The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in Los Angeles - Part 2

[Avengers-Report]

Just meet up with fellow a Hypester, user name H harold?

Is stuff still going on?

 

[bosef982]

Ranty rant rant.

They should get over them selfs, I'm not taking paparazzi pics, I have a horrible cell camera I'm just a curious die hard fan/a lookie lue nothing more. I'm not gonna sell photos or anything like that.

It's not about selling. It's about obstructing production if you get hurt, or if you drop your phone, or any other thing that can happen.

You're not owed anything here, not even this movie. You're owed nothing until you plop down 20 bucks next summer to see a good movie.

 

[bosef982]

Of all people, you should know that you have to do crap work especially in Hollywood. If im gonna do crap work, then make mine a Nolan film. Don't judge them till you try to actually get work when you're done with school.

Dude, ignore him. These are the types of kids that come into a general meeting, or show us their short, or reel, or whatever, and as soon as they sit in the room, they start talking like they're ready to sit behind a camera and make the next great feature. And we listen, maybe even pay for the Starbucks coffee on the lot, and then we go back about our business and find someone who's paid their dues and appreciates what's being offered to them to give a chance to.

He would not know. Let the post film school reality check hit him. Then he'll know. He said it himself. He's a 20-year-old film school student. Things'll change.

 

[Octoberist]

So of all people how would I know? You contradict yourself in 3 short sentences.

Contidict what? I'm not trying to insult you.

I'm talking about you because you're at one of the best film schools in the country. As a film major you should know that you're gonna have to get crappy jobs and pay your dues especially in a rough biz like Hollywood. If you got a job as an editor for a crappy production company or a mail clerk, hey it's another job until you get something better.

But to say that these PA's are freelance losers is puzzling because if you're given a chance to get hired for this flick, you jump at te opportunity.

 

[Avengers-Report]

It's not about selling. It's about obstructing production if you get hurt, or if you drop your phone, or any other thing that can happen.

You're not owed anything here, not even this movie. You're owed nothing until you plop down 20 bucks next summer to see a good movie.

Wrong. As a citizen of LA that pays an incredible amount in taxes to the city I have to right to walk on any public street I want. When I have PAs lying and yelling to me that I do not have the right to walk on a sidewalk when I clearly do is something that obstructs my right as a tax paying citizen and proceeds to show their ignorance.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Are they still there? I'm about to leave.

They are filming under the bridge some dialog scenes but still I can't see anything. I think I'm out.

 

[Avengers-Report]

Contidict what? I'm not trying to insult you.

I'm talking about you because you're at one of the best film schools in the country. As a film major you should know that you're gonna have to get crappy jobs and pay your dues especially in a rough biz like Hollywood. If you got a job as an editor for a crappy production company or a mail clerk, hey it's another job until you get something better.

But to say that these PA's are freelance losers is puzzling because if you're given a chance to get hired for this flick, you jump at te opportunity.

You said of all people I should know, then proceeded to end with you will find out when you enter Hollywood. Very strong counter arguments.

And ya, these guys are trying to make it big. But most of the people I have meet are incredibly rude and egotistical. They treat their job as if they are actually part of the set and are so high and mighty. They also take it way to seriously and abuse their power.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Wrong. As a citizen of LA that pays an incredible amount in taxes to the city I have to right to walk on any public street I want. When I have PAs lying and yelling to me that I do not have the right to walk on a sidewalk when I clearly do is something that obstructs my right as a tax paying citizen and proceeds to show their ignorance.

This.

 

[bosef982]

Wrong. As a citizen of LA that pays an incredible amount in taxes to the city I have to right to walk on any public street I want. When I have PAs lying and yelling to me that I do not have the right to walk on a sidewalk when I clearly do is something that obstructs my right as a tax paying citizen and proceeds to show their ignorance.

You know how the gov't can condimen a building and then you're trespassing. Can you walk into a public library after it's closed? Or a post office? Can you drive down a road once it's been closed? When someone wants to film on the street ouside my house in LA, can I stop them because I pay taxes?

