MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 1

[FrozenBanana00]

I've enjoyed Phase 2 so far. I'm a huge Iron Man fan so, I pretty much love all the movies. Never saw the first Cap film or Thor till I got the Phase 1 boxset and I actually enjoyed them. I'm going to see Guardians of the Galaxy tomorrow. Most people have really enjoyed it so, I'm looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Can't wait for Age of Ultron though.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Just because it didn't limit their imaginations to zero doesn't mean it didin't limit their imaginations at all. And again, it's not about having limits on their imagination, that happens with every big film, it's about having to accommodate someone else's imagination as well. Notice, as much as these films all feel like they come from the directors, they ALSO feel like MCU films. That's not limits, that's creative input, and that's something directors have not had in the past.



Might doesn't make right, just because Marvel can doesn't mean that they should. Just because there are positive results doesn't mean there are no negative ones.

In the history of cinema, it's been the director's vision and then the actors touch, with the studio providing funding and choosing someone whose vision they like. The director has been the chief creative officer. In the MCU, and only there, he is not. He's like that VP that does all the work but the President shows up and takes the credit.

The directors on these projects DO have creative input. Yes. I know all about auteur theory and all that jazz. I had to study all this at school, but the history of cinema is also filled with directors butting heads with studios over creative differences. Ridley Scott had to release a version of Blade Runner unlike his original vision. Only later did HIS version see the light of day. I can list thousands of examples of this happening to great directors. It has been happening with cinema since the founding of cinema. People here act like directors get full say on their projects. Unless they get in their contracts that they get final cut or they produce their own work, they don't. That isn't conjecture on my part. That is fact. That is reality. It is how the studio system has always worked. Ask anyone working on a FOX picture under Tom Rothman about this.

Marvel is managing a shared universe. With that comes the need for consistency, so yes. Directors must respect the visions of other directors when making a Marvel Studios picture. But, that doesn't mean that these films aren't good representations of their work. Go back to my previous post. All those filmmakers clearly had a hand in the creative process. Heck, Gunn, Whedon, and Black all had their hands on writing the films themselves!

 

[HunBoy]

Vin Diesel's FB page:

"Vin and Marvel... you all made it happen! I get the strange feeling that Marvel thinks I'm Inhuman... Haha." - Vin Diesel

https://www.facebook.com/VinDiesel/photos/a.101465923312.101581.89562268312/10152718210358313/?type=1&theater

 

[The Endless]

Black Bolt confirmed.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I hope so.

That being said, he also threw the word Strange in. He may just be messing with people

 

[KDM1986]

I would love a Inhumans movie! Vin Diesel as Black Bolt would be awesome. I'm pretty sure he is just teasing us though.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Inhumans, Black Panther and Carol Danvers. All three must happen.

 

[Keyser Soze]

I do think it would be funny if Vin Diesel ended up playing two characters in the MCU: one where he provided the voice but he doesn't physically appear, and one where he physically appears but we never hear his voice.

 

[Silver Surfer]

Was hoping Vin Diesel as Black Bolt would be true, very very happy that it is.


PLEASE, PLEASE keep the original costume!

 

[Dr. Evil]

In order to maintain success, Marvel needs to diversify:

http://comicsalliance.com/marvel-studios-success-marvel-movies-diversity/

 

[KDM1986]

Inhumans, Black Panther and Carol Danvers. All three must happen.

All three are definitely going to happen. Next comic con should be very interesting.

 

[souNdwAve89]

All three are definitely going to happen. Next comic con should be very interesting.

Definitely! A lot of people were somewhat disappointed at this year's Comic-Con, but it was everything that I expected. BvS is still about two years away, so it makes sense for them to just tease us, and not announce another DC movie in the works. As for Marvel, their focus is on AoU and Ant-Man since they're the next movies up. Comic-Con 2015 will most likely have way more BvS footage and an actual panel. Marvel will definitely announce some Phase 3 movies since AoU will be out by then, and Ant-Man a week after Comic-Con.

 

[Kiltman]

Definitely! A lot of people were somewhat disappointed at this year's Comic-Con, but it was everything that I expected. BvS is still about two years away, so it makes sense for them to just tease us, and not announce another DC movie in the works. As for Marvel, their focus is on AoU and Ant-Man since they're the next movies up. Comic-Con 2015 will most likely have way more BvS footage and an actual panel. Marvel will definitely announce some Phase 3 movies since AoU will be out by then, and Ant-Man a week after Comic-Con.

Yea it's safe to assume we'll get a Cap3 Panel, a Strange panel, The GotG sequel's subtitle and some info on it, and at least the first 2017 film. They have to keep some of it for the following years.

WB will have BvS for sure, and I'm guessing after that they'll then be joined by the rest of the Justice League members with a confirmation it'll be out in their June 2017 spot. And whatever the heck the Rock is doing (....Shazam) will have a panel since it seems to be the August 2016 film.

