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The Dark Knight More on the return of Rachel Dawes

I think that Rachael should come back. But the joker should have something to do with her exit. I suggest that since the joker already shoots sarah essen. He should do something different to rachael. Like drive her into insanity!
 
I'm indifferent either way. I thought Katie Holmes to her credit did a good job (primarily cause I had low expectations, her delivery on some lines was kinda weak but still). In terms of contiuity, yeah bring her back (if she wants) but if not at least give some sort of explination that is legible.
If she's out of the picture then I think having Selina Kyle in would be interesting (not as catwoman just as Selina Kyle).
 
COMPO said:
I think that Rachael should come back. But the joker should have something to do with her exit. I suggest that since the joker already shoots sarah essen. He should do something different to rachael. Like drive her into insanity!
Yes, easy way to get rid of pointless character/actress
and a good way to make the Joker seem more menacing and evil.
 
COMPO said:
I think that Rachael should come back. But the joker should have something to do with her exit. I suggest that since the joker already shoots sarah essen. He should do something different to rachael. Like drive her into insanity!


I agree Cruise for Joker Dammitt!
 
If Holmes does not want to return then i say NO to Dawes coming back. This is because, she cannot have a big part in the sequel, so casting another girl is so pointless.

However, at most i just want her mentioned. Infact i dont care if no-one ever mentions her again. But hopefully she will have left Gotham for some reason and Dent is the DA for the sequel.
 
Maybe it'd be cool to have Rachel's exit be an homage to one of the most remembered events in Bat-lore:

The Killing Joke.

Movie starts out:
You wouldn't even need to show the face of Rachel. Just have a woman reading by the lamp, her face poorly lit. doorbell rings or there's a knock at the door. She gets up, goes to the door, peers through the spyhole. Can't make out the shadowy figure on the other side. Opens door, there stands the evil grin of the Joker... BLAM. She's dead.

Next scene, Bruce hears the news and finds out it was the same elusive maniac he's been trying to get for the last few weeks/months.

Awesome way to inject instant tension/action/emotion and pure hatred for the Joker in a very very quick scene. Also sets the scene for the arrival of Dent.
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Ewww... she's kinda homely... strange choice, Attikus...
Don't you hate how he says it like its preordained fact?
 
Ronny Shade said:
Don't you hate how he says it like its preordained fact?

No. But I laugh at the way he says it like it's preordained fact. Kind of the same thing. But not.
 
I dont know about that, I could see Seinna Miller as Selina Kyle. If you seen Layer Cake you know what I mean. That chick is anything but homely besides your an actor your paid to act.
 
hey, in Batman: Year one Selina was a prozzie so how or did her and Bruce get together.
 
Two Face said:
Jolie for Selina dammit!!


BECKINSALE DAMNIT!.OH AND WHILE I AM AT IT:

BETTANY DAMNIT!

GYLENHAAL DAMNIT!

PHHILIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN DAMNIT!.

SORRY THE LURE OF THE ALL CAPS ALL,BIG FRIGGEN LETTERS IS TOO TEMPTING! HHAHHA
HAHAHHAHA!
HAHHAHAH!

I'LLL GET YOU CAPTAIN PLANET!.
 
bdsproductions said:
BECKINSALE DAMNIT!.OH AND WHILE I AM AT IT:

BETTANY DAMNIT!

GYLENHAAL DAMNIT!

PHHILIP SEYMOUR HOFFMAN DAMNIT!.

SORRY THE LURE OF THE ALL CAPS ALL,BIG FRIGGEN LETTERS IS TOO TEMPTING! HHAHHA
HAHAHHAHA!
HAHHAHAH!

I'LLL GET YOU CAPTAIN PLANET!.
Do yourself a favor and Shut up. :o
 
Keyser Sushi said:
Whoo-hoo! The Guard is here... and The Guard is... correct. :up:


I've been saying pretty much the samething as what Guard just said.....where is my props?? sheesh.....:confused:
 
Dark Knight said:
I've been saying pretty much the samething as what Guard just said.....where is my props?? sheesh.....:confused:

You aren't The Guard so it doesnt count. The Guard could say the most ridiculous thing and it wont matter because the manner in which he says it forces you to believe what he says. There is no poster I fear or respect more.

*Raises Glass* To The Guard!
 
StorminNorman said:
You aren't The Guard so it doesnt count. The Guard could say the most ridiculous thing and it wont matter because the manner in which he says it forces you to believe what he says. There is no poster I fear or respect more.

*Raises Glass* To The Guard!



LOL....agreed.....however, Guard can be a wild man sometimes as well.....:confused:
 
ragdus said:
Maybe it'd be cool to have Rachel's exit be an homage to one of the most remembered events in Bat-lore:

The Killing Joke.

Movie starts out:
You wouldn't even need to show the face of Rachel. Just have a woman reading by the lamp, her face poorly lit. doorbell rings or there's a knock at the door. She gets up, goes to the door, peers through the spyhole. Can't make out the shadowy figure on the other side. Opens door, there stands the evil grin of the Joker... BLAM. She's dead.

Next scene, Bruce hears the news and finds out it was the same elusive maniac he's been trying to get for the last few weeks/months.

Awesome way to inject instant tension/action/emotion and pure hatred for the Joker in a very very quick scene. Also sets the scene for the arrival of Dent.


there it is!
 
One thing I hated about Batman Returns is how they explained the Vivky Vale disappearance. I hope Holmes reprises, if at least for a cameo.
 
neemer5 said:
One thing I hated about Batman Returns is how they explained the Vivky Vale disappearance. I hope Holmes reprises, if at least for a cameo.

If Holmes doesn't return, I'd hope atleast that another actress replaces her. I don't want to see the character for forgotten about, without a proper explanation as to why she isn't in Gotham anymore. Jennifer Connelly was brought up as a possible replacement, which I wouldn't mind.
 
Batman said:
If Holmes doesn't return, I'd hope atleast that another actress replaces her. I don't want to see the character for forgotten about, without a proper explanation as to why she isn't in Gotham anymore. Jennifer Connelly was brought up as a possible replacement, which I wouldn't mind.

Recasting by itself is a bad idea, but recasting a minor role? It would just seem wierd recasting Rachel when she's not that important, and was given a decent farewell at the end of Begins. It's not like B'89 or BF, where the end makes you think they'll live happily ever after. They pretty much broke off any hope of a relationship at the end of Begins, so I dont see a reason for her to stick around unless it's for her to die.
 
Ditch her.

Bring in Selina Kyle or Pamela Isley.

Rachel Dawes was probably the worst part of "Batman Begins" and now that Katie Holmes is the slave to Tom Cruise don't expect her to be going back to work ever again under his tight leash. :spidey:
 

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