No. Not at all. Don't get swept up in the illusion of "I pay taxes and so I own this." Has no legal basis at all. When the studios gets permission and signs contrast with LA county, LA county is effectively granting them permission to restrict access to that location.

 

[Octoberist]

Dude, ignore him. These are the types of kids that come into a general meeting, or show us their short, or reel, or whatever, and as soon as they sit in the room, they start talking like they're ready to sit behind a camera and make the next great feature. And we listen, maybe even pay for the Starbucks coffee on the lot, and then we go back about our business and find someone who's paid their dues and appreciates what's being offered to them to give a chance to.

He would not know. Let the post film school reality check hit him. Then he'll know. He said it himself. He's a 20-year-old film school student. Things'll change.

I was a film major and had a job in Echo Park till the company went down. But yeah during school I learned that film majors are an interesting bunch. but man, once I saw stuff for myself, I was humbled, haha.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Yeah, this discussion isn't going to turn out well.

 

[bosef982]

I was a film major and had a job in Echo Park till the company went down. But yeah during school I learned that film majors are an interesting bunch. but man, once I saw stuff for myself, I was humbled, haha.

As was I, I graduated from an East Coast school that ranks in the top 5, I came out here and honestly, I have been flipping' BLESSED with the internships I got that then lead me to jobs with idols and that now lead to my current job, which ties together things that I learned and people I met from both my previous jobs and internships.

Like, I am flipping' blessed and I am nowhere CLOSE to where I want to be, but I'm humbled and blessed and will never complain. People who are making it big out here usually go through a TON of **** -- and yes, a few don't -- but most do and it's that TON of **** that makes them good at what they do.

Go back a page and read what i wrote about some of the producers and execs on some comic book movies and where they started...it's insane.

 

[Seen]

I don't want to get involved here, but I thought I would chime in and offer my two cents. I've worked as a production assistant on a few feature-length films and documentaries and I will say that being a production assistant is probably the most difficult or physically arduous job on a film set and usually you are the least appreciated. I remember being a production assistant on a documentary and the director of cinematography couldn't even remember my name, but that's part of the business.

He probably works with tons of production assistants in the span of the entire months-long shoot, so why should he have to remember my name, especially when he has a 12 hour day ahead of him and a week that has been packed with 12-14 hour days, and a grueling three-month shoot ahead of him.

I've had friends who have worked as production assistants on The Dark Knight, and I've heard stories about how regular bystanders had a total lack of respect for them when they were trying to preserve and maintain the integrity of what Nolan was doing. I think this is a matter of perspective here. As someone who has worked as a production assistant in the past, I have a huge amount of respect for them. When I was an extra on The Dark Knight Rises this past month in Pittsburgh I encountered some of the production assistants who had to coral and deal with over 10,000 extras, and when they told me something or offered instructions, I listened and obeyed. These guys are regular, hard-working people just like anyone else. They deserve the same amount of respect you should offer somebody you encounter at Starbucks or Wal-Mart.

Then again, that's just my interpretation.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah, this discussion isn't going to turn out well.

Haha sorry going off tangent!

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Yeah, this discussion isn't going to turn out well.

Yeah and really this discussion doesn't belong in this thread to begin with. So I'll stop now.

 

[bosef982]

I don't want to get involved here, but I thought I would chime in and offer my two cents. I've worked as a production assistant on a few feature-length films and documentaries and I will say that being a production assistant is probably the most difficult or physically arduous job on a film set and usually you are the least appreciated. I remember being a production assistant on a documentary and the director of cinematography couldn't even remember my name, but that's part of the business.

He probably works with tons of production assistants in the span of the entire months-long shoot, so why should he have to remember my name, especially when he has a 12 hour day ahead of him and a week that has been packed with 12-14 hour days, and a grueling three-month shoot ahead of him.

