Modern Warfare 3 reveal in 5 days - Part 1

[Darthphere]

Actually it does. Because it's so popular other games are being cannibalized to be like it. Crysis 2, more linear, multiplayer is basically Call Of Duty. Xcom, a game that involved thinking, wasn't even a FPS to begin with is now press X to win. Syndicate, press X to win. Battlefield 3 (which actually used unlocks first) is now an unlock and primarily more interested in giving you as many items and unlocks as possible than it is at being a team game. Crappy medicore 5 hour SP chucked in. Exactly like Call Of Duty. Skyrim, pretty much any deph was there gone. Now just a bunch of perks. It also is primarily the practitioner of selling map packs for quarter the price of a full game. Releasing addtional content on a platform well before others. Adding a price point onto a game above other games because they know it's a "hot seller". Basically, Call Of Duty, and anything to do with Call Of Duty, is bad.

Pretty much.

 

[Electro UK]

I think he's taking it a bit too far, but I agree with Spock here.

Modern Warfare 3, don't get me wrong, is fine for it's audience. It appeals to people that don't have a lot of time to play games and want an unchallenging, fast-paced experience. It's basically the video game equivalent of junk food. And that's cool, I'm all for there being the kind of game that caters to that market while I carry on playing Dark Souls and Yakuza 4 etc.

But much like how the Wii has made Sony and MS waste time and resources with Kinect and Move, the game's success has had a negative impact on the wider shooter market. Like Spock says, there's a completely unnecessary, completely forgettable 5-hour campaign slapped on Battlefield 3 because DICE want to go toe-to-toe with that game and want a comparable feature list. Back when Battlefield 2 was fresh out I bet DICE would have laughed at the idea of a tacky SP in Battlefield 3 but Call of Duty single handedly changed all of that. Heck, I don't know if BF3 would even be on consoles if it weren't for Modern Warfare.

THQ basically copied and pasted CoD into the meh-fest that is Homefront. As Spock said, Crysis 2 was a far more dumbed down experience so that the mass market could relate. Resistance 2 suffered massively from trying to copy the formula. The Killzone franchise went back to being a complete joke with 3 thanks to Guerrilla effectively copy and pasting MW into their game. You can blame the useless multiplayer modes found in Dead Space 2 and the rest on CoD's success too.

I haven't gotten my hands on Skyrim yet so I'm not sure I agree with him there, but the negative impact of Call of Duty's success can unmistakably be seen across the rest of the industry.

 

[Darthphere]

No, the failure comes from game studios trying to emulate something that is highly successful instead of coming up with new and original ideas and in doing so breeding new success.

 

[Matt Mortem]

COD is not at fault for this trend. They do what they do, others copy. They aren't forcing other game companies to follow them and emulate them. COD is just doing what COD does.

 

[Darthphere]

Exactly.

 

[Electro UK]

Where did I say the failure was on CoD's head? I said that the negative impact of the game's success has been seen industry-wide which is undeniable. As I said, I'm all for Call of Duty and a shooter of mass market appeal.

It would obviously be ridiculous to blame CoD for other games trying to copy it. But it's phenomenal success has brought about the demise of other developers and franchises.

If I were to blame CoD for anything, it would be the game's own failure to innovate since the original Modern Warfare. Every campaign since has been a thrill-less remake of CoD4. It frustratingly has the safety net of addicting multiplayer and (my personal favorite) the brilliant Spec Ops mode to keep critics and consumers demanding a high standard of campaign.

Personally at this point I'd be much more interested in next year's edition if it was a multiplayer/co-op only experience. As industry leaders, the game's failure to innovate really at all in the past four entries is something incredibly disappointing.

 

[Paroxysm]

"Some people will like what the series offers, others won't, that's life."

 

[Rocketman]

All I know is, BLACK on PS2 is the greatest FPS of all-time.
These Call of Duty games are over hyped and overrated.

 

[AxlsAppetite]

Whatevs, MW3 is teh ish right now. Deal with it.

The underbarrel shotgun is a smelly piece of crap in this game. It's no good even in HC modes. At least in MW2 it had a really long range to make up for it's crap damage, which made it a delight to use in HC.

 

[jacobed]

Mw3 is phenomenal. Blaming other games shortcomings on Cod is pathetic and dumb but I suppose anything this successful is an easy target

 

[Spider-Vader]

I'm LOVING MW3.