 

[Shoppy]

Yea it's safe to assume we'll get a Cap3 Panel, a Strange panel, The GotG sequel's subtitle and some info on it, and at least the first 2017 film. They have to keep some of it for the following years.

"Guardians Of The Galaxy: Infinity Watch"

 

[Keyser Soze]

In general I think the next couple of years of SDCC Marvel panels are going to be mind-be singly great:

2015 - Captain America 3 trailer, Doctor Strange trailer, possible Avengers 3 title reveal.
2016 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2 trailer, first look at other two 2017 movies.
2017 - Previews for the three 2018 Marvel films.

 

[ralphuniverse]

G'day,

The great think with the MCU is that it allows them to make movies in a variety of genres.
High fantasy with Thor, techno thrillers with Iron Man, espionage stories with Captain America and crime with Dare Devil and Luke Cage.

But what about romantic comedy? Is there room for a rom-com in the MCU?

Ralph

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

In general I think the next couple of years of SDCC Marvel panels are going to be mind-be singly great:

2015 - Captain America 3 trailer, Doctor Strange trailer, possible Avengers 3 title reveal.
2016 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2 trailer, first look at other two 2017 movies.
2017 - Previews for the three 2018 Marvel films.

not so sure about that
this year everybody was certain we are getting news about Dr. Strange and a couple of hints about the 2017 line up and nothing happend

 

[Sexy Magician]

In general I think the next couple of years of SDCC Marvel panels are going to be mind-be singly great:

2015 - Captain America 3 trailer, Doctor Strange trailer, possible Avengers 3 title reveal.
2016 - Guardians of the Galaxy 2 trailer, first look at other two 2017 movies.
2017 - Previews for the three 2018 Marvel films.

I always assumed it would be Avengers: Infinity Gauntlet

 

[FrozenBanana00]

G'day,

The great think with the MCU is that it allows them to make movies in a variety of genres.
High fantasy with Thor, techno thrillers with Iron Man, espionage stories with Captain America and crime with Dare Devil and Luke Cage.

But what about romantic comedy? Is there room for a rom-com in the MCU?

Ralph

I don't think so. I mean, the Marvel films do have romance in them, where the hero will fall in love and stuff. But I don't think there would ever be a move souly based on romantic comedy. Action will always be top of the list.

 

[Loki882]

Avengers didn't really have romance (unless you count the Tony/Pepper scene, but they were already an established couple by that point).

TWS didn't really have romance in it, nor did GOTG (although they MAY develop the Star Lord/Gamora thing in the sequel, MAYBE).

 

[Mike Murdock]

GOTG had flirtation between Quill and Gamora. I think that counts. TWS had a subverted romantic subplot. Romanoff was being deliberately flirtatious with Steve in a way that suggested she was interested (but probably just reflected her own internal insecurity). But when she asked Steve what he wanted her to be, he responded with "a friend." Still, I think some romance was there.

I agree that Avengers didn't really have any, though. Nor did it need to.

If any movie has it, I could see Ant-Man. I'm not a huge romantic comedy fan, though. I'm not sure if I can think of any examples of an Action Romantic Comedy either.

 

[The Endless]

The Thor films are action rom/coms already. And all the worse for it.

 

[Mike Murdock]

The first one probably, I disagree about the second. The whole fish out of water and finding yourself aspects work well with the falling in love aspects, so I see that. Thor2 had comedy, certainly, and attempted to have romance, kinda, but the sci-fi/techno-fantasy aspects far overshadowed anything else.

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't think so. I mean, the Marvel films do have romance in them, where the hero will fall in love and stuff. But I don't think there would ever be a move souly based on romantic comedy. Action will always be top of the list.

I think She-Hulk could work as a romantic action comedy. That already is the kind of genre she normally falls into anyway. Her brand of law is more Ally McBeal than Daredevil's, who is more Law & Order or The Practice.

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

The Thor films are action rom/coms already. And all the worse for it.

Because the romance is boring and handled poorly. Romance can absolutely work in the MCU. It's tricky though.

A couple of years back, Hollywood was hardcore pushing the "action rom/com" hybrid genre (with This Means War, The Bounty Hunter, Killers, and Knight and Day) probably because, on paper, it looked like the ultimate solution to the cross-gender appeal quandary. This failed miserably, though, mostly because those movies were effing terrible.

But it can work. I think the chemistry between Robert Downey Jr. and Gwyneth Paltrow is dynamite, so if you get a similarly high-chemistry couple, crank up the focus on the relationship slightly, and get an actress that people hate less than they hate Gwyneth Paltrow, there's no reason it couldn't work.

I agree that She-Hulk is probably the ideal candidate for this, although I kind of like my non-monogamous, impossible-to-pin-down, sleeps-with-goddamned-everybody-strong-enough-to-handle-her Shulkie.