Matt Reeves Directing The Batman

[Kane52630]

Apparently it's Jon Berg and Geoff Johns who's running it now with Toby Emmerich and Kevin Tsujihara giving the final say.

 

[Kane52630]

WARNER BROS.

Warners has a greenlight committee that includes marketing/distribution chief Sue Kroll, international distribution and growth initiatives president Veronica Kwan Vandenberg and home entertainment president Ron Sanders. But with the elevation in December of Toby Emmerich to president of Warner Bros. Pictures, he and chairman/CEO Kevin Tsujihara have final say (with Tsujihara said to wield outsized influence in committee meetings). "You've got to get through the committee to get gaveled," says an executive affiliated with a Warner subsidiary. "It's got to get through the scrum. But if everyone is supportive, then Kevin and Toby say yes or no."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/ne...-greenlight-authority-at-movie-studios-976236

 

[writer0327]

This. The only way they can get someone like Gibson is because he is damaged goods because of his personal life

Gibson's main criticism of the CBM and summer tentpole films in general is that the budgets are overstuffed (he's probably right about this). So what if he came in and directed a $100M budgeted Batman film that is as good as anything else he's ever done?

Gibson could bring himself a ton of positive public relations by directing a kickass blockbuster CBM. Think about it....so far the DCEU is a tragedy by critical standards, and has probably left money on the table at the box office. Here comes a director who is as good as they get in Hollywood and has already lambasted the bloated nature of Hollywood blockbusters.

Imagine if they let him make it R-rated? (which he would)

 

[2kt09]

Imagine if they let him make it R-rated? (which he would)

Are we still talking about Batman?

I figure that would ruffle feathers.

 

[Hurm...]

Imagine if he made Batman kill?!

Oh, wait.

 

[2kt09]

Exactly and people went crazy.

 

[writer0327]

Are we still talking about Batman?

I figure that would ruffle feathers.

It probably would, but we're headed in that direction anyway in CBMs, it's only a matter of time. We've already had an R-rated film with Batman in it. I'm sure Gibson could weave deftly around Batman's "no-kill" policy somehow and still make it R.

 

[Babillygunn]

LOL Michael Mann is not doing a Batman movie.

<sniff sniff>. I'll let it go guys.

 

[2kt09]

It probably would, but we're headed in that direction anyway in CBMs, it's only a matter of time. We've already had an R-rated film with Batman in it. I'm sure Gibson could weave deftly around Batman's "no-kill" policy somehow and still make it R.

The direction toward R-rated cbm's was for the more outlandish and isolated properties like all the supposed Millar stuff in development. It's also one that made the most sense for Suicide Squad.

Nameless thugs get killed in comic book movies or get "knocked out" to where they shouldn't have been able to survive that, so be it.
That's not enough reason for an R.

 

[metaphysician]

Said it before and I'll say it again-- Why has no one considered the possibility that Snyder is the one who's secretly on the Disney payroll?

Because that would require admitting that what Snyder is doing *is the problem*. . . when the majority of fans of the current DCEU are fans because they like what he does.

The DCEU hasn't reached the same point Transformers has, where even the people who buy tickets and go to see each movie will openly admit "Yes, this stuff is awful."

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Wait

 

[writer0327]

The direction toward R-rated cbm's was for the more outlandish and isolated properties like all the supposed Millar stuff in development. It's also one that made the most sense for Suicide Squad.

Nameless thugs get killed in comic book movies or get "knocked out" to where they shouldn't have been able to survive that, so be it.
That's not enough reason for an R.

No question, but I believe that range will expand to include more mainstream superheroes in the future, and I think that future is closer than we think. Snyder just made an R-rated film with Superman and Batman, and many people believe that's the version that should have been released, not the neutered one.

If Logan's box office comes back plus $700M (for the record, I doubt it will...but if it does), I think studios are going to change their mindsets. So if a director like Mel Gibson says he wants to make a Batman film provided he can do whatever he wants, I think they'd jump at that.

 

[Babillygunn]

I won't say it's awful. But I will say that Snyder is horrible and his movies are like watching something that a 13 year old came up with. That said, there are aspects of the films, really just parts here or there(the warehouse fight, the MOS oil rig fire) that are very good and encompasses what you appreciate of the character. That makes the rest of the stuff so frustrating.

Then Snyders inner 13 year old takes over and he demolishes a city or says "we have one of the most accomplished actresses in Hollywood today as Lois Lane. Let's do a scene where she's inexplicably naked in a bathtub for no reason!

