MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 1

[NicoSuave]

Did anyone else see this? For now, other than AOU, AntMan, Cap 3 (minus the subtitle), Doctor Strange, and GOTG 2 (minus the subtitle), the rest of the films on that list are still kinda stuck in the rumor/yet-to-be-confirmed stage.

 

[paypaytr]

i dont why they are doing Daredevil as TV show. he is more interesting than Dr Strange.
and what the heck are they planning with GhostRider they got him last year on february
they should planned him really no ghost rider movie?
first one was good comic adaption

 

[Mike Murdock]

Why would being more interesting prevent the character from appearing on TV? It seems more interesting means more opportunities to explore the character in an episodic format. Daredevil's probably on TV because he's an easier character to have on a television budget in live action.

 

[Loki882]

And he's got the lawyer side that's also pretty interesting. So you've essentially got a "Batman meets Law & Order" deal with him. An ongoing TV show gives MUCH more time to explore BOTH of those, plus his personal life, than a two hour movie would.

 

[First Avenger]

I love that they're doing a Daredevil TV show, I think it really fits the character(s).

 

[paypaytr]

i dont but i didnt like arrow TV show. i couldnt keep a lot tv show same time so it also mean Daredevil isnt not important as hawkeye.People(massive people) will not know daredevil anymore.i hoped a movie with defenders ghost rider luke cage daredevil spider woman and ms marvel maybe avengers ala movie so it would be better

its personal but i cant keep tv shows. i just watch GameofThrones and if daredevil isnt same quality as GOT then it would be suck. agents of shield is boring as hell

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

he is more interesting than Dr Strange.

naturally, I disagree

 

[Dr. Evil]

Why would being more interesting prevent the character from appearing on TV? It seems more interesting means more opportunities to explore the character in an episodic format. Daredevil's probably on TV because he's an easier character to have on a television budget in live action.

Plus you get a 13 hour movie basically about Daredevil.

 

[paypaytr]

i dont get why people want dr strange so much. a ghost rider movie would be much cool. dr strange isnt that strange. boring actually. ghost rider is cool guy. atleast do marvel knights Ghost Rider Blade Dr Strange MS Marvel
dr strange isnt interesting

 

[doink]

Did anyone else see this? For now, other than AOU, AntMan, Cap 3 (minus the subtitle), Doctor Strange, and GOTG 2 (minus the subtitle), the rest of the films on that list are still kinda stuck in the rumor/yet-to-be-confirmed stage.

Those logos are fanmade, they've been floating around the net ever since last year...I'm getting tired of seeing them posted everywhere like they were real -_-;

Like...they're not going to do Civil War for A3. It's really really obvious, especially after GoTG, that they're doing Infinity Gauntlet for A3.

 

[marcvader]

i dont get why people want dr strange so much. a ghost rider movie would be much cool. dr strange isnt that strange. boring actually. ghost rider is cool guy. atleast do marvel knights Ghost Rider Blade Dr Strange MS Marvel
dr strange isnt interesting

Obviously many people get something you can't . Ghost Rider has had two films that have sucked so he's taking a nap right now.

 

[DrCosmic]

i dont get why people want dr strange so much. a ghost rider movie would be much cool. dr strange isnt that strange. boring actually. ghost rider is cool guy. atleast do marvel knights Ghost Rider Blade Dr Strange MS Marvel
dr strange isnt interesting

Oh, let me help you since Kevin Feige, the guy that oversees the MCU, was asked that same thing:

Two things. One, he is a great individual singular character. He's got a great personality. He's got a great origin story. And he's very, very different than any of our other characters. And, you know, we could find a great, great actor to bring that role to life. And a lot of people have been calling us, for years, about that. And he is a section of the Marvel universe -- like "Guardians," is cosmic, and Thor and The Avengers sort of tease into that cosmic realm. He deals with other dimensions and he deals with the supernatural side of the Marvel universe -- which is extensive. And which we haven't dealt with at all in the Marvel cinematic universe. And arguably only in "Blade" -- and "Ghost Rider," I guess -- touched on some of that stuff. So, to me, Doctor Strange is an in to a whole other corner of the Marvel universe that we haven't brought to life in movies yet.

With "Doctor Strange," "it is a classic Marvel origin story, because he's got one of the best origins ever," Feige promises. "It's our opportunity to take that left turn into the supernatural. Now what is the definition of 'supernatural'? It varies. We like the idea of playing with alternate dimensions. 'Strange,' in a very acid trip way, traveling through dimensions and traveling through other realms, is something that we think is very, very cool, playing with the perceptions of reality."

Now I don't like Dr. Strange personally, have absolutely no interest in him whatsoever, especially the magical Tony Stark thing that's gaining traction in recent adaptations. That said, he's a great character, with a great mix of tragedy and spectacle that will make for a great film.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

i dont get why people want dr strange so much. a ghost rider movie would be much cool. dr strange isnt that strange. boring actually. ghost rider is cool guy. atleast do marvel knights Ghost Rider Blade Dr Strange MS Marvel
dr strange isnt interesting

maybe, because Strange is a fascinating character with one of the most dramatic, saddest origin stories.

maybe, because the acid influenced aesthetics, the Lovecraftian yet trippy stories and settings make Strange a stand out character unparalelled in the 616 universe and one that is desperatly needed if the MCU wants to introduce the supernatural part of their universe.

maybe, because Strange just needs the right actor and a director who knows his comic lore and we have a very special movie on our hands.

and for sure because Ghost Rider had two chances for a decent movie already and sometimes one just has to accept that some things just don't work.

