The Dark Knight Rises Nolan...add Robin!!!!!!

[BobJM]

I finally read Dark Victory and now I'm all for Robin being introduced into BB3. I'm sick of all this "unrealistic" and "campy" bull****. Robin is part of Batman comic book lore and has been for a long time.

If Nolan doesn't want to put him in, that's his choice as a director. But to rule out Robin completely is like saying no to a major part of the comics that first started this franchise.

 

[jed.exodus.89]

i think if robin were to b introduced in the next movie then he shouldnt b the main story. i dont think you should c him become robin in his first appearance and i think he shouldnt b aware of bruce wayne as batman until near or the end of the movie. it should focus on just building the relationship between bruce and dick and then the film should end with dick trainin under bruce after he fins out he is batman. this will then leave it in a gd place 2 introduce robin in the next movie

 

[nightwing2010]

I finally read Dark Victory and now I'm all for Robin being introduced into BB3. I'm sick of all this "unrealistic" and "campy" bull****. Robin is part of Batman comic book lore and has been for a long time.

If Nolan doesn't want to put him in, that's his choice as a director. But to rule out Robin completely is like saying no to a major part of the comics that first started this franchise.

i totally agree bob im so sick of hearing this unealistic campy crap as well, if i was some corny realist, i wouldnt be into superhero films! thats why its called suspension of DISBELIEF! you can look at the Professional, the Road to perdition,and V for Vendetta as ways to doing a batman and robin story serious, an Dark Victory and the 90s animated series Robin were not campy either and were done EXTREMLEY WELL!

 

[Pfeiffer-Pfan]

As long as it's done more like this:

As opposed to this...

Then I'm open to it!

 

[nightwing2010]

As long as it's done more like this:

As opposed to this...

Then I'm open to it!

LOL! thats my point the first picture above on Top is robin Done well! its from the emmy winning episodes Robin's reckoning, where they falshback to robin's origin, it was done masterfully, Beautifull and Completely SERIOUS!

 

[nightwing2010]

As long as it's done more like this:

As opposed to this...

Then I'm open to it!

LOL! thats my point the first picture above on Top is robin Done well! its from the emmy winning episodes Robin's reckoning, where they falshback to robin's origin, it was done masterfully, Beautifully and Completely SERIOUS!

 

[The Shadow]

Yes. It would be great to have Robin in a film like the Robin we see in BTAS. I don't think thats too much to ask of nolan. He is essential to Batman.

 

[nightwing2010]

Yes. It would be great to have Robin in a film like the Robin we see in BTAS. I don't think thats too much to ask of nolan. He is essential to Batman.

exactly it was completely devoid of camp! and the only wise cracks that were made were on the same level as lucius and Bruce, and Alfred and bruce in the Nolan films!

 

[The Shadow]

So, why doesn't Nolan put him in. I mean sure they had problem's with Robin in the first Franchise and a big problem with the camp-robin, but the actual Robin character isn't that bad if he is interpreted right.

 

[GL1]

So, why doesn't Nolan put him in. I mean sure they had problem's with Robin in the first Franchise and a big problem with the camp-robin, but the actual Robin character isn't that bad if he is interpreted right.

Same reason that people jump in these threads and chant 'No Robin' ignorantly. Some people just have an irrational reaction to the Robin character.

 

[El Payaso]

LOL! thats my point the first picture above on Top is robin Done well! its from the emmy winning episodes Robin's reckoning, where they falshback to robin's origin, it was done masterfully, Beautifully and Completely SERIOUS!

I think Robin was done there masterfully, Beautifully and Completely ANIMATED! Which of course takes away the whole set of problems you could have in a real action movie.

Not only the camp factor is in the game, but the Batman as a parent and Batman taking a kid to the streets issues.

 

[nightwing2010]

I think Robin was done there masterfully, Beautifully and Completely ANIMATED! Which of course takes away the whole set of problems you could have in a real action movie.

Not only the camp factor is in the game, but the Batman as a parent and Batman taking a kid to the streets issues.

that excuse holds no water, Road to perdition, there was no camp, in the professional(no camp) in V for Vendetta(no camp)

 

[spidey207]

I still think Burton had roughly the right idea; that being IF Dick Grayson were to be Bruce's helper, he'd be more of a mechanic and work in the bat cave rather than be out fighting by his side, at least at first.

I'm not really bias either way, maybe a little against Robin of anything. But I think he could work but i certainly wouldn't introduce him in the 3rd. That will likely be Nolan's last bat-flick and his trilogy will be concluded. If the franchise is successful enough and the right people are involved, THEN they can introduce him as an adolescent mechanic in the 4th and have him be full fledge Robin by the end of the 5th(thats assuming they would be making a 2nd trilogy, which is a lot to assume, i know.) thats how i see Robin working

 

[spidey207]

I still think Burton had roughly the right idea; that being IF Dick Grayson were to be Bruce's helper, he'd be more of a mechanic and work in the bat cave rather than be out fighting by his side, at least at first.

I'm not really bias either way, maybe a little against Robin of anything. But I think he could work but i certainly wouldn't introduce him in the 3rd. That will likely be Nolan's last bat-flick and his trilogy will be concluded. If the franchise is successful enough and the right people are involved, THEN they can introduce him as an adolescent mechanic in the 4th and have him be full fledge Robin by the end of the 5th(thats assuming they would be making a 2nd trilogy, which is a lot to assume, i know.) thats how i see Robin working

 

[Keyser Soze]

Same reason that people jump in these threads and chant 'No Robin' ignorantly. Some people just have an irrational reaction to the Robin character.

