MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion - Part 3

[BatsDC]

Umm, I think this new show IS the Agents of SHIELD spin-off

They seem to be separate projects

 

[Infinight888]

Umm, I think this new show IS the Agents of SHIELD spin-off

Possibly. No word yet to confirm one way or the other. Forbes mentioned that Ridley was currently doing another project, which would make him signing on for a full season show unlikely and Deadline reported that it was likely the show would be airing concurrently with Agents of SHIELD. http://www.forbes.com/sites/merrillbarr/2015/04/17/agent-carter-season-2/
http://deadline.com/2015/04/agents-of-shield-spinoff-abc-1201407425/

Taken together, those facts would lead me to believe they might be two different series, with this one being a mini-series airing next to Carter.

 

[Mike Murdock]

CBM suggests it isn't the spinoff (which would mean eight total Marvel TV shows). But I can't possibly imagine what it would be if it isn't.

Had they not gotten Cheo Coker, I would have suggested he would be an ideal choice for Luke Cage based on his involvement with American Crime. As it is, I have no idea.

 

[BatsDC]

Blade, Moon Knight or Cloak and Dagger are my guesses.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Blade, Moon Knight or Cloak and Dagger are my guesses.

how would the last two heroes fit into the long running MCU narrative of "they all battle Thanos at the end of Avengers 4?"

 

[Eddie]

how would the last two heroes fit into the long running MCU narrative of "they all battle Thanos at the end of Avengers 4?"

Easy. Cloak helps 'port everyone. They fit as well as Daredevil, in any case.

 

[gildedmuse]

how would the last two heroes fit into the long running MCU narrative of "they all battle Thanos at the end of Avengers 4?"

I don't know if that is in anyway a question they ask themselves when picking new properties. If it is I suspect it applies far more to the films than their shows. After all, yeah, would you really want to stick Daredevil in the ring with Thanos? I mean maybe if you were Kingpin and absolutely hated Daredevil.

 

[seahammer]

ANOTHER Marvel show? Wow! And if they already have a name attached, it must be a pretty sure thing. Nice.

 

[kedrell]

I'm thinking She-Hulk.

 

[MarvelFan]

I've finally got and read this book 😆😆 so excited to know the story between CA: WS and A: AoU. Also, given I'm not grew up reading Marvel Comics like most of post-ers here...I'm surprised to read the classic Ultron story added in this book......😄

 

[Matt Mortem]

Blade, Moon Knight or Cloak and Dagger are my guesses.

I'd love if it was Moon Knight, but at the same time don't want it to be. I need Marvel to give me time to get my career off the ground so I can make Moon Knight for them. t:

 

[Omarion786]

Hey Everyone!

If you're planning on Marathoning the Marvel movies, I've created a really cool way to watch them the way they were meant to be watched!

I made two 8 hour movies that include all Films from the MCU and they are in CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER!


Meaning: All the movies have been woven together to match the MCU Timeline!

The first video is of Fury’s Big week, which doesn’t include Iron Man (2008) but there is a link to download it in the Read Me :P There are also a couple of Marvel One Shots Included!


The second video is basically, Iron Man 3 meshed with Thor 2 and Cap 2 Meshed with Guardians, but watching it is UNREAL!

Here are the links:

Phase 1:

https://kickass.to/marvel-mega-cut-phase-1-fury-s-big-week-t10526207.html

Phase 2:

https://kickass.to/marvel-mega-cut-phase-2-intro-to-infinity-t10526223.html



It's a really cool view and although they're each 10GB, it's a very different opportunity to watch the MCU films the way they were supposed to be watched!



Trust me, IT’S AWESOME!!!

Cheers!

 

[Shakel92]

I've updated my personal MCU chronology. Please feel free to review and comment. This is a constantly changing document, and an extra set of eyes can help a lot.

I think that DD and the first half of Season 2 of AoS are interwoven. Therefore, I clumped together story arcs together, which means that if an episode ends on a cliffhanger the next episode immediately follows it, then those two are together. I based it upon observable items, such as conversations (Karen Page mentioned in the first DD ep. that things have changed in the last two years since The Event. This means it probably occurs in the summer of 2014. However, by episode 13 the characters are wearing warm clothes and you can see their breath. That means it is cold (It was filmed in December of 2014, after all). AoS was a bit trickier. The last couple of ep's. of the first half kind of run together. So I just plugged them all together. Again, please review and comment.