 

[Dark Raven]

Ghost Rider doesn't seem to click with audiences. He might seem cool in the comics, but audiences don't seem to relate to him all that well. Dr Strange probably has broader appeal, just like Iron Man does compared to the Hulk (who was also an A-List property in comics but also didn't quite find an audience before the Avengers).

 

[DrCosmic]

Ghost Rider and Hulk actually have a lot of the same problems in appealing as they're both CGI monster transformations and not really much like superheroes overall.

 

[marcvader]

I think GR would work better if Johnny Blaze were better written and better cast. He'd also benefit from being in a team setting.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Did anyone else see this? For now, other than AOU, AntMan, Cap 3 (minus the subtitle), Doctor Strange, and GOTG 2 (minus the subtitle), the rest of the films on that list are still kinda stuck in the rumor/yet-to-be-confirmed stage.

avengers 3 is definitely not civil war, it's going to be vs thanos

 

[KDM1986]

I think GR would work better if Johnny Blaze were better written and better cast. He'd also benefit from being in a team setting.

Yep, Midnight Sons!

 

[paypaytr]

i dont like Kevin Feige either. one mind behind all is like dictator. main reason ant man will suck is feige and Disney Corps.


every marvel studios movie shouldnt be includded in MCU. They could try some RRated movies. You cant do blade punisher ghost rider without blood and stuff like that.

 

[Dark Raven]

i dont like Kevin Feige either. one mind behind all is like dictator. main reason ant man will suck is feige and Disney Corps.


every marvel studios movie shouldnt be includded in MCU. They could try some RRated movies. You cant do blade punisher ghost rider without blood and stuff like that.

Yes, because adding blood and gore to the Ghost Rider and the Punisher movies would've vastly improved them.

 

[Loki882]

No, not necessarily. However, GR and Punisher are "R-rated characters" a lot of the time, that's just how they were designed. So making a R-rated movie based on them would fit those particular characters. It's the same reason why a lot of people (including Hugh Jackman) want to see an R-rated Wolverine movie. It fits those particular characters.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

with Phase 2 nearly finished I can't help myself, but I'm thinking MS could improve if they'd redefine their definition of what constitutes a Phase. I know Feige defines a Phase as the period between two Avengers movies and I think in the long run that definition is a bit shortsighted. I see no common theme, no thread in Phase 2 like there was in Phase 1 and with the potential line-up in Phase 3 it looks like there won't be one either. It comes down to personal preferances, I know, but I really would like the Phases to have a personality on their own. Maybe I'm mssing something and there is a theme in Phase 2, cleverly hidden somewhere. But a Phase just defined as the movies between one Avengers film and another is kinda dissapointing for me.

 

[GriffinSTatum]

with Phase 2 nearly finished I can't help myself, but I'm thinking MS could improve if they'd redefine their definition of what constitutes a Phase. I know Feige defines a Phase as the period between two Avengers movies and I think in the long run that definition is a bit shortsighted. I see no common theme, no thread in Phase 2 like there was in Phase 1 and with the potential line-up in Phase 3 it looks like there won't be one either. It comes down to personal preferances, I know, but I really would like the Phases to have a personality on their own. Maybe I'm mssing something and there is a theme in Phase 2, cleverly hidden somewhere. But a Phase just defined as the movies between one Avengers film and another is kinda dissapointing for me.

I don't think they ever really came into the idea of phases as having their own common theme. If I recall correctly, Feige said in an interview that fans had started coming up with the idea of "Phases" and then they merely adopted the notion.

I don't think that the phases truly mean anything, it is just a way to sort of separate the Marvel Studios films into different sections other than through individual franchises.

 

[Kiltman]

with Phase 2 nearly finished I can't help myself, but I'm thinking MS could improve if they'd redefine their definition of what constitutes a Phase. I know Feige defines a Phase as the period between two Avengers movies and I think in the long run that definition is a bit shortsighted. I see no common theme, no thread in Phase 2 like there was in Phase 1 and with the potential line-up in Phase 3 it looks like there won't be one either. It comes down to personal preferances, I know, but I really would like the Phases to have a personality on their own. Maybe I'm mssing something and there is a theme in Phase 2, cleverly hidden somewhere. But a Phase just defined as the movies between one Avengers film and another is kinda dissapointing for me.

I agree, it boxes them in a bit. I think if they have a good story to tell there is no reason they can't make Avengers film less than two years of each other or make them more than three years apart.

Aside from Guardians probably the most prevalent theme is probably people/things aren't always as they appear. (The Mandarin/Odin/SHIELD) all of which leads to Age of Ultron which echoes that sentiment.

 

[sabetoonth]

Even GOTG had something at the end that sorta ties to that.

But I think if there are strings tying anyhin in each film together its he Infinity Stones. Even though they don't all have one.