked them more.

 

[Jexx]

As far as web v. organic goes....this is a debate that's been going on for over ten years. It is now part of the lexicon of Spider-Man mythos. Like the internal battle between Trekkies and Star wars fans, the debate over organics and mechs will forever be.

I personally don't care one way or the other. I think they both have their merits in one capacity or another. If I had to choose, I'd go with mechs if only because that's how Stan Lee made it originally (I was very disappointed we didn't get an "out of webbing mid swing moment" in ASM). That being said, i think the vast majority of the issues/"problems" people have with organics aren't very well thought out and border on a sensationalist mentality.

They could of turned the scene where he misses the crane into an 'oops, out of webs' moment. Peter should of said "Damn! I'm out of ammo!"

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

They could of turned the scene where he misses the crane into an 'oops, out of webs' moment. Peter should of said "Damn! I'm out of ammo!"

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[Marvel Spider]

THE ANSWER IS YES.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/andrew-garfield-and-marc-webb-sign-on-for-spidey-sequels/

 

[Spidey220987]

He is back! Great news (in my opinion), absolutely LOVED The Amazing Spider-Man!

 

[Still Wynning]

THE ANSWER IS YES.

http://www.deadline.com/2012/09/andrew-garfield-and-marc-webb-sign-on-for-spidey-sequels/

Yay for consistency! t:

I'll admit, The Amazing Spider-Man wasn't my favorite movie of this summer, but that was mainly because of how the editing was handled in some parts of the film, the way the score was used, etc, and not the fault of the actors or the director. I did still enjoy it, though.

Now that the origin is out of the way, it will give Webb a chance to take what he learned from this film, apply it to the sequel and really cut loose.

With Orci and Kurtzman writing the script this time around (they know how to write good character moments/interaction and good humor), I'm definitely looking forward to seeing what Marc Webb brings to the table for the sequel.

 

[Nathan]

Great news. I'm so glad that Webb will be back in the director's chair.

 

[J.Howlett]

Thank Christ, this got resolved! So happy. Amazing was amazing.

 

[Marvel Spider]

In addition to Marc returning, writer/producer Jeff Pinkner will be working on the script with Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. Pinkner worked on Fringe, Lost, and Alias as a screenwriter.

 

[Spidey_62]

Awesome news!!

 

[Mike]

Hell yea!!

 

[GuestStar2004]

Im happy to hear Webb is returning

least now the origin is done so sony can give abit more freedom hopefully

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Well I'm on board for TASM2.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I certainly wasnt the biggest fan of TASM, but I am glad Webb is returning for continuity, plus the sequel has massive potential.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

Great news!!

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

TASM2 will make or break everything. If it's great, TASM1 will probably be seen as a better movie, if it sucks, TASM1 is good but ultimately worthless.

 

[SpideyFan866]

TASM2 will make or break everything. If it's great, TASM1 will probably be seen as a better movie, if it sucks, TASM1 is good but ultimately worthless.

Agreed.

Again, this is why I say TASM is pretty much Spider-Man franchise's Batman Begins.

The first one accomplished its task, but the 2nd film is what will make or break everything.

We can only hope TASM2 has TDK amounts of success.