MCU Chronology
• Captain America: The First Avenger
• Agent Carter
o Now is Not the End
o Bridge and Tunnel
o Time and Tide
o The Blitzkrieg Button
o The Iron Ceiling
o A Sin to Err
o Snafu
o Valediction
• Agent Carter (Marvel One-Shot)
• Iron Man
• Iron Man 2
• The Incredible Hulk
• A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to Thor’s Hammer (Marvel One-Shot)
• Thor
• The Consultant (Marvel One-Shot)
• Captain America: The First Avenger (last few minutes)
• The Avengers
• Item 47 (Marvel One-Shot)
• Iron Man 3
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season One)
o Pilot
o 0-8-4
o The Asset
o Eye-Spy
o Girl in the Flower Dress
o FZZT
o The Hub
• Thor: The Dark World
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season One)
o The Well
o Repairs
o The Bridge
o The Magical Place
• All Hail The King (Marvel One-Shot)
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season One)
o Seeds
o T.R.A.C.K.S.
o T.A.H.I.T.I.
o Yes Men
o End of the Beginning
• Captain America: The Winter Soldier
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season One)
o Turn, Turn, Turn
o Providence
o The Only Light in the Darkness
o Nothing Personal
o Ragtag
o Beginning of the End
• Guardians of the Galaxy
• Daredevil (Season One)
o Into The Ring
o Cut Man
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o Shadows
o Heavy is the Head
• Daredevil (Season One)
o Rabbit In a Snow Storm
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o Making Friends and Influencing People
o Face My Enemy
• Daredevil (Season One)
o In The Blood
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o A Hen in the Wolf House
o A Fractured House
• Daredevil (Season One)
o World on Fire
o Condemned
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o The Writing on the Wall
• Daredevil (Season One)
o Stick
o Shadows in the Glass
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o The Things We Bury
o Ye Who Enter Here
o What They Become
• Daredevil (Season One)
o Speak of the Devil
o Nelson v. Murdock
o The Path of the Righteous
o The Ones We Leave Behind
o Daredevil
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o Aftershocks
o Who You Really Are
o One of Us
o Love in the Time of Hydra
o One Door Closes
o Afterlife
o Melinda
o The Frenemy of my enemy
o The Dirty Half Dozen
• Avengers: Age of Ultron
• Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (Season Two)
o Scars
o S.O.S. Part One
o S.O.S. Part Two


Upcoming:

Ant-Man (July 17)

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 (episodes 1-10 Fall)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin off?????
AKA Jessica Jones (Netflix - November)???????????????


2016
Agent Carter season 2??????
John Ridley’s Series???????
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3 (episodes 11-22)
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. spin off???????
Captain America: Civil War (May 6, 2016)
Daredevil season 2 (April???)
Luke Cage (Netflix - May)
Dr. Strange (November 4, 2016)
Iron Fist (Netflix - November)

2017
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 (May 5, 2017)
The Defenders (Netflix - May)
Spider-Man (July 28, 2017)
Thor: Ragnarok (November 3, 2017)

2018
Avengers: Infinity War Part I (May 4, 2018)
Black Panther (July 6, 2018)
Captain Marvel (November 2, 2018)


2019
Avengers: Infinity War Part II (May 3, 2019)
Inhumans (July 22, 2019)

Moving forward, it is next to impossible to guess at this point what the plans are for ABC next season. I read that ABC will announce everything in three weeks, so expect an update then.

 

[Hyde]

Good work man.

 

[SlamAdams]

Shouldn't the Consultant be before Incredible Hulk. It was where Coulson plans to send Stark to bother Gen. Ross so that he doesn't hand over Abomination

 

[Loki882]

No, it takes place after TIH. Gen. Ross is in charge of Abomination's imprisonment (which happens after Hulk chokes him out during the Harlem fight and then spares him at Betty's pleading). The WSC wants Abomination released to join the Avengers Initiative and both Fury and Coulson realize how stupid that idea is.