Frustrating!

 

[2kt09]

No question, but I believe that range will expand to include more mainstream superheroes in the future, and I think that future is closer than we think. Snyder just made an R-rated film with Superman and Batman, and many people believe that's the version that should have been released, not the neutered one.

If Logan's box office comes back plus $700M (for the record, I doubt it will...but if it does), I think studios are going to change their mindsets. So if a director like Mel Gibson says he wants to make a Batman film provided he can do whatever he wants, I think they'd jump at that.

I guess regarding Mel. Still feel if anything he'll get an R-rated SS2 and then they'll test the waters on that before shooting him to Batman if they haven't gotten a director by whenever they finally decide to go into production.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

R- rating wouldn't do much for me, great Batman stories have been told in PG-13. And BTAS which was aimed towards children.

I was excited when Arkham Knight made the jump from Teen to Mature rating, but then it turned out to have a sloppy and predictable story. And that was worse than all the potential stuff they could have missed out on if they stuck to Teen.


I always considered that the main Justice League characters should be accessible to all audience members 12 and up.

 

[writer0327]

R- rating wouldn't do much for me, great Batman stories have been told in PG-13. And BTAS which was aimed towards children.

I was excited when Arkham Knight made the jump from Teen to Mature rating, but then it turned out to have a sloppy and predictable story.

They don't mean anything to me either, however to lure a director like Mel Gibson, you'd have to allow him to make whatever movie he wants to make. I'm guessing that Mel would like to make a Batman film without any restrictions. I think the idea of it would intrigue him. If he's interested in SS2, he's got to be at least somewhat curious about what he could do with Batman.

I also think it could be a way to get Ben feeling a little better about it all.

I dunno, just thinking out loud.

 

[metaphysician]

I've always been of the opinion WB should have stuck with that from day one. That would actually be something different to what Marvel is doing, and would have worked out a lot better IMO. DC characters are iconic enough to stand on their own two feet. They don't need a shared universe. Independent trilogies should have been the template, as laid down by TDKT.

OTOH, that presumes that what worked with TDK would continue to work. I suspect that, in practice? It would have fallen apart anyway, because it wasn't some Successful System that made the Nolan Batman movies work, it was Nolan specifically. Once Nolan finished, it was up to chance once again, and the dice were weighted against success.

 

[Paradox1]

Batman himself isn't a R rated character like I would think of Deadpool as one. However the city he protects and his rogues gallery could be an R, if a director choose to go there.

 

[batdude]

Batman is a special case though. I don't think DC/Warner would miss out on all the toy deals from doing it as an R rated movie. Still, whatever the rating, A Mel Gibson directed Batman movie could be fun.

 

[Benal]

I hate doing this but I got curious. Fede Alvarez liked this tweet yesterday: "Fede Alvarez is maybe making Batman? Fede is amazing and can direct anything in my book!". He also liked a tweet that named him as one of the contenders for directing.

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

R- rating wouldn't do much for me, great Batman stories have been told in PG-13. And BTAS which was aimed towards children.

I was excited when Arkham Knight made the jump from Teen to Mature rating, but then it turned out to have a sloppy and predictable story. And that was worse than all the potential stuff they could have missed out on if they stuck to Teen.


I always considered that the main Justice League characters should be accessible to all audience members 12 and up.

I've never played the games but I love the DCAU and BTAS in particular. Here in the UK Burton's Batman films and Nolan's were certified as 12's (although curiously Burton's were both reclassified as 15's for home release) and they managed to tell good stories well and seriously. If they can continue with that tone and quality I'll be more than happy for the future Batman films to be classified the same.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Does anyone else think Chad Stahelski (John Wick director) would be a good choice?

 

[David H.]

Does anyone else think Chad Stahelski (John Wick director) would be a good choice?

Isn't he doing Deadpool 2? Or is that the other one? Aren't both of them attached to a superhero movie already?

You want a Michael Mann Batman just watch The Dark Knight.

 

[FunkMiller]

Does anyone else think Chad Stahelski (John Wick director) would be a good choice?

Just watched John Wick 2. Yes. Definitely.

 

[thebatfan5194]

Isn't he doing Deadpool 2? Or is that the other one? Aren't both of them attached to a superhero movie already?

You want a Michael Mann Batman just watch The Dark Knight.

The other one is doing Deadpool 2, I don't think Chad Stahleski is attached to anything of note right now...