I think people just being totally close-minded and saying "No no no Robin could NEVER work in a film no no no" are somewhat irrational, yes. But you have to admit that the people who are demanding both Christopher Nolan and Christian Bale - two of the key elements in the successful revival of Batman on film - be removed from the franchise so that Robin can be brought in, are at least equally irrational.

 

[spideyman101]

I, for one, have nothing against Robin... if he was done not as campish and had a better background, and had a darker colored costume... and... well... was Nightwing instead of Robin... I'd just be content if he was just living with Bruce as his apprentice or something.

But, as many others have said. Nolan doesn't want him in his series... for good reason. Nolan is directing Bruce in his younger days. And he'll most likely keep doing so until he gives the series over to someone else. Then by that time maybe they'll have Bruce in his 40's and invite Dick Grayson as a character. But right now I think it's more of a time issue for Nolan more than the fact that he "hates him"...

 

[Gilpesh]

Come on people... do you really want Nolan to pull a Spider-man 3 by having to throw in a character to appease fanboys?

 

[Nightwing1977]

I'd like to see Robin done properly but if Nolan doesn't want him, then don't force him to.

Same here. Let Nolan make his film. If you all complain too much & he listen to your demand or WB force him, it will ruin the film. Some forgot about Spider-Man 3.

As long as it's done more like this:

Batman got wood!

 

[jed.exodus.89]

Same here. Let Nolan make his film. If you all complain too much & he listen to your demand or WB force him, it will ruin the film. Some forgot about Spider-Man 3.



Batman got wood!

funnyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[Nepenthes]

People who say Robin is automatically gay and silly are not admitting that Batman himself is much in the same scenario. He travelled the world looking for teachers, but what if Batman had someone more stable to help him when he was 16 or 17, instead of having to do it all himself? He would have been turned out much differently and that's how I think of Robin, it's why he doesn't have the same personal issues. Robin is just another Batman himself. It's not gay that Batman would reach out to someone like that. Bruce Wayne is a man of compassion and well as practicality. In a very selfish way the partnership helps himself feel more complete and balanced. But it also helps a young man who may otherwise become a danger to himself or to others, and critically, it helps THE MISSION. And we all know that Batman goes to amazing lengths for the mission. Robin is the opposite of silly it's in fact perfectly logical. And a guy who wears a bright rainbow of colours while he beats the **** out of you and your friends? That is not gay at all, it's actually very macho.

 

[NoirMan82]

I think Robin was done there masterfully, Beautifully and Completely ANIMATED! Which of course takes away the whole set of problems you could have in a real action movie.

Not only the camp factor is in the game, but the Batman as a parent and Batman taking a kid to the streets issues.

I don't think it matters if it was animated. I actually shed a tear when I first watched Robin's Reckoning. I don't think I've ever done that with a live action movie, certainly not a superhero movie. It's all because those episodes came from a very human place and made you care about Dick as a person. Anyone who plans on adapting Robin would be well served to use this work as inspiration.

 

[El Payaso]

that excuse holds no water, Road to perdition, there was no camp, in the professional(no camp) in V for Vendetta(no camp)

In Road to Perdition they were father and son, in The Professional there was a romantic innuendo going on that supported the relationship. Plus he was a criminal not a full-time crimefighter.

I, for one, have nothing against Robin... if he was done not as campish and had a better background, and had a darker colored costume... and... well... was Nightwing instead of Robin...

I understand the feeling. The less Robin Robin is, the better. It makes you wonder why insert the character in the first place.

I'd just be content if he was just living with Bruce as his apprentice or something.

I still can’t see Batman opening a crimefighting academy. Now with a Batman beyond scenario it could work. Batman’s too old to keep it on so he decides to have a successor.

I don't think it matters if it was animated.

It makes all the difference in the world. That’s why Batman works with blue/grey tights in animation but in movies he needs a black armored suit.

I actually shed a tear when I first watched Robin's Reckoning. I don't think I've ever done that with a live action movie, certainly not a superhero movie. It's all because those episodes came from a very human place and made you care about Dick as a person. Anyone who plans on adapting Robin would be well served to use this work as inspiration.

I don’t diminish the power of animation. I say it’s a totally different thing, specially at the time to adapt certain characters.

 

[batmaluco]

I still can’t see Batman opening a crimefighting academy. Now with a Batman beyond scenario it could work. Batman’s too old to keep it on so he decides to have a successor.

Hi, Payaso, long time no see.

100% agreed. That's the way I see Robin working really well.
Batman knowing that his fight wouldn't ever finish, but his life is ending, having a sucessor, etc.

 

[nightwing2010]

el payaso your a fool though, and you dont really know the character of, robin, when u make stupid idiotic , statements like, the less robin is robin, the better, when u go back to the root and origin of robin to the first issue where he appeared HIS CHARACTER WAS NEVER CAMPY! it was Tragic , he was Bruce;s mirror image, and bruce felt inside llike he was obligated to take him in, because in a way it was Like Going back in Time and saving himself!!! is a grayson a lighter character ?yes , and theres nothing wrong with that ,HE'S batman's balance and keeps him from going over the EDGE! BUT HES NOT A CAMPY One, get OVER THE ****ING ADAM WEST SHOW ALREADY!!!

 

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