 

[Shakel92]

Shouldn't the Consultant be before Incredible Hulk. It was where Coulson plans to send Stark to bother Gen. Ross so that he doesn't hand over Abomination

I think that technically, The Consultant would take place DURING The Incredible Hulk, but good eyes.

 

[Silvermoon]

Shouldn't the Consultant be before Incredible Hulk. It was where Coulson plans to send Stark to bother Gen. Ross so that he doesn't hand over Abomination

No - because the bulk of The Incredible Hulk happens before the events of The Consultant do.

This is why the overlap between The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2 and Thor (with them all taking place pretty much during the same time frame/the same week at least) and likewise that also includes the respective one-shots that associate with them ("A Funny Thing Happened" and "The Consultant") can kind of make things tricky 'ordering' wise. I mean, in The Consultant the diner that Coulson and Sitwell are meeting in looks to be in a desert location, so it's likely in New Mexico while they're dealing with the mysterious hammer situation (but probably before the culmination of events with the Destroyer arriving and laying waste). They obviously have that conversation after the bulk of events of TIH (because Ross has Abomination and the destruction of Harlem happened) but before the scene with Stark at the bar at the end. Those three films are just kind of an overlapping mess

 

[mace1]

The new marvel show called powers is hardcore RATED R BY THE WAY.It's from marvel but not a mcu tv show.



Powers (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.2/10


Powers: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
Rating: 50%
Average Rating: 5.5/10
Audience
67%
LIKED IT
Average rating: 3.8/10



TV VS MOVIES
The marvel and dc tv shows tend to have stronger stories and stronger character
development then dc and marvel movies.
If you look at the critics and audience ratings for the tv shows and
movies, tv is better rated.
So anyone says that movies are better then tv are just really
committed mostly or only to movies and they have brainwashed
themselves to believing that movies are better so they don't have to
watch the tv shows.
If movies are your thing first,fine,but don't be delusional people.
Tv on average is doing a better job.



Agents of shield had a great first season and anyone that says no,do not know what they are talking about because i seen the FIRST season recently.


Now compare the movie and tv ratings.


Remember for TOMATOMETER and AUDIENCE

55% to 64%- means good/ 3 stars
65% to 74%- means very good/ 3 1/2 stars
75% and up is great to excellent/4 stars to 5 stars

For imdb
5.5 to 6.4/10- means good/ 3 stars
6.5 to 7.4/10- means very good/ 3 1/2 stars
7.5/10 and up is great to excellent/4 stars to 5 stars




Overall Marvel/DC Rotten Tomatoes Ratings (Highest to Lowest)



Spider-Man 2 / The Dark Knight (94%)
Iron Man / Superman (93%)
The Avengers / Guardians of the Galaxy (92%)
X-Men: Days of Future Past (91%)
Superman II / Spider-Man / Captain America: The Winter Soldier (89%)
The Dark Knight Rises (88%)
X2: X-Men United / X-Men: First Class (87%)
Batman Begins (85%)
X-Men (82%)
Batman Returns (81%)
Captain America: The First Avenger (79%)
Iron Man 3 (78%)
Thor (77%)

Superman Returns (76%)
The Amazing Spider-Man / Iron Man 2 (73%)
Batman (71%)
The Wolverine (69%)
The Incredible Hulk (67%)
Thor: The Dark World / Watchmen (65%)
Spider-Man 3 (63%)
Hulk (62%)
Blade II (59%)
X-Men: The Last Stand (57%)
Man of Steel (56%)
Blade (55%)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (53%)
Daredevil (45%)
Batman Forever (41%)
X-Men Origins: Wolverine (38%)
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer (37%)
The Punisher (29%)
Fantastic Four / Punisher: War Zone (27%)
Ghost Rider / Blade: Trinity / Green Lantern / Superman III (26%)
Ghost Rider: Spirit of Vengeance (18%)
Batman & Robin / Jonah Hex (12%)
Elektra (10%)
Catwoman / Superman IV: The Quest for Peace (9%)