The campaign was fantastic. It was a thrill ride from start to finish, the ending was SOOOO F***ING satisfying! I don't know where I'd rank it among the 3 games though, all 3 games had great campaigns.

Spec-ops is a HUGE improvement over MW2's. All of the missions I've played so far have been fun. Survival is also pretty cool.

Multiplayer so far has been awesome. I'm LOVING that explosives are nerfed & that killstreaks are much harder to get. I don't b**** about killstreaks anymore because people who get them actually deserve them now. The highest killstreak I usually see is the Predator Missile. Though, I'm finding alot of the guns outside the SMG class to be crappy. The only non-SMG I like so far is the M4A1.

 

[jacobed]

Have you tried the scar? Much improved from mw2

 

[AxlsAppetite]

The only improvement I see is that they increased the mag by 10 rounds, and that's only because this is the SCAR-L, not the SCAR-H.

All the ARs i've used have been great: M4, G36, ACR. I just unlocked the AK and that's been my go to gun since CoD4.

 

[Team Andino]

Seeing the Survival mode has greatly raised my interest in picking up MW3, I'm a big fan of those type of modes in games, I love Firefight in Halo and Horde in Gears. If I hadn't picked up the Harry Potter movie set yesterday I would of seriously considered getting this this weekend.

 

[jacobed]

It seems like the scar shoots faster and has a lower recoil

 

[Wolfwood]

I love that they added the support class for guys like me who can't avoid death. Helps me to be more beneficial to the team. Plus getting the Juggernaut outfit in MP is pretty fun, I had like 4 guys stabbing and shooting me to bring me down. It was a good laugh.

 

[The Riddler]

Have you tried the scar? Much improved from mw2

i haven't played mw3 yet, but if this is true, it's overpowered.

scar was incredible in mw2 (besides the small clip). i used scar exclusively pretty early on and i credit the gun for my 2.0 k/d ratio and 40+ killstreaks.

super excited to see how it is now.

 

[AxlsAppetite]

I love that they added the support class for guys like me who can't avoid death. Helps me to be more beneficial to the team. Plus getting the Juggernaut outfit in MP is pretty fun, I had like 4 guys stabbing and shooting me to bring me down. It was a good laugh.

I love the EMP. I use it when someone gets thier high killstreaks like Osprey Gunner or AC-130. So much fun.

i haven't played mw3 yet, but if this is true, it's overpowered.

scar was incredible in mw2 (besides the small clip). i used scar exclusively pretty early on and i credit the gun for my 2.0 k/d ratio and 40+ killstreaks.

super excited to see how it is now.

It's pretty much the same IMO. If anything they added a bit of recoil to it.



Can you hear the enemy you killed for about a second or two right after you killed them or is it just me?

 

[The Riddler]

It's pretty much the same IMO. If anything they added a bit of recoil to it.

just looked up the scar L in mw3. apparently it does less damage, shoots at a faster rate, and has a clip of 30 rather than 20 when compared to its counterpart in mw2.

that iron sight is still beautiful, and the the gun still has relatively low recoil. sounds like it's still a great gun.

 

[Donut]

There must be some server issues today. I have tried connecting to a few games with two friends & one friend was in a game entirely by himself & me & the other friend with some random dude were in our own party with no enemy team

 

[Spider-Vader]

Okay, I've unlocked the G36C it's pretty damn good. The ARs between the M4 & it suck though.

 

[Darthphere]

There must be some server issues today. I have tried connecting to a few games with two friends & one friend was in a game entirely by himself & me & the other friend with some random dude were in our own party with no enemy team

That happens to me all the time when I'm in a party. I think the servers just have a hard time putting more than 3 people in the same game so it freaks out.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Okay, I've unlocked the G36C it's pretty damn good. The ARs between the M4 & it suck though.

i beasted to level 30 with the type 93. I won't get the gold at 31 cause i'll want to keep it

 

[BrollySupersj]

Just finished the game now. Awesome stuff.

Though....

Spoiler

Was Soap's death truth necessary? I mean can't we keep more than ONE character? I'm glad Price made it to the end, but after losing Ghost, Gaz, and Roach, did they really need to kill Soap? I thought it was a low blow.

 

[Donut]

That happens to me all the time when I'm in a party. I think the servers just have a hard time putting more than 3 people in the same game so it freaks out.

I was not in a party though. Especially since I am in the Fall Dashboard 2011 Beta Preview. It wont let me Party Chat. But I seem to be able to chat in game