I've had friends who have worked as production assistants on The Dark Knight, and I've heard stories about how regular bystanders have a total lack of respect for them when they were trying to preserve and maintain the integrity of what Nolan was doing. I think this is a matter of perspective here. As someone who has worked as a production assistant in the past, I have a huge amount of respect for them. When I was an extra on The Dark Knight Rises this past month in Pittsburgh I encountered some of the production assistants who had to coral and deal with over 10,000 extras, and when they told me something or offered instructions, I listened and obeyed. These guys are regular, hard-working people just like anyone else. They deserve the same amount of respect you should offer somebody you encounter at Starbucks or Wal-Mart.

Then again, that's just my interpretation.

You know what's funny though. For all peoples perception of this or that person being a dick or this or that, I've come to realize that when I need something from someone above me in the chain, or when I need favor or a networking opportunity, one simple truth retains;

Be honest. Be polite. Be respectful.

Do those three things, and you could get a PA to probably dish out details on TDKR. But conversely, another simple truth I've learned is that if you want to be unemployed out here and get nothing, and be laughed and scoffed at:

Be insincere. Be stubborn. Act entitled.


Honestly, if he'd just gone, "oh sorry dude, just really excited for this. Know you're busy, but like where's a cool place for me to hang that's cool with you guys. I just want to see what's going on." The PA would've directed to a place and maybe even struck up a conversation with him. Some may not; yes, some are *****. But better err on kindness...

Hell, I remember talking my way into a private notes session of one of the Iron Man movies as an intern just by being nice and police all the time, even to people I hated. Sitting there with Favreau and Feige as they talk about the film, and even ask those in the room what they thought and if they had suggestions.

 

[bosef982]

Haha sorry going off tangent!

What are you doing now Octoberist?

 

[Octoberist]

What are you doing now Octoberist?

I'm nothing but trouble!

 

[bosef982]

I'm nothing but trouble!

Evasive answer.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Yeah all all quiet on the western front, I'm going home now.

 

[bosef982]

Yeah all all quiet on the western front, I'm going home now.

Just be patient, dude. You'll see all the badassness soon enough. But to be honest, the meaty stuff everyone wants to see -- the real spoilery stuff, a lot of it's been shot and the remainder is gonna be shot on sound stages under rigidly strict security.

 

[Octoberist]

Yeah all all quiet on the western front, I'm going home now.

Regardless, thanks for the effort.

 

[philranger]

You know what's funny though. For all peoples perception of this or that person being a dick or this or that, I've come to realize that when I need something from someone above me in the chain, or when I need favor or a networking opportunity, one simple truth retains;

Be honest. Be polite. Be respectful.

 

[FCEEVIPER]

Regardless, thanks for the effort.

No problem.

 

[frakkingoff]

Nobody's calling out PA's just because they're PA's. I think people are calling out jerks because they're being jerks - and they happen to be PAs, which is why it's relevant to the community here. Being a PA doesn't give you license to be a jerk.

He probably works with tons of production assistants in the span of the entire months-long shoot, so why should he have to remember my name, especially when he has a 12 hour day ahead of him and a week that has been packed with 12-14 hour days, and a grueling three-month shoot ahead of him.

Because that's common courtesy and the respectful thing to do. It doesn't matter if his job is hard - if he works with you, and if you do good work, then he should take the time to learn your name during the shoot. Nobody should think they're too much of a big-shot to do otherwise.

I've had friends who have worked as production assistants on The Dark Knight, and I've heard stories about how regular bystanders had a total lack of respect for them when they were trying to preserve and maintain the integrity of what Nolan was doing. I think this is a matter of perspective here. As someone who has worked as a production assistant in the past, I have a huge amount of respect for them.

I went to the set of "The Dark Knight" many times, and met all kinds of PAs. Some were good people, and deserved respect. Others were jerks and created "situations" that didn't need to be created, for the sake of their own egos.

If you've worked on film sets of big films like these, then I don't believe it would be honest of you to claim that you never met a PA who let his position get to his head or affect the manner in which he interacted with bypassers, pedestrians, and onlookers. It's a power-trip thing, and I don't see a problem with calling them out on it.