AND

Arrow: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
Arrow: Season 1 (2012-2013)
TOMATOMETER
86%
AUDIENCE SCORE
88%
Liked it

Arrow: Season 2 (2013-2014)
TOMATOMETER
100%
AUDIENCE SCORE
94%
Liked it


Arrow: Season 3 (2014-2015)
TOMATOMETER
100%
AUDIENCE SCORE
94%
Liked it



Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
86%
AUDIENCE SCORE
72%
Liked it




Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 2 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
92%
AUDIENCE SCORE
87%
Liked it



Marvel's Agent Carter: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
97%
AUDIENCE SCORE
89%
Liked it



Constantine: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
72%
AUDIENCE SCORE
91%



The Flash: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
96%
AUDIENCE SCORE
89%
Liked it





Gotham: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
90%
AUDIENCE SCORE
80%
Liked it



Other ratings


The Flash (TV Series 2014– ) - IMDb
Rating: 8.2/10

Arrow (TV Series 2012– ) - IMDb
Rating: 8.2/10


Constantine (TV Series 2014– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.7/10


Gotham (TV Series 2014– ) - IMDb
Rating: 8.1/10



Agents of SHIELD - IMDb
Rating: 7.5/10


Agent Carter (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb
Rating: 8.4/10


Other marvel and dc shows

Powers: Season 1 (2015)
TOMATOMETER
50%
AUDIENCE SCORE
64%
Liked it



Powers (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.3/10



iZombie (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb
Rating: 8/10


iZombie: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
91%
AUDIENCE SCORE
80%
Liked it



These may change later
Daredevil (TV Series 2015– ) - IMDb
Rating: 9.2/10
This was a 9.6/10 before.


These may change later
Marvel's Daredevil: Season 1 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
98%
AUDIENCE SCORE
97%
Liked it





Updates
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Season 2 - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
94%
Average rating

Constantine (TV Series 2014– ) - IMDb
Rating: 7.6/10




Thor: The Dark World - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
Rating: 66%
AUDIENCE SCORE
Liked it
78%

The Incredible Hulk - Rotten Tomatoes
TOMATOMETER
Rating: 67%
AUDIENCE SCORE
Liked it
72%


The Incredible Hulk (2008) - IMDb
Rating: 6.9/10

Thor: The Dark World (2013) - IMDb
Rating: 7.1/10

 

[mace1]

Marvel Cinematic Universe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series - Wikipedia





List of Marvel Cinematic Universe films - Wikipedia, the free ...



List of television series based on Marvel Comics - Wikipedia ...





List of television series based on DC Comics - Wikipedia ...

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I wouldnt really count that as a marvel show.

 

[mace1]

I wouldnt really count that as a marvel show.

It's marvel show like izombie is a dc show but it's not a mcu tv show,but it's on the marvel list for tv shows like men in black is on the marvel list for movies or a history of violence is on the dc list for movies.

Powers is an American online streaming series adaptation of the Powers comic book series published by Marvel Comics under their Icon Comics imprint. The PlayStation Network's first scripted original programming, the series premiered on March 10, 2015. The first two episodes of the series were written by Charlie Huston and directed by David Slade. The first three episodes were released on March 10, 2015 on the PlayStation Network. The pilot episode is available for free on YouTube and Crackle.

Powers (comics), an American creator-owned comic book series by Brian Michael Bendis and Michael Avon Oeming

Powers (PlayStation Network TV series), a PlayStation Network series, based on the comics, originally for FX Network.

 

[seahammer]

You know who I'd like to see somewhere in the MCU? The High Evolutionary.

He has ties to lots of characters (first appeared in a Thor comic!) and is a sort of all around "villain" (although he is more of a morally ambiguous antagonist who could go either way...) who could appear in almost anyone's film. I guess of the current MCU characters, he fits best with Wanda, and if her backstory is ever explored he could be part of that.

I wonder if there is a Mount Wundagore in Sokovia?

 

[Dr. Evil]

General Ross is back in the MCU.

 

[seahammer]

General Ross is back in the MCU.

Yeah, that's great news! I liked Hurt in the role, and hopefully his inclusion will make TIH feel less like the forgotten son of the MCU.