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Discussion in 'X-Men 1, 2 & 3' started by chaseter, Mar 22, 2006.
Bare hands, bare feet, hooded, that was (I think) his last costume before he turned furry.
yep! Sucks how Candy is such a biatch, breaking up with him just because he's hugging Jean as a friend, given all the grief with Scott.
Yup, it is. Hence the big, bare feet.
Yep, it is. What Halcohol said. Except its a little more complicated, he had turned blue (through self-experiments) after he left the original team (about 10 years our time before the Mutant Massacre). Then when they formed X-factor he was temporarily reverted back. He goes back to blue in X-factor 30 around there.
Thats the original Beast look, though. Its how he was for about 10 years.
Warren's better off without her.
And soon to be big BEAR feet HA count it.
On a roll tonight...
I thought mm was post furry Beast and that Havok had something to do with it.
god i hope this happens
Pretty convincing stuff in here that makes it looks like it will
*keeps his fingers crossed*
Mutant Massacre definitely inspiration here....but I see a bunch of Parrallels to Days of the Future Past
Hmmm... like what?
Well the Days storyline is often considered the last stand of the X-Men. The Major players are Wolverine, Storm, Phoenix, Magneto, Colossus and Kitty just like in Days (plus others). We may (or may not) have the introduction of the Sentinels and of course Trask. Also there is a political element in this movie that is prevelant in the Days storyline. Simply that the President is taking steps which seem to point towards more control and restrictions being placed on Mutants.
Furthermore we have several key deaths (possibly) that were marked by Days of the Future Past, namely Cyclops, Xavier and Jean Grey (maybe at the end). Leaving Wolverine and Storm to lead the remaining which again is concurent with Days.
It also is somewhat of an apocalyptic movie from what we have seen
In addition it was suggested before the Dark Phoenix/Cure storyline was written that they do Days of the Future Past in between then and the Phoenix's return. This did not come to pass, but its possible some of the ideas washed over into this film
Phoenix isn't a major player in Days of Future Past
In fact she's not even in it, it takes place 4 issues after her death on the moon... Kitty and Logan are the two main characters. Rachel is a big character too.
Ah, I guess you mean Rachel as Phoenix II?
Rachel Summers is the Phoenix III (Phoenix I is Baron Zemo)...no she was not the Phoenix then, but she is representitive of Jean....
Which Phoenix was involved during the mutant massacre?
Since there was no Excaliber tie in...no Phoenix was involved. Jean was involved in Mutant Massacre allong with the rest of X-Factor. However at that time not only was she NOT Phoenix, but it had been established that the Phoenix was an entirely separate entity who only took Jean's form during the Dark Phoenix/Phoenix Saga.
Who else besides Gambit and Sinister do we need to establish the mutant massacre thoroughly?
correction, even during the original retcon it was established that it merged with her soul and personality, thats what stopped it on the moon.
but yeah, I really hated that retcon. Thankfully things have changed.
Sabretooth, Marauders (under Sinister)...Gambit was NOT involved, that was retconned (so he could be involved but he only found where the Morlocks were hiding, that was all). Magneto was not involved except as a member of the X-Men. Sentinels were not involved, they were decomissioned at the time. A guy named Bezerker was somewhat important. Masque had a sizable role for a morlock. Caliban played a good sized part. Thor was a MAJOR player.
maybe the most famous image from Mutant Massacre, Angel getting pinned on the wall by Harpoon.
Yeah but was not the soul and personality established when she was a schizophrenic, that happened after Massacre.
ah, ok. wasn't sure of exactly when which